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September 8, 2005 4:00 AM PDT

Newsmaker: Gussying up for the Opera

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Gussying up for the Opera
Jon von Tetzchner is a big guy who's not afraid of making big claims.

Case in point: Earlier this spring, von Tetzchner vowed to swim from his native Norway to the United States if the Opera 8 browser was downloaded a million times in its first four days of release.

It wasn't even close, and a few days later von Tetzchner had to jump into a "freezing Oslo fjord" to begin his dog paddle to America.

As he celebrates Opera Software's 10th anniversary, co-founder von Tetzchner is naturally ready to make some big claims about the company's next decade. Too big for his britches? Maybe so, but after all the ups and downs of the first decade of the Internet Age, von Tetzchner can lay claim to an accomplishment that's beyond the reach of most of his colleagues from the Class of 1995: His company survived.

CNET News.com recently spoke with von Tetzchner about the future of browser development, Opera's competition with Microsoft and how he plans to morph the company into more than just the "alternative" to the mainstream.

Q: As you consider Opera's future, how much of your user base is made up of people who are always going to look for the alternative because they just hate Microsoft?
Von Tetzchner: Microsoft hasn't really improved on their browser for five years. That's a long time not to update a product and especially when it's the most used product in the world.

Microsoft hasn't really improved on their browser for five years.

But that isn't anything new. What do you think will shake more peoples' thinking to adopt something that is not in the mainstream?
Von Tetzchner: When it actually comes down to governments saying, "Hey, there is a security problem," then things will change.

The next version of Internet Explorer is supposed to have enhanced security features, and Microsoft says that will take care of most of the complaints people have had with IE. Let's assume for the sake of argument that that's true. Where does that leave Opera?
Von Tetzchner: What you're describing is, I think, an unrealistic situation. I don't think Microsoft is capable--or even willing--to fix their security issues. If they do, it's great. I think it's good for the Internet and for the community that security is good in all browsers.

Now, security is not the real issue why people have been using Opera. Most of it has been because of functionality. We had things like sessions long ago, for example. I don't know about you, but I always have something like 10 or 20 Windows open at any one time, and if I have a power failure, I would like to get those Windows open at the same time--and I do because with Opera it's not a problem. If my machine hangs or there's some kind of problem, I just turn off the machine, turn it on again and I'm there.

How does the presence of alternative browsers like Mozilla and Firefox affect Opera? It seems that you'd all be fighting for that audience of people open to using alternatives to Microsoft.
Von Tetzchner: There are obviously some users who go between Opera and Mozilla. They have Opera one week, Mozilla the next week, and back to Opera....But we have a shared common goal: We would actually like to see open standards prevail.

Has it helped with sites that don't render well in Opera?
Von Tetzchner: There's been some of that. In some cases, sadly, they fix the site for Firefox and not for Opera. Obviously, as our market share grows, the problem becomes less and less. Mozilla is struggling with this. We've struggled with this.

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Opera
by Rodrigo Paines September 8, 2005 7:40 AM PDT
speed, security, simplicity. that is Opera. the members of community of Brazil are thankful
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Opera
by Rodrigo Paines September 8, 2005 7:40 AM PDT
speed, security, simplicity. that is Opera. the members of community of Brazil are thankful
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Opera
by Rodrigo Paines September 8, 2005 7:40 AM PDT
speed, security, simplicity. that is Opera. the members of community of Brazil are thankful
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Opera
by Rodrigo Paines September 8, 2005 7:40 AM PDT
speed, security, simplicity. that is Opera. the members of community of Brazil are thankful
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Opera
by Rodrigo Paines September 8, 2005 7:44 AM PDT
speed, security, simplicity. that is Opera. the members of community from Brazil are thankful
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Opera
by Rodrigo Paines September 8, 2005 7:44 AM PDT
speed, security, simplicity. that is Opera. the members of community from Brazil are thankful
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Opera
by Rodrigo Paines September 8, 2005 7:44 AM PDT
speed, security, simplicity. that is Opera. the members of community from Brazil are thankful
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Opera
by Rodrigo Paines September 8, 2005 7:44 AM PDT
speed, security, simplicity. that is Opera. the members of community from Brazil are thankful
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Why not just fix your browser
by September 8, 2005 8:18 AM PDT
Instead of expecting millions of sites to "fix" their sites to run on the little used Opera.
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bad sites
by herkamur September 8, 2005 8:37 AM PDT
By and large, from my experience, it's not the fault of the browser (be it Opera, Firefox, Safari or whatever). More often than not it's a poorly designed site or, as mentioned in the article, one that attempts to work around a bug in IE which then causes problems in other browsers.
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how exactly should opera fix their browser Raghu?
by wnurse September 8, 2005 8:38 AM PDT
Should they incorporate the same bugs that explorer has. Do you know how antiquated Explorer is?. Your comment sounds like it came from a microsoft employee or someone who didn't think the issue through.<br /><br />Explorer is not only antiquated, it uses many proprietary features. People seem to forget microsoft did not invent the internet. That they can be a johnny come lately and impose their standards on the net is fascinating and now every browser should somwehow conform to microsoft abitrary standards is even more ludicrous. Websites that blindly code for microsoft explorer are doing themselves a disservice really. They are holding themselves hostage to microsoft whims because microsoft will change explorer someday and then you'll be saying "why don't the sites change to conform to IE?".
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Lol riiiggghhhhttt
by mariusthull September 8, 2005 6:04 PM PDT
Why fix a pot hole in the road when you can just drive around it?
Why not just fix your browser
by September 8, 2005 8:18 AM PDT
Instead of expecting millions of sites to "fix" their sites to run on the little used Opera.
Reply to this comment
bad sites
by herkamur September 8, 2005 8:37 AM PDT
By and large, from my experience, it's not the fault of the browser (be it Opera, Firefox, Safari or whatever). More often than not it's a poorly designed site or, as mentioned in the article, one that attempts to work around a bug in IE which then causes problems in other browsers.
View all 2 replies
how exactly should opera fix their browser Raghu?
by wnurse September 8, 2005 8:38 AM PDT
Should they incorporate the same bugs that explorer has. Do you know how antiquated Explorer is?. Your comment sounds like it came from a microsoft employee or someone who didn't think the issue through.<br /><br />Explorer is not only antiquated, it uses many proprietary features. People seem to forget microsoft did not invent the internet. That they can be a johnny come lately and impose their standards on the net is fascinating and now every browser should somwehow conform to microsoft abitrary standards is even more ludicrous. Websites that blindly code for microsoft explorer are doing themselves a disservice really. They are holding themselves hostage to microsoft whims because microsoft will change explorer someday and then you'll be saying "why don't the sites change to conform to IE?".
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Lol riiiggghhhhttt
by mariusthull September 8, 2005 6:04 PM PDT
Why fix a pot hole in the road when you can just drive around it?
Why not just fix your browser
by September 8, 2005 8:18 AM PDT
Instead of expecting millions of sites to "fix" their sites to run on the little used Opera.
Reply to this comment
bad sites
by herkamur September 8, 2005 8:37 AM PDT
By and large, from my experience, it's not the fault of the browser (be it Opera, Firefox, Safari or whatever). More often than not it's a poorly designed site or, as mentioned in the article, one that attempts to work around a bug in IE which then causes problems in other browsers.
View all 2 replies
how exactly should opera fix their browser Raghu?
by wnurse September 8, 2005 8:38 AM PDT
Should they incorporate the same bugs that explorer has. Do you know how antiquated Explorer is?. Your comment sounds like it came from a microsoft employee or someone who didn't think the issue through.<br /><br />Explorer is not only antiquated, it uses many proprietary features. People seem to forget microsoft did not invent the internet. That they can be a johnny come lately and impose their standards on the net is fascinating and now every browser should somwehow conform to microsoft abitrary standards is even more ludicrous. Websites that blindly code for microsoft explorer are doing themselves a disservice really. They are holding themselves hostage to microsoft whims because microsoft will change explorer someday and then you'll be saying "why don't the sites change to conform to IE?".
View all 2 replies
Lol riiiggghhhhttt
by mariusthull September 8, 2005 6:04 PM PDT
Why fix a pot hole in the road when you can just drive around it?
Why not just fix your browser
by September 8, 2005 8:18 AM PDT
Instead of expecting millions of sites to "fix" their sites to run on the little used Opera.
Reply to this comment
bad sites
by herkamur September 8, 2005 8:37 AM PDT
By and large, from my experience, it's not the fault of the browser (be it Opera, Firefox, Safari or whatever). More often than not it's a poorly designed site or, as mentioned in the article, one that attempts to work around a bug in IE which then causes problems in other browsers.
View all 2 replies
how exactly should opera fix their browser Raghu?
by wnurse September 8, 2005 8:38 AM PDT
Should they incorporate the same bugs that explorer has. Do you know how antiquated Explorer is?. Your comment sounds like it came from a microsoft employee or someone who didn't think the issue through.<br /><br />Explorer is not only antiquated, it uses many proprietary features. People seem to forget microsoft did not invent the internet. That they can be a johnny come lately and impose their standards on the net is fascinating and now every browser should somwehow conform to microsoft abitrary standards is even more ludicrous. Websites that blindly code for microsoft explorer are doing themselves a disservice really. They are holding themselves hostage to microsoft whims because microsoft will change explorer someday and then you'll be saying "why don't the sites change to conform to IE?".
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Lol riiiggghhhhttt
by mariusthull September 8, 2005 6:04 PM PDT
Why fix a pot hole in the road when you can just drive around it?
Who needs it?
by Musmanno September 8, 2005 8:54 AM PDT
I use Firefox right now. Tried Opera, and found it to be a bit faster. Can't stand the ads at the top of the window though, and frankly the differences between the browsers wasn't enough to make me want to pay for it. So I uninstalled Opera and went back to Firefox. If Opera ever offers enough of an advantage to make me want to buy it, then fine, but until then I'll stick with what I have. <br /><br />(did I mention I really hated the advertisements?)
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Hehe...If you hate the ads
by rmccabe916 September 8, 2005 5:13 PM PDT
Then why didn't you get the free registration code when you could and give Opera a try without them.
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Well if you hate the ads.....
by Wolven Spectre September 8, 2005 9:23 PM PDT
If you hate the ad banner you could switch to the google text ad bar, or golly gee, try paying for it.<br /><br />As for who needs it, pretty much everybody. It has many of the features of FF and Many FF doesn't. It is the second most secure engine, behind (don't laugh... I know its hard to believe but it is true) IE's engine. However the rest of IE is set up and stripped down in ways that comprimise many of it's own engines defensive features. Opera has a sliker more configurable interface. The lists of features keep growing.<br /><br />All the features of Opera, minus voice navigation, take up less space than the featureless install of FF and is independant of all other programming libraries. It uses less system resources than anyother browser.<br /><br />In my expierience, Opera doesn't crash, something crashes Opera.
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Who needs it?
by Musmanno September 8, 2005 8:54 AM PDT
I use Firefox right now. Tried Opera, and found it to be a bit faster. Can't stand the ads at the top of the window though, and frankly the differences between the browsers wasn't enough to make me want to pay for it. So I uninstalled Opera and went back to Firefox. If Opera ever offers enough of an advantage to make me want to buy it, then fine, but until then I'll stick with what I have. <br /><br />(did I mention I really hated the advertisements?)
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Hehe...If you hate the ads
by rmccabe916 September 8, 2005 5:13 PM PDT
Then why didn't you get the free registration code when you could and give Opera a try without them.
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Well if you hate the ads.....
by Wolven Spectre September 8, 2005 9:23 PM PDT
If you hate the ad banner you could switch to the google text ad bar, or golly gee, try paying for it.<br /><br />As for who needs it, pretty much everybody. It has many of the features of FF and Many FF doesn't. It is the second most secure engine, behind (don't laugh... I know its hard to believe but it is true) IE's engine. However the rest of IE is set up and stripped down in ways that comprimise many of it's own engines defensive features. Opera has a sliker more configurable interface. The lists of features keep growing.<br /><br />All the features of Opera, minus voice navigation, take up less space than the featureless install of FF and is independant of all other programming libraries. It uses less system resources than anyother browser.<br /><br />In my expierience, Opera doesn't crash, something crashes Opera.
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Who needs it?
by Musmanno September 8, 2005 8:54 AM PDT
I use Firefox right now. Tried Opera, and found it to be a bit faster. Can't stand the ads at the top of the window though, and frankly the differences between the browsers wasn't enough to make me want to pay for it. So I uninstalled Opera and went back to Firefox. If Opera ever offers enough of an advantage to make me want to buy it, then fine, but until then I'll stick with what I have. <br /><br />(did I mention I really hated the advertisements?)
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Hehe...If you hate the ads
by rmccabe916 September 8, 2005 5:13 PM PDT
Then why didn't you get the free registration code when you could and give Opera a try without them.
View reply
Well if you hate the ads.....
by Wolven Spectre September 8, 2005 9:23 PM PDT
If you hate the ad banner you could switch to the google text ad bar, or golly gee, try paying for it.<br /><br />As for who needs it, pretty much everybody. It has many of the features of FF and Many FF doesn't. It is the second most secure engine, behind (don't laugh... I know its hard to believe but it is true) IE's engine. However the rest of IE is set up and stripped down in ways that comprimise many of it's own engines defensive features. Opera has a sliker more configurable interface. The lists of features keep growing.<br /><br />All the features of Opera, minus voice navigation, take up less space than the featureless install of FF and is independant of all other programming libraries. It uses less system resources than anyother browser.<br /><br />In my expierience, Opera doesn't crash, something crashes Opera.
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Who needs it?
by Musmanno September 8, 2005 8:54 AM PDT
I use Firefox right now. Tried Opera, and found it to be a bit faster. Can't stand the ads at the top of the window though, and frankly the differences between the browsers wasn't enough to make me want to pay for it. So I uninstalled Opera and went back to Firefox. If Opera ever offers enough of an advantage to make me want to buy it, then fine, but until then I'll stick with what I have. <br /><br />(did I mention I really hated the advertisements?)
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Hehe...If you hate the ads
by rmccabe916 September 8, 2005 5:13 PM PDT
Then why didn't you get the free registration code when you could and give Opera a try without them.
View reply
Well if you hate the ads.....
by Wolven Spectre September 8, 2005 9:23 PM PDT
If you hate the ad banner you could switch to the google text ad bar, or golly gee, try paying for it.<br /><br />As for who needs it, pretty much everybody. It has many of the features of FF and Many FF doesn't. It is the second most secure engine, behind (don't laugh... I know its hard to believe but it is true) IE's engine. However the rest of IE is set up and stripped down in ways that comprimise many of it's own engines defensive features. Opera has a sliker more configurable interface. The lists of features keep growing.<br /><br />All the features of Opera, minus voice navigation, take up less space than the featureless install of FF and is independant of all other programming libraries. It uses less system resources than anyother browser.<br /><br />In my expierience, Opera doesn't crash, something crashes Opera.
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Not sure I understand their business model
by Mister Winky September 8, 2005 9:41 AM PDT
Opera claims substantial year to year growth, but it still doesn't add up to much total market share. With Firefox in the picture, I don't see why people would pay for Opera unless it has one or two *killer app* features that Firefox (or IE7) doesn't. And even then, it's just a matter of time before the others catch up. <br /><br />The interviewee conventiently ducked the first question about whether their market is driven by anti-MS users. With Firefox available for free, it seems Opera is the ultimate non-conformist's browser. You can always get the fringe 5% to buy your product on the sake of different or anti-MS alone, but beyond that, it's a dicey proposition for a successful long-term business.<br /><br />Standards can be good, but the more standard-based web sites and web browsers become, the more commoditized the market for browsers becomes. If, a few years from now, 99% of the web works equally well in Firefox and Opera on account of greater standards adoption, who would buy Opera when Firefox is free and just as good?<br /><br />Lastly, to those who bash IE for its lack of a standards approach, try using IE + Outlook Web Access from Exchange 2003. It's a fairly incredible interface (allows right click context menus, drag and drop mail between panes and folders, etc.), it's fast as hell (no JVM overhead) and it simply works. Guaranteed application functionality and interoperability like this is why a lot of companies standardize on IE, even if it's not always the best solution for all users.<br /><br />Has any major company standardized on Opera?<br /><br />-Mister Winky
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Well, Opera IS better
by September 8, 2005 10:42 AM PDT
Opera is a superior browser to Firefox, simply because its faster and all of its features are integrated. With Firefox I have to install several plugins to get the feature-set I'm looking for, and those plugins generally work less well than Operas already implemented features. And when a new Firefox version is released it sometimes breaks existing plugins and I have to hunt down new ones. It's a really messy system. Besides - Opera with all the features included is a smaller download than plain Firefox, another reason Opera simply is superior. <br /><br />I also dont have to spend a lot of time tweaking Opera, as opposed to Firefox. Opera is much more efficient in its handling of, well, everything, and is well worth the 30$ i paid for it. (Even tough how anyone can find the ads in the free version intrusive is beyond me - it is a small text add at the top of the browser for pete's sake!)<br /><br />Besides that Opera offers integrated email-app and a irc client, which basically means I just need one app for all my web needs. <br /><br />Having used both Firefox and Opera extensively I really can't see how anyone can find Firefox to be a better, or even just as good browser - it simply is inferior. The only thing Firefox has going for it is a slight advantage in web site compatability, but from Opera 8 onwards I hardly ever find pages that wont work properly.
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As long as you stay home, you're safe?
by Remo_Williams September 8, 2005 10:57 AM PDT
You don't understand the business model from the interview, perhaps, but it's a public company, so they aren't hiding earnings. They're there, and the company is doing well.<br /><br />As for your example of an MS-only solution that's fast... on what hardware? And operating system? Believe it or not, the world doesn't run WinXP with 1Gb of Ram available on the desktop. The MS-only world is slowly shrinking, and when Linux or some other OS model comes to fore, Opera and Firefox will be there... and IE won't.<br /><br />Good luck with that Exchange Server, too.<br /><br />-R
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You've got it.
by David Arbogast September 8, 2005 11:57 AM PDT
Its a silly article... the Opera guy has learned to duck Microsoft? How? By answering every question with a wordy "MS Sucks" statement, and maintaining market share so small that Microsoft doesn't consider you a threat.
Tsc .. tsc..
by Rodrigo Paines April 25, 2008 12:00 PM PDT
tsc.. tsc ..ms-users ...
Not sure I understand their business model
by Mister Winky September 8, 2005 9:41 AM PDT
Opera claims substantial year to year growth, but it still doesn't add up to much total market share. With Firefox in the picture, I don't see why people would pay for Opera unless it has one or two *killer app* features that Firefox (or IE7) doesn't. And even then, it's just a matter of time before the others catch up. <br /><br />The interviewee conventiently ducked the first question about whether their market is driven by anti-MS users. With Firefox available for free, it seems Opera is the ultimate non-conformist's browser. You can always get the fringe 5% to buy your product on the sake of different or anti-MS alone, but beyond that, it's a dicey proposition for a successful long-term business.<br /><br />Standards can be good, but the more standard-based web sites and web browsers become, the more commoditized the market for browsers becomes. If, a few years from now, 99% of the web works equally well in Firefox and Opera on account of greater standards adoption, who would buy Opera when Firefox is free and just as good?<br /><br />Lastly, to those who bash IE for its lack of a standards approach, try using IE + Outlook Web Access from Exchange 2003. It's a fairly incredible interface (allows right click context menus, drag and drop mail between panes and folders, etc.), it's fast as hell (no JVM overhead) and it simply works. Guaranteed application functionality and interoperability like this is why a lot of companies standardize on IE, even if it's not always the best solution for all users.<br /><br />Has any major company standardized on Opera?<br /><br />-Mister Winky
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Well, Opera IS better
by September 8, 2005 10:42 AM PDT
Opera is a superior browser to Firefox, simply because its faster and all of its features are integrated. With Firefox I have to install several plugins to get the feature-set I'm looking for, and those plugins generally work less well than Operas already implemented features. And when a new Firefox version is released it sometimes breaks existing plugins and I have to hunt down new ones. It's a really messy system. Besides - Opera with all the features included is a smaller download than plain Firefox, another reason Opera simply is superior. <br /><br />I also dont have to spend a lot of time tweaking Opera, as opposed to Firefox. Opera is much more efficient in its handling of, well, everything, and is well worth the 30$ i paid for it. (Even tough how anyone can find the ads in the free version intrusive is beyond me - it is a small text add at the top of the browser for pete's sake!)<br /><br />Besides that Opera offers integrated email-app and a irc client, which basically means I just need one app for all my web needs. <br /><br />Having used both Firefox and Opera extensively I really can't see how anyone can find Firefox to be a better, or even just as good browser - it simply is inferior. The only thing Firefox has going for it is a slight advantage in web site compatability, but from Opera 8 onwards I hardly ever find pages that wont work properly.
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Tsc .. tsc..
by Rodrigo Paines September 8, 2005 11:41 AM PDT
tsc.. tsc ..ms-users ...
You've got it.
by David Arbogast September 8, 2005 11:57 AM PDT
Its a silly article... the Opera guy has learned to duck Microsoft? How? By answering every question with a wordy "MS Sucks" statement, and maintaining market share so small that Microsoft doesn't consider you a threat.
As long as you stay home, you're safe?
by Remo_Williams April 27, 2008 10:00 PM PDT
You don't understand the business model from the interview, perhaps, but it's a public company, so they aren't hiding earnings. They're there, and the company is doing well.<br /><br />As for your example of an MS-only solution that's fast... on what hardware? And operating system? Believe it or not, the world doesn't run WinXP with 1Gb of Ram available on the desktop. The MS-only world is slowly shrinking, and when Linux or some other OS model comes to fore, Opera and Firefox will be there... and IE won't.<br /><br />Good luck with that Exchange Server, too.<br /><br />-R
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Not sure I understand their business model
by Mister Winky September 8, 2005 9:41 AM PDT
Opera claims substantial year to year growth, but it still doesn't add up to much total market share. With Firefox in the picture, I don't see why people would pay for Opera unless it has one or two *killer app* features that Firefox (or IE7) doesn't. And even then, it's just a matter of time before the others catch up. <br /><br />The interviewee conventiently ducked the first question about whether their market is driven by anti-MS users. With Firefox available for free, it seems Opera is the ultimate non-conformist's browser. You can always get the fringe 5% to buy your product on the sake of different or anti-MS alone, but beyond that, it's a dicey proposition for a successful long-term business.<br /><br />Standards can be good, but the more standard-based web sites and web browsers become, the more commoditized the market for browsers becomes. If, a few years from now, 99% of the web works equally well in Firefox and Opera on account of greater standards adoption, who would buy Opera when Firefox is free and just as good?<br /><br />Lastly, to those who bash IE for its lack of a standards approach, try using IE + Outlook Web Access from Exchange 2003. It's a fairly incredible interface (allows right click context menus, drag and drop mail between panes and folders, etc.), it's fast as hell (no JVM overhead) and it simply works. Guaranteed application functionality and interoperability like this is why a lot of companies standardize on IE, even if it's not always the best solution for all users.<br /><br />Has any major company standardized on Opera?<br /><br />-Mister Winky
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Well, Opera IS better
by September 8, 2005 10:42 AM PDT
Opera is a superior browser to Firefox, simply because its faster and all of its features are integrated. With Firefox I have to install several plugins to get the feature-set I'm looking for, and those plugins generally work less well than Operas already implemented features. And when a new Firefox version is released it sometimes breaks existing plugins and I have to hunt down new ones. It's a really messy system. Besides - Opera with all the features included is a smaller download than plain Firefox, another reason Opera simply is superior. <br /><br />I also dont have to spend a lot of time tweaking Opera, as opposed to Firefox. Opera is much more efficient in its handling of, well, everything, and is well worth the 30$ i paid for it. (Even tough how anyone can find the ads in the free version intrusive is beyond me - it is a small text add at the top of the browser for pete's sake!)<br /><br />Besides that Opera offers integrated email-app and a irc client, which basically means I just need one app for all my web needs. <br /><br />Having used both Firefox and Opera extensively I really can't see how anyone can find Firefox to be a better, or even just as good browser - it simply is inferior. The only thing Firefox has going for it is a slight advantage in web site compatability, but from Opera 8 onwards I hardly ever find pages that wont work properly.
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As long as you stay home, you're safe?
by Remo_Williams September 8, 2005 10:57 AM PDT
You don't understand the business model from the interview, perhaps, but it's a public company, so they aren't hiding earnings. They're there, and the company is doing well.<br /><br />As for your example of an MS-only solution that's fast... on what hardware? And operating system? Believe it or not, the world doesn't run WinXP with 1Gb of Ram available on the desktop. The MS-only world is slowly shrinking, and when Linux or some other OS model comes to fore, Opera and Firefox will be there... and IE won't.<br /><br />Good luck with that Exchange Server, too.<br /><br />-R
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Tsc .. tsc..
by Rodrigo Paines September 8, 2005 11:41 AM PDT
tsc.. tsc ..ms-users ...
You've got it.
by David Arbogast September 8, 2005 11:57 AM PDT
Its a silly article... the Opera guy has learned to duck Microsoft? How? By answering every question with a wordy "MS Sucks" statement, and maintaining market share so small that Microsoft doesn't consider you a threat.
Not sure I understand their business model
by Mister Winky September 8, 2005 9:41 AM PDT
Opera claims substantial year to year growth, but it still doesn't add up to much total market share. With Firefox in the picture, I don't see why people would pay for Opera unless it has one or two *killer app* features that Firefox (or IE7) doesn't. And even then, it's just a matter of time before the others catch up. <br /><br />The interviewee conventiently ducked the first question about whether their market is driven by anti-MS users. With Firefox available for free, it seems Opera is the ultimate non-conformist's browser. You can always get the fringe 5% to buy your product on the sake of different or anti-MS alone, but beyond that, it's a dicey proposition for a successful long-term business.<br /><br />Standards can be good, but the more standard-based web sites and web browsers become, the more commoditized the market for browsers becomes. If, a few years from now, 99% of the web works equally well in Firefox and Opera on account of greater standards adoption, who would buy Opera when Firefox is free and just as good?<br /><br />Lastly, to those who bash IE for its lack of a standards approach, try using IE + Outlook Web Access from Exchange 2003. It's a fairly incredible interface (allows right click context menus, drag and drop mail between panes and folders, etc.), it's fast as hell (no JVM overhead) and it simply works. Guaranteed application functionality and interoperability like this is why a lot of companies standardize on IE, even if it's not always the best solution for all users.<br /><br />Has any major company standardized on Opera?<br /><br />-Mister Winky
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Well, Opera IS better
by September 8, 2005 10:42 AM PDT
Opera is a superior browser to Firefox, simply because its faster and all of its features are integrated. With Firefox I have to install several plugins to get the feature-set I'm looking for, and those plugins generally work less well than Operas already implemented features. And when a new Firefox version is released it sometimes breaks existing plugins and I have to hunt down new ones. It's a really messy system. Besides - Opera with all the features included is a smaller download than plain Firefox, another reason Opera simply is superior. <br /><br />I also dont have to spend a lot of time tweaking Opera, as opposed to Firefox. Opera is much more efficient in its handling of, well, everything, and is well worth the 30$ i paid for it. (Even tough how anyone can find the ads in the free version intrusive is beyond me - it is a small text add at the top of the browser for pete's sake!)<br /><br />Besides that Opera offers integrated email-app and a irc client, which basically means I just need one app for all my web needs. <br /><br />Having used both Firefox and Opera extensively I really can't see how anyone can find Firefox to be a better, or even just as good browser - it simply is inferior. The only thing Firefox has going for it is a slight advantage in web site compatability, but from Opera 8 onwards I hardly ever find pages that wont work properly.
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As long as you stay home, you're safe?
by Remo_Williams September 8, 2005 10:57 AM PDT
You don't understand the business model from the interview, perhaps, but it's a public company, so they aren't hiding earnings. They're there, and the company is doing well.<br /><br />As for your example of an MS-only solution that's fast... on what hardware? And operating system? Believe it or not, the world doesn't run WinXP with 1Gb of Ram available on the desktop. The MS-only world is slowly shrinking, and when Linux or some other OS model comes to fore, Opera and Firefox will be there... and IE won't.<br /><br />Good luck with that Exchange Server, too.<br /><br />-R
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Tsc .. tsc..
by Rodrigo Paines September 8, 2005 11:41 AM PDT
tsc.. tsc ..ms-users ...
You've got it.
by David Arbogast September 8, 2005 11:57 AM PDT
Its a silly article... the Opera guy has learned to duck Microsoft? How? By answering every question with a wordy "MS Sucks" statement, and maintaining market share so small that Microsoft doesn't consider you a threat.
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