Grassroots computing languages hit the big time

Once considered simple toys by serious programmers, scripting languages are becoming first-class citizens in the world of corporate software development.

Database giant Oracle is expected to announce on Monday a partnership to make it easier for businesses to create custom applications for its products using PHP tools from a company called Zend Technologies. PHP is an open-source scripting language used to build Web pages.

The upped commitment to PHP from Oracle is the latest of several moves by large software vendors, including IBM, Sun Microsystems and Microsoft, to capitalize on the growing popularity of scripting, or "dynamic" languages.

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What's new:
Scripting languages have not been widely used for corporate development, but businesses and IT pros are now looking to these simple tools to streamline the creation of custom in-house programs and thus avoid late or overbudget applications.

Bottom line:
Oracle, IBM, Microsoft and others have taken note. These big software makers hope to tap into the growing interest in scripting and also broaden their customer base by attracting smaller companies--which may not have IT departments well-versed in Java, C++ and other relatively complex programming languages typically used to build custom business applications.

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Scripting languages have been used to build millions of applications on the Web, but in general have not been adopted widely by corporate developers. But more and more businesses and IT professionals are looking to these languages as a way to simplify and speed the creation of custom in-house programs, thus avoiding the now all-too-common logjam of late or overbudget applications.

"Scripting (languages are) just getting more popular and powerful simply because they're easy to use," said Tim Huckaby, CEO of consulting firm and Microsoft partner InterKnowlogy. "It's all about time to market and money, not about how elegant it is underneath."

By teaming with Zend, Oracle can tap into the growing interest in PHP and encourage use of its namesake database. Currently, more than 20 percent of Zend customers use Oracle databases, according to Pamela Roussos, vice president of marketing at Zend.

Oracle could also broaden its customer base by attracting smaller companies, which don't necessarily have high-powered IT departments well-versed in the type of programming languages typically used to build custom large-scale business applications. Java, C, C++ and Visual Basic are relatively complex. In contrast, scripting languages can be wielded by people without a computer science degree or a lot of training.

Oracle's own line of development tools and the associated "middleware" to run custom business applications are based on Java. Similarly, IBM, BEA Systems, Sun and others continue to invest in Java standards. Microsoft tools, meanwhile, are based on its proprietary .Net software.

Zend takes the open-source PHP software and builds development tools specifically aimed at corporate developers.

Bulking up
PHP is one of several scripting languages designed for rapidly building Web applications that's getting more attention from industry

Scripting: what about REXX?

Scripting languages seem to be a new idea - however they do exist for several decades. One of the widely used languages is REXX, invented by the IBM fellow Mike Cowlishaw more than 25 years ago. REXX (and the open source variants like REGINA) were orginally used on the mainframe but do exist now on every platform you can think of. REXX is used as as scripting language AND also as a programming language. Currently there are "traditional" (i.e. 3GL) and OO versions available. You can find more about REXX on the REXXLA homepage :www.rexxla.org

Hobbyists?

"Traditionally, such languages have been used by hobbyists to glue
together pages for simple Web sites." What a bizarre statement --
PHP has been used to create incredibly complex web applications
for a number of years.

and Coldfusion?

Though it still doesn't get a whole lot of respect in the industry... CF should be considered as well.

Since the release of BlueDragon (from New Atlanta software) the expensive server license is no longer needed. It gets the job done.

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Yahoo is a home-grown site, did you know that?

The write of this story hasn't seen the football since the game started. Jeeeezus.

"Hobbyists"? You mean like Yahoo, who use PHP as a primary development platform? How about the thousands of large companies (like mine, which is a Fortune 50 company) using PHP as a primary develpment platform for critical enterprise development?

There are about a dozen PHP programmers on our team here and they all have 6+ years of enterprise development experience, and some have 15+. Are they the "non-programmers" you were talking about?

Oh wait, I understand the logic now. Since Oracle is getting into the PHP arena its because nobody is using it for serious development. Oracle just *loves* the low-end.

"Java is overkill"? No, Java is just 3-5x SLOWER than PHP for most web application tasks. Can anybody name a major Internet website using Java as their platform? Didn't think so. PHP on the other hand has shown it can scale to the largest web sites in the world.

I'm really losing faith in News.com here. Not only did they not research this story correctly, but it is simply self-contradictory. If all of the things they said about PHP were true, IBM and Oracle wouldn't be taking them seriously. The fact is that its a viable alternative to Java for *any* project, and Java is a political hot potato because Sun still owns it.