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Perspective: Growing pains at Google?

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fiasco in 1994, when a college professor discovered a floating point chip errata in the Pentium. It took several days before Intel realized customers were really outraged by the company's dismissive silence and finally took action.

But the damage was done, and Intel had to work hard to repair its reputation.

Thursday's briefing was a pure PR snow job. When it comes to explaining what's really going on at Google, these guys have a lot to learn.

More recently, Google fell into a tiff with French critics of the company's library digitization plans. The fear is that Google's plan would further stamp Anglo domination on global culture by giving short shrift to non-English writing. This is a touchy issue that comes during a delicate juncture in Franco-American relations. The company says Brin recently flew across the Atlantic to meet with French officials. The issue continues to simmer, but let's see how Google handles the pressure.

From a reporter's vantage point, I can tell you that Microsoft has forgotten more about effective PR than Google's ever learned.

To wit: Early Thursday, about a hundred or so reporters got bused in by Google for a full-day briefing. I always treat these orchestrated events with great suspicion, but you have to turn up--just in case. Unfortunately, the best I can say about this gabfest is that lunch was swell.

This was a pure PR snow job, where the assembled scribes were forced to suffer through a mind-numbing procession of content-free presentations for the better part of a day. When it comes to explaining what's really going on at Google, these guys have a lot to learn. I'm not talking about the kissy magazine cover stories PR regularly places. I'm talking about getting the goods.

Microsoft is far savvier about brainwashing the Fourth Estate. And their execs--at least the smarter ones like Steve Ballmer--will occasionally level with us about what's not working.

Chalk it up then to growing pains. One Google insider privately told me the higher-ups don't believe in sharing information they aren't required to by law (especially when it comes to a snoopy press). They're wrong about playing it so close to the vest, but I understand why. Google's on a roll now, but I guarantee that mind-set will get an update after the company's first lousy quarterly report hits the wire.

But these are mere quibbles, and people will forgive Google a lot because they love the story. There is a natural frisson surrounding the company, an upstart that has come so far, so fast. This is indeed an interesting company--arguably the best story to come out of Silicon Valley in the last decade.

How management performs will determine whether Google remains Silicon Valley's best story a decade hence.

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Why is it..........
by takingitdownanotch May 20, 2005 7:17 AM PDT
Why is it that everything Google does makes the front page? Yahoo and Microsoft are treated like they are taking a back seat to Google in the innovation department. Yahoo already has a configurable Homepage which allows you to use RSS feeds including a configurable news page. Microsoft also has a configurable homepage that has the "oh so flashy" drag and drop functionality. Yahoo has a IM utility second to none that includes VOIP and a Toolbar which includes a popup blocker and spyware utility. They are all about even in the desktop search arena and I don't know if you've checked lately, but I believe Yahoo search results are every bit as good as Googles. If you ask me, Google is barely keeping pace. What took so long to update their toolbar? I think they have generated a wonderful business and clearly, with all the competition, the consumers are the real winners here, but my word, if I see another biased article from yet another trend following internet rag, I'm gonna puke.
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Easy to explain.
by katamari May 21, 2005 1:45 PM PDT
Google == Yahoo v2.0

Go look at Yahoo's stock prices during the first 3-4 years of their IPO existance. You'll see identical behaviours to that of Google. Outrageous stock prices for absolutely **no reason what-so-ever**.

The reality of the situation is, people still have dollar signs in their eyes, despite the "dot-com bubble" having burst. I expect in then next 15 years we'll see similar behaviour -- Google's a fantastic stepping stone for history to repeat itself...
Why is it..........
by takingitdownanotch May 20, 2005 7:17 AM PDT
Why is it that everything Google does makes the front page? Yahoo and Microsoft are treated like they are taking a back seat to Google in the innovation department. Yahoo already has a configurable Homepage which allows you to use RSS feeds including a configurable news page. Microsoft also has a configurable homepage that has the "oh so flashy" drag and drop functionality. Yahoo has a IM utility second to none that includes VOIP and a Toolbar which includes a popup blocker and spyware utility. They are all about even in the desktop search arena and I don't know if you've checked lately, but I believe Yahoo search results are every bit as good as Googles. If you ask me, Google is barely keeping pace. What took so long to update their toolbar? I think they have generated a wonderful business and clearly, with all the competition, the consumers are the real winners here, but my word, if I see another biased article from yet another trend following internet rag, I'm gonna puke.
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Easy to explain.
by katamari May 21, 2005 1:45 PM PDT
Google == Yahoo v2.0

Go look at Yahoo's stock prices during the first 3-4 years of their IPO existance. You'll see identical behaviours to that of Google. Outrageous stock prices for absolutely **no reason what-so-ever**.

The reality of the situation is, people still have dollar signs in their eyes, despite the "dot-com bubble" having burst. I expect in then next 15 years we'll see similar behaviour -- Google's a fantastic stepping stone for history to repeat itself...
yahoo v MS v google
by charlie cooper May 20, 2005 7:21 AM PDT
First of all, I do hope you don't puke. that would mess up an otherwise wonderful friday .:) More seriously, I do think we give MS & Yahoo their due. But Google's the more interesting story for now -- especially considering how far and how fast they've come. Don't make the mistake and simply dismiss what they're doing as catch-up. See it within the context of an increasingly powerful tech arsenal they're putting together.
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coverage and hype
by Dave_Newton May 20, 2005 8:24 AM PDT
I agree Google is the more interesting story, but I'm not sure why. Nauseous Man has a point or three. It's a who's-hot/not question. Buzz is a human-being product, thus not subject to engineering. I remember when Yahoo! was the IT! company. And I don't mean I.T. These are all amazing companies, and the past twenty years has been stupifyingly fun to watch. But...if Google's so bad at PR, why are they winning the PR battle in spite of their gaffes? Maybe it's their cluelessness itself that gives them this unsophisticated air, which is, well, charming. Only when they bus in the stuff and break out the PowerPoints do they totally strike out. Charming.
sure, but Google is still miles behind its competitors
by May 20, 2005 8:30 AM PDT
Talk to folks at Delphes, Cristal Semantics, Clusty, MSN, Yahoo, and so many other firms. Google is probably the least relevant search engine on the market today. Yet, as Bill Gates points out with a tint of sarcasm, Google is the place to be. And the aura is so great that people just worship on and on.
Are applications next at Google and...
by ordaj May 20, 2005 10:16 AM PDT
...should Microsoft be scared? I mean, how hard (and useful) would it be to have hosted apps and files at Google? They don't need to have whiz-bang functionality (90% of the people use 10% of the functionality of most apps or something like that).

An online word processor, spreadhseet app, etc., and who needs MS?

Is this where they're going?
yahoo v MS v google
by charlie cooper May 20, 2005 7:21 AM PDT
First of all, I do hope you don't puke. that would mess up an otherwise wonderful friday .:) More seriously, I do think we give MS & Yahoo their due. But Google's the more interesting story for now -- especially considering how far and how fast they've come. Don't make the mistake and simply dismiss what they're doing as catch-up. See it within the context of an increasingly powerful tech arsenal they're putting together.
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coverage and hype
by Dave_Newton May 20, 2005 8:24 AM PDT
I agree Google is the more interesting story, but I'm not sure why. Nauseous Man has a point or three. It's a who's-hot/not question. Buzz is a human-being product, thus not subject to engineering. I remember when Yahoo! was the IT! company. And I don't mean I.T. These are all amazing companies, and the past twenty years has been stupifyingly fun to watch. But...if Google's so bad at PR, why are they winning the PR battle in spite of their gaffes? Maybe it's their cluelessness itself that gives them this unsophisticated air, which is, well, charming. Only when they bus in the stuff and break out the PowerPoints do they totally strike out. Charming.
sure, but Google is still miles behind its competitors
by May 20, 2005 8:30 AM PDT
Talk to folks at Delphes, Cristal Semantics, Clusty, MSN, Yahoo, and so many other firms. Google is probably the least relevant search engine on the market today. Yet, as Bill Gates points out with a tint of sarcasm, Google is the place to be. And the aura is so great that people just worship on and on.
Are applications next at Google and...
by ordaj May 20, 2005 10:16 AM PDT
...should Microsoft be scared? I mean, how hard (and useful) would it be to have hosted apps and files at Google? They don't need to have whiz-bang functionality (90% of the people use 10% of the functionality of most apps or something like that).

An online word processor, spreadhseet app, etc., and who needs MS?

Is this where they're going?
So many disagreement with the article.
by Remo_Williams May 20, 2005 8:22 AM PDT
1) Google playing it close to the vest is not a mistake. It's a choice, and not a bad one for them, just for reporters trying to dig up leads. Too bad for them, really. Get back to working instead of being spoon-fed your stories.

2) Google didn't misplay the GMail controversy, either. In case you missed it, GMail is free. If you don't like the terms, walking is easy. Complaining about it is beyond stupid, it's insulting.

Contrast this with Ticketmaster: if you buy tickets from Ticketmaster via web, you are FORCED to accept spam from them or their partners. It says so right before you click. So, you either call into Ticketmaster by phone, or click through. Which deserves more opprobrium?

3) Kowtowing to the French -- on any point, at any level -- is a mistake. Their methods to preserve their language at all costs makes for head-shaking entertainment at least, but prove serious impediments to business at worst. I don't see the French market for anything being worth the trouble of meeting them even halfway.

France should incubate their own Internet portals if they care so much. That is, if they can find the time to tear themselves away from indolent whining.

-Remo
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Not so simple...
by Mario Nogueira May 21, 2005 2:29 PM PDT
"3) Kowtowing to the French -- on any point, at any level -- is a mistake. Their methods to preserve their language at all costs makes for head-shaking entertainment at least, but prove serious impediments to business at worst. I don't see the French market for anything being worth the trouble of meeting them even halfway.

France should incubate their own Internet portals if they care so much. That is, if they can find the time to tear themselves away from indolent whining."

Not everything in the world comes down to business. Preserving their language and their culture is a worthy goal.

It's the kind of worry that made them the ones who brought up the concept of democracy after Middle Age all the way back from ancient Greece, during the French Revolution, upon which ideals the whole idea of declaring independence from England was based, not to mention the principles of our Constitution.

So, you see, there are other means by which you can have a positive impact on people's lives other than business.

As for Google, an american public company, the fact that they care about France means that their market is not as irrelevant as you stated either, no matter how "don't be evil" Google gets. And they are Google, succesfull corporation, and you are... who?

Finally, France didn't complain about not having French equivalents to Google. They just don't think it's fair that american companies, with global reach throughj the web, jeopardize or insulate other countries cultures.
So many disagreement with the article.
by Remo_Williams May 20, 2005 8:22 AM PDT
1) Google playing it close to the vest is not a mistake. It's a choice, and not a bad one for them, just for reporters trying to dig up leads. Too bad for them, really. Get back to working instead of being spoon-fed your stories.

2) Google didn't misplay the GMail controversy, either. In case you missed it, GMail is free. If you don't like the terms, walking is easy. Complaining about it is beyond stupid, it's insulting.

Contrast this with Ticketmaster: if you buy tickets from Ticketmaster via web, you are FORCED to accept spam from them or their partners. It says so right before you click. So, you either call into Ticketmaster by phone, or click through. Which deserves more opprobrium?

3) Kowtowing to the French -- on any point, at any level -- is a mistake. Their methods to preserve their language at all costs makes for head-shaking entertainment at least, but prove serious impediments to business at worst. I don't see the French market for anything being worth the trouble of meeting them even halfway.

France should incubate their own Internet portals if they care so much. That is, if they can find the time to tear themselves away from indolent whining.

-Remo
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Not so simple...
by Mario Nogueira May 21, 2005 2:29 PM PDT
"3) Kowtowing to the French -- on any point, at any level -- is a mistake. Their methods to preserve their language at all costs makes for head-shaking entertainment at least, but prove serious impediments to business at worst. I don't see the French market for anything being worth the trouble of meeting them even halfway.

France should incubate their own Internet portals if they care so much. That is, if they can find the time to tear themselves away from indolent whining."

Not everything in the world comes down to business. Preserving their language and their culture is a worthy goal.

It's the kind of worry that made them the ones who brought up the concept of democracy after Middle Age all the way back from ancient Greece, during the French Revolution, upon which ideals the whole idea of declaring independence from England was based, not to mention the principles of our Constitution.

So, you see, there are other means by which you can have a positive impact on people's lives other than business.

As for Google, an american public company, the fact that they care about France means that their market is not as irrelevant as you stated either, no matter how "don't be evil" Google gets. And they are Google, succesfull corporation, and you are... who?

Finally, France didn't complain about not having French equivalents to Google. They just don't think it's fair that american companies, with global reach throughj the web, jeopardize or insulate other countries cultures.
Isn't this the same guy who criticized GMAIL?
by May 20, 2005 6:28 PM PDT
Yup, I'm sure it is.
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Isn't this the same guy who criticized GMAIL?
by May 20, 2005 6:28 PM PDT
Yup, I'm sure it is.
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this article = empty of facts
by 202567676114204908075970046337 May 23, 2005 7:10 AM PDT
The author trumps up non-events re: Gmail and French libraries, and concludes "Google has growing pains" -- please. At the end of the day, companies are judged by the product released (e.g. Google Maps) and what utility does a company have to talk about their product before it's ready...

Whatever.
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this article = empty of facts
by 202567676114204908075970046337 May 23, 2005 7:10 AM PDT
The author trumps up non-events re: Gmail and French libraries, and concludes "Google has growing pains" -- please. At the end of the day, companies are judged by the product released (e.g. Google Maps) and what utility does a company have to talk about their product before it's ready...

Whatever.
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Gmail Doesn't Spy
by elyk53 May 24, 2005 4:35 PM PDT
Gmail's email scanning is nothing new. Almost every ISP or email provider, including yahoo, scans your email as part of spam filtering. The only difference is how it's used. It makes no difference as far as privacy is concerned whether the scanning is used to block spam or display contextual advertisements. It's still scanning, and in both cases no information is stored. I don't get why people are making such a big deal out of this. I (and many other people) prefer relevant text ads to huge, irrelavent banners like yahoo and msn.
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Gmail Doesn't Spy
by elyk53 May 24, 2005 4:35 PM PDT
Gmail's email scanning is nothing new. Almost every ISP or email provider, including yahoo, scans your email as part of spam filtering. The only difference is how it's used. It makes no difference as far as privacy is concerned whether the scanning is used to block spam or display contextual advertisements. It's still scanning, and in both cases no information is stored. I don't get why people are making such a big deal out of this. I (and many other people) prefer relevant text ads to huge, irrelavent banners like yahoo and msn.
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Actually, I like Gmail...
by takingitdownanotch May 31, 2005 8:16 PM PDT
Actually I think Google has done a fine job with Gmail. The message tags are a fabulously simple innovation.
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Actually, I like Gmail...
by takingitdownanotch May 31, 2005 8:16 PM PDT
Actually I think Google has done a fine job with Gmail. The message tags are a fabulously simple innovation.
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