October 14, 2005 1:36 PM PDT

Global warming to bring heavier rains, snow

In the forecast, more rain and snow.

Rising temperatures in the world's atmosphere and oceans will lead to more intense storms as the century progresses, according to a new report from the National Center for Atmospheric Research.

Evaporation increases when the surface temperature of the ocean rises and warmer air can hold more moisture. When this soggier-than-normal air moves over land, it results in storms wetter and more intense than those experienced in the past.

The greatest changes will occur over land in the tropics, according to the study, which was released Thursday. Heavier rain or snow, however, will also fall in northwestern and northeastern North America, northern Europe, northern and eastern Asia, southwestern Australia, and parts of South America during the current century.

"The models show most areas around the world will experience more intense precipitation for a given storm during this century," lead author Gerald Meehl said in a statement. "Information on which areas will be most affected could help communities to better manage water resources and anticipate possible flooding."

The Mediterranean and the southwestern U.S., meanwhile, will experience a different pattern. Storms will likely become wetter, particularly in the fall and winter, but dry spells may stretch for longer in the warmer months. A picture of how this pattern might develop was seen in Europe this year: While Germany endured unprecedented floods, Spain and Portugal imposed water rationing because of a lengthy drought.

Researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in April released a report predicting that hurricanes would become more intense over the coming century. It became an oft-cited study after Hurricane Katrina hit.

Climate change has become a hot-button issue for scientists, politicians and the general public. The scientific community now generally agrees that global warming is in fact happening, and most of the future scenarios aren't pretty.

Rising sea levels could lead to more frequent flooding in Bangladesh and other low-lying nations. Food production could also be disrupted. Melting polar ice is expected by some to lead to a sea lane above Siberia in a few years.

While scientists generally agree that the world's climate is changing, there is more disagreement over how much of the change is due to human behavior. Some believe a great deal of the warming is caused by burning fossil fuels, which create greenhouse gases that trap heat. Examination of data from the 20th century implicates humans, Meehl said in a phone interview.

"Probably most of the climate change in the early part of the century was caused by natural events," he said, such as a rebounding of temperatures that ordinarily occurs after volcanoes. "But the change in the latter part of he 20th century was the result of human activity."

Others disagree. Still others assert that, because the stakes are so high, debating whether or not reducing greenhouse gas emissions can help makes no sense.

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"The scientific community now generally agrees that global
warming is in fact happening..." Yeah, liberal scientists haven't
figured out how to blame America yet.

"The truth about global warming - it's the Sun that's to blame"

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Solar Excuses
"The scientific community now generally agrees that global
warming is in fact happening..." Yeah, liberal scientists haven't
figured out how to blame America yet.

"The truth about global warming - it's the Sun that's to blame"

<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/" target="_newWindow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/</a>
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Posted by Earl Benser (4310 comments )
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grobil warming
the earth changes all the time. Man may help with change but thing will still happen. The earthquats will happen, the storms will happen and all you can do is hope you are not there when it happens.
Posted by sally3745 (9 comments )
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Global warming is directly linked to human action
Global warming is a fact. Hoping and praying won't help. We all can help with minimization of use of all fossil fuels. But are we prepared to do something, to sacrifice to luxury, to cheap gas....It seems the hurricanes are not strong enough...., the damage was not devastating enough,....
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grobil warming
the earth changes all the time. Man may help with change but thing will still happen. The earthquats will happen, the storms will happen and all you can do is hope you are not there when it happens.
Posted by sally3745 (9 comments )
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Global warming is directly linked to human action
Global warming is a fact. Hoping and praying won't help. We all can help with minimization of use of all fossil fuels. But are we prepared to do something, to sacrifice to luxury, to cheap gas....It seems the hurricanes are not strong enough...., the damage was not devastating enough,....
Posted by (2 comments )
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It makes sense ... if it can be proved.
It always amazes me how scientists can know the weather 100 years from now we they don't know where a Hurricane is going to strike 2 days from now.

Do enough research, and stop listening to people who sound reputable, and you'll see there is little proof for global warming. Hurricanes aren't getting stronger or more frequent. News is just traveling faster and people have short memories. Plus, more people live in danger zones. They forget that the strongest hurricane on record was 1933. They forget that most hurricanes to hit the US in one decade was in the 1940's.

And, who alive knows what happened before accurate records were kept?

You have to dig deep, because even some reports that come out against global warming somehow manage to get back to it being real.
Posted by i_am_still_wade (250 comments )
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I would love to!
So maybe you could post a listing of the scholarly journals and published reports that have undergone scientific scrutiny that you reviewed in your independent research? And I mean reports published by climatologists, geophysicists, and other scientists who specialize in the subject and not crackpots with degrees in divinity or philosophy or PR pieces put out by paid BS artists.

For those who would care to look <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.newscientist.com/home.ns" target="_newWindow">http://www.newscientist.com/home.ns</a> is a fine place to start. Type -climate change- into the search box and you will get about 1700 articles to choose from.

The truth is that global warming is accepted as factual by most of the worlds real experts. There is much debate over the exact mechanisms and outcomes but that does not alter the validity of the concept.
Posted by Mister C (423 comments )
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It's real, but what's the cause?
Global warming IS real - The question is, what's causing it? Is it natural? Is it induced by humans? Data from the IPCC shows an interesting increase in earths SFC (surface) temperature between 1900 and 1940, at the same rate at which temperatures are increasing today. Then, from 1940 to 1980, SFC temperatures actually DECREASED (see source at bottom). Even more interesting is that when the linear models used to predict future warming, they fail their retrocasts, meaning they can't even acurately predict what has already occured.

So, global warming is real - but it's WAY to early to say if it will contiune or reverse, or what the cause is. You can't tell me that over Earth's 5 billion-year lifetime, that "global warming" hasn't occured a couple of times.

IPCC Source: <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.ipcc.ch/present/graphics/2001syr/small/05.16.jpg" target="_newWindow">http://www.ipcc.ch/present/graphics/2001syr/small/05.16.jpg</a>
Posted by (11 comments )
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If you did the research...
You'd find there's nobody providing physical
evidence against global warming. You don't even
find much debate about whether it's a trend that
would alter local ecosystems and affect
agriculture, sea-level, etc.

What you find is debate on: how severe an issue
is it, what's the cause, is it part of a natural
cycle, is there something we can do about it
(and if so, should we), etc.

The evidence is pretty concrete that there's
global warming, and we know enough about climate
to know what the near-term ramifications are.
However, science is a less certain on the weight
of the contributing factors, the long term
prognosis for global climate, etc. So, the
amateur prognosticators (government) generally
take stances that support their overall position
with regard to the environment, and the press
presents the political spin as the underlying
science -- even going so far as presenting the
existence of global warming as some sort of
debate in the scientific community.

Global warming exists. Temperature trends are
easily tracked, the weather readily observable
on a global scale, and definition exists for the
term. It's silly to pretend it simply doesn't
exist.
Posted by Gleeplewinky (289 comments )
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Global Warming IS Happening
We've been comming out of an Ice Age for about 10,000 Years now
Posted by PaulnOKC (7 comments )
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It makes sense ... if it can be proved.
It always amazes me how scientists can know the weather 100 years from now we they don't know where a Hurricane is going to strike 2 days from now.

Do enough research, and stop listening to people who sound reputable, and you'll see there is little proof for global warming. Hurricanes aren't getting stronger or more frequent. News is just traveling faster and people have short memories. Plus, more people live in danger zones. They forget that the strongest hurricane on record was 1933. They forget that most hurricanes to hit the US in one decade was in the 1940's.

And, who alive knows what happened before accurate records were kept?

You have to dig deep, because even some reports that come out against global warming somehow manage to get back to it being real.
Posted by i_am_still_wade (250 comments )
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I would love to!
So maybe you could post a listing of the scholarly journals and published reports that have undergone scientific scrutiny that you reviewed in your independent research? And I mean reports published by climatologists, geophysicists, and other scientists who specialize in the subject and not crackpots with degrees in divinity or philosophy or PR pieces put out by paid BS artists.

For those who would care to look <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.newscientist.com/home.ns" target="_newWindow">http://www.newscientist.com/home.ns</a> is a fine place to start. Type -climate change- into the search box and you will get about 1700 articles to choose from.

The truth is that global warming is accepted as factual by most of the worlds real experts. There is much debate over the exact mechanisms and outcomes but that does not alter the validity of the concept.
Posted by Mister C (423 comments )
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It's real, but what's the cause?
Global warming IS real - The question is, what's causing it? Is it natural? Is it induced by humans? Data from the IPCC shows an interesting increase in earths SFC (surface) temperature between 1900 and 1940, at the same rate at which temperatures are increasing today. Then, from 1940 to 1980, SFC temperatures actually DECREASED (see source at bottom). Even more interesting is that when the linear models used to predict future warming, they fail their retrocasts, meaning they can't even acurately predict what has already occured.

So, global warming is real - but it's WAY to early to say if it will contiune or reverse, or what the cause is. You can't tell me that over Earth's 5 billion-year lifetime, that "global warming" hasn't occured a couple of times.

IPCC Source: <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.ipcc.ch/present/graphics/2001syr/small/05.16.jpg" target="_newWindow">http://www.ipcc.ch/present/graphics/2001syr/small/05.16.jpg</a>
Posted by (11 comments )
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If you did the research...
You'd find there's nobody providing physical
evidence against global warming. You don't even
find much debate about whether it's a trend that
would alter local ecosystems and affect
agriculture, sea-level, etc.

What you find is debate on: how severe an issue
is it, what's the cause, is it part of a natural
cycle, is there something we can do about it
(and if so, should we), etc.

The evidence is pretty concrete that there's
global warming, and we know enough about climate
to know what the near-term ramifications are.
However, science is a less certain on the weight
of the contributing factors, the long term
prognosis for global climate, etc. So, the
amateur prognosticators (government) generally
take stances that support their overall position
with regard to the environment, and the press
presents the political spin as the underlying
science -- even going so far as presenting the
existence of global warming as some sort of
debate in the scientific community.

Global warming exists. Temperature trends are
easily tracked, the weather readily observable
on a global scale, and definition exists for the
term. It's silly to pretend it simply doesn't
exist.
Posted by Gleeplewinky (289 comments )
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Global Warming IS Happening
We've been comming out of an Ice Age for about 10,000 Years now
Posted by PaulnOKC (7 comments )
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missing the mark, again
This article -- and the know-nothing comments it inspired -- help perpetuate the myth that scientific controversy surrounds the question of whether greenhouse gas emissions are causing global warming. In fact, there is no significant disagreement in scientific circles at all. The opposing view comes from organizations or individuals funded by the oil, gas, and coal companies, such as globalwarming.org. All they need to do is sow seeds of doubt in the public mind, with or without proof, and they've done their job -- and suckered the writer of this article into believing that the evidence in in doubt.

Not just the UN, but the National Academy of Sciences, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the Brookings Institution, and even the Bush administration (before Christie Todd-Whitman got slapped down by the fossil fuel lobbies) have agreed that auto and industrial CO2 emissions are almost without question the primary cause of the current warming trend, which -- as the latest NASA prediction goes -- will result in the Arctic ice cap disappearing in 60 years.

Denying science when it conflicts with profits is nothing new. Ibsen's "Enemy of the People" nailed it over 100 years ago. The difference this time, I think, can be found in the laughable comment (troll bait?) here that referred to "liberal scientists." In science, when a researcher comes up with a hypothesis, the game is to challenge it -- and if it withstands multiple challenges over time, it is gradully accepted. That's what happened with global warming. But this process is derided as "reality-based" by the wingnuts running things these days, who live their lives based on things they would like to be true, which are never challenged. They find the conclusions that benefit them the most personally and find "evidence" to support them, even if they have to pay for its manufacture. And they haven't the foggiest idea why anyone would live their lives any other way. Ergo, scientists must be "liberal."

That's why James Inhofe, a Republican senator from Oklahoma and the top recipient of big oil lobbying money -- who recently called global warming "the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people" -- kicked off his hearings with testimony by the loopy novelist Michael Crichton. No reputable member of the scientific community would be caught dead in that chair.
Posted by (5 comments )
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More Liberal BS
Talk about knowing nothing! This whole diatribe is the typical stupidity liberals try to foist on the unassuming. The biggest source of gas, greenhouse or otherwise comes from pseudoscientists that perpetuate such myths. This is the same crowd who was decrying the next ice age in the late 60's early 70's. One things for sure, the Earth undergoes slow temperatures changes through time. Idiots who blame man for everything should have stayed in the premordial slime which they also expouse. As Dr. F. Gump opined "stupid is as stupid does". Hopefully one day all these morons will move back into their cave. I look forward to less crowded freeways occupied by fewer nuts - do you all drive Volvo's or have you moved onto walking everywhere?
Posted by tbsteph (62 comments )
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Respond to this if you please
I'll by into the man is causing global warming MYTH when someone from the global warming camp can explain the cause of the many RAPID global warming and cooling periods that have occured in the past long befor factories and cars. Most recently around 700-900 years ago. Do a small amount of research on European Climate change and "Mini Ice Age" then come back here and explain how man was resoponsible for that. I DON'T DOUBT THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS HAPPENING. Its happened in the past - both gradually and quickly - and will happen again. With or without man.
Posted by (3 comments )
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Belief versis knowledge
This whole thing just points up the current war over the spoils of Western civilisation between those who understand the difference between blind belief and empirical knowledge (i.e. according to the evidence rather than a priori prejudice) and those who don't and/or won't because they are motivated by physical desire, not intellectual curiosity. Coupled with politically motivated or duped insincerity and a big dollop of narrowmindedness and we are nearly back in the Middle Ages with torture, imprisonment etc for thinking outside of the box and/or working from experimental results. "May you live in interesting times" is an ancient Chinese curse.
Posted by appledragon (8 comments )
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missing the mark, again
This article -- and the know-nothing comments it inspired -- help perpetuate the myth that scientific controversy surrounds the question of whether greenhouse gas emissions are causing global warming. In fact, there is no significant disagreement in scientific circles at all. The opposing view comes from organizations or individuals funded by the oil, gas, and coal companies, such as globalwarming.org. All they need to do is sow seeds of doubt in the public mind, with or without proof, and they've done their job -- and suckered the writer of this article into believing that the evidence in in doubt.

Not just the UN, but the National Academy of Sciences, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the Brookings Institution, and even the Bush administration (before Christie Todd-Whitman got slapped down by the fossil fuel lobbies) have agreed that auto and industrial CO2 emissions are almost without question the primary cause of the current warming trend, which -- as the latest NASA prediction goes -- will result in the Arctic ice cap disappearing in 60 years.

Denying science when it conflicts with profits is nothing new. Ibsen's "Enemy of the People" nailed it over 100 years ago. The difference this time, I think, can be found in the laughable comment (troll bait?) here that referred to "liberal scientists." In science, when a researcher comes up with a hypothesis, the game is to challenge it -- and if it withstands multiple challenges over time, it is gradully accepted. That's what happened with global warming. But this process is derided as "reality-based" by the wingnuts running things these days, who live their lives based on things they would like to be true, which are never challenged. They find the conclusions that benefit them the most personally and find "evidence" to support them, even if they have to pay for its manufacture. And they haven't the foggiest idea why anyone would live their lives any other way. Ergo, scientists must be "liberal."

That's why James Inhofe, a Republican senator from Oklahoma and the top recipient of big oil lobbying money -- who recently called global warming "the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people" -- kicked off his hearings with testimony by the loopy novelist Michael Crichton. No reputable member of the scientific community would be caught dead in that chair.
Posted by (5 comments )
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More Liberal BS
Talk about knowing nothing! This whole diatribe is the typical stupidity liberals try to foist on the unassuming. The biggest source of gas, greenhouse or otherwise comes from pseudoscientists that perpetuate such myths. This is the same crowd who was decrying the next ice age in the late 60's early 70's. One things for sure, the Earth undergoes slow temperatures changes through time. Idiots who blame man for everything should have stayed in the premordial slime which they also expouse. As Dr. F. Gump opined "stupid is as stupid does". Hopefully one day all these morons will move back into their cave. I look forward to less crowded freeways occupied by fewer nuts - do you all drive Volvo's or have you moved onto walking everywhere?
Posted by tbsteph (62 comments )
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Respond to this if you please
I'll by into the man is causing global warming MYTH when someone from the global warming camp can explain the cause of the many RAPID global warming and cooling periods that have occured in the past long befor factories and cars. Most recently around 700-900 years ago. Do a small amount of research on European Climate change and "Mini Ice Age" then come back here and explain how man was resoponsible for that. I DON'T DOUBT THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS HAPPENING. Its happened in the past - both gradually and quickly - and will happen again. With or without man.
Posted by (3 comments )
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Belief versis knowledge
This whole thing just points up the current war over the spoils of Western civilisation between those who understand the difference between blind belief and empirical knowledge (i.e. according to the evidence rather than a priori prejudice) and those who don't and/or won't because they are motivated by physical desire, not intellectual curiosity. Coupled with politically motivated or duped insincerity and a big dollop of narrowmindedness and we are nearly back in the Middle Ages with torture, imprisonment etc for thinking outside of the box and/or working from experimental results. "May you live in interesting times" is an ancient Chinese curse.
Posted by appledragon (8 comments )
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Glogal Warming
Ever since when the ice age end, the earth has
been warming.

Man trying to change weather is so pitiful!
Posted by umapine (2 comments )
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Thanks for the laughs
It is so funny watching something as insignificant as mankind carp about somethng like global warming.

Folks - we live on an organic planet that could care less that we exist on it's surface. It will continue to "live" regardless of what we little humans do to it. When you look at how long mankind has existed on this planet, versus the age of the planet itself, we are not even a blink of an eye.

One day, this planet will warm up enough that the ice caps will melt and flood all of the continents. It has happened before - and it will happen again. And there isn't one damn thing us puny little humans can do about it.

See, that is the probelm with mankind We are so narcissistic. We actually think we are "important" and we can conqueror all. LOL!!! Tell that to a hurricane or earthquake.
Posted by Snowdog63 (44 comments )
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Glogal Warming
Ever since when the ice age end, the earth has
been warming.

Man trying to change weather is so pitiful!
Posted by umapine (2 comments )
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Thanks for the laughs
It is so funny watching something as insignificant as mankind carp about somethng like global warming.

Folks - we live on an organic planet that could care less that we exist on it's surface. It will continue to "live" regardless of what we little humans do to it. When you look at how long mankind has existed on this planet, versus the age of the planet itself, we are not even a blink of an eye.

One day, this planet will warm up enough that the ice caps will melt and flood all of the continents. It has happened before - and it will happen again. And there isn't one damn thing us puny little humans can do about it.

See, that is the probelm with mankind We are so narcissistic. We actually think we are "important" and we can conqueror all. LOL!!! Tell that to a hurricane or earthquake.
Posted by Snowdog63 (44 comments )
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What Does This Article Have to Do with IT?
About once a month, CNET's editors allow an article like this to be included on the front page of news.com--which have absolutely no relevance to anything even remotely related to information technology. What possible purpose is there in including articles like this on a site like news.com--much less on the front page? What is the agenda that the editors seem to be trying to advance?

Perhaps the writer can respond with an explanation.
Posted by (4 comments )
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In case you haven't looked
It is called -News.com- News of change, and climate change qualifies as change.
Posted by Mister C (423 comments )
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Because its important!!!!!!!!!
Because its important to keep the populace at large properly indoctrinated with the latest fabricated doomsday scenario. Otherwise, the drones might start questioning things... and then they wouldnt be good little consumers, would they?
Posted by (402 comments )
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What Does This Article Have to Do with IT?
About once a month, CNET's editors allow an article like this to be included on the front page of news.com--which have absolutely no relevance to anything even remotely related to information technology. What possible purpose is there in including articles like this on a site like news.com--much less on the front page? What is the agenda that the editors seem to be trying to advance?

Perhaps the writer can respond with an explanation.
Posted by (4 comments )
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In case you haven't looked
It is called -News.com- News of change, and climate change qualifies as change.
Posted by Mister C (423 comments )
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Because its important!!!!!!!!!
Because its important to keep the populace at large properly indoctrinated with the latest fabricated doomsday scenario. Otherwise, the drones might start questioning things... and then they wouldnt be good little consumers, would they?
Posted by (402 comments )
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Problem Will Self-Correct
Sustained high oil and natural gas prices and further supply disruptions will lead to a shift to alternative energy sources. Most likely development will come from China as they realize that it is foolish to keep paying inflated prices to the Middle East for an unstable supply that threatens their ablilty to continue to grow as a manufacturing powerhouse and to economically feed their people.

China's central planning and Communist rule will allow them to bypass social and environmental concerns to move ahead with experimental methods such as beaming down microwave energy from space. Once they find technology that works, they will license it, or perhaps sell the power directly to a desperate world. I do not expect solutions to come from the industrialized countries of Europe or the U.S. as their Big Energy vested interests have the most to lose from a move away from fossil fuels.
Posted by Stating (869 comments )
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Don't get excited....
.... about beaming down microwave energy from space. assuming
that you can come up with an adequate orbital power source, by
the time you can beam enough power to the ground to be useful,
you'll have fried everything on the ground. Then, no further power
will be needed.
Posted by Earl Benser (4310 comments )
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Yes
We'll probably find other solutions.
Such as wind farms that kill birds and bats.
Or solar cells that generate tons of chemical waste for their production, and that last for a few years.
Or hydrogen, that needs other sources for generation, adding inefficiencies in the process.
Or hydroelectric that floods vast areas and kills whole ecosystems.
Or geothermal that produces enough energy to power an average house.

Until cold fusion is attained, or environmentalists stop opposing to (much cleaner and safer) atomic fision energy, we are stuck with oil, CO2 and global warming.
Posted by Hernys (744 comments )
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Problem Will Self-Correct
Sustained high oil and natural gas prices and further supply disruptions will lead to a shift to alternative energy sources. Most likely development will come from China as they realize that it is foolish to keep paying inflated prices to the Middle East for an unstable supply that threatens their ablilty to continue to grow as a manufacturing powerhouse and to economically feed their people.

China's central planning and Communist rule will allow them to bypass social and environmental concerns to move ahead with experimental methods such as beaming down microwave energy from space. Once they find technology that works, they will license it, or perhaps sell the power directly to a desperate world. I do not expect solutions to come from the industrialized countries of Europe or the U.S. as their Big Energy vested interests have the most to lose from a move away from fossil fuels.
Posted by Stating (869 comments )
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Don't get excited....
.... about beaming down microwave energy from space. assuming
that you can come up with an adequate orbital power source, by
the time you can beam enough power to the ground to be useful,
you'll have fried everything on the ground. Then, no further power
will be needed.
Posted by Earl Benser (4310 comments )
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Yes
We'll probably find other solutions.
Such as wind farms that kill birds and bats.
Or solar cells that generate tons of chemical waste for their production, and that last for a few years.
Or hydrogen, that needs other sources for generation, adding inefficiencies in the process.
Or hydroelectric that floods vast areas and kills whole ecosystems.
Or geothermal that produces enough energy to power an average house.

Until cold fusion is attained, or environmentalists stop opposing to (much cleaner and safer) atomic fision energy, we are stuck with oil, CO2 and global warming.
Posted by Hernys (744 comments )
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Why waste the money...
... trying to address what the vast majority of scientisits consider
a potentially catastrophic problem?

I mean, their educated guess could be wrong. Then we'll have
wasted all that money.

Holes in the ozone open up and close all the time! Just last
night, in fact, one opened over my neighbors garage. He says
smoking causes lung cancer. The fool, cancer rates have surged
and subsided throught out history.

Equating liberalism with science is a terrible mistake. Ignoring a
potential problem that is very probably real, is the mark of
delusional irresponsibility.
Posted by mgreere (332 comments )
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Why waste the money...
... trying to address what the vast majority of scientisits consider
a potentially catastrophic problem?

I mean, their educated guess could be wrong. Then we'll have
wasted all that money.

Holes in the ozone open up and close all the time! Just last
night, in fact, one opened over my neighbors garage. He says
smoking causes lung cancer. The fool, cancer rates have surged
and subsided throught out history.

Equating liberalism with science is a terrible mistake. Ignoring a
potential problem that is very probably real, is the mark of
delusional irresponsibility.
Posted by mgreere (332 comments )
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i think NCAR needs ...
more, bigger and faster computers with which to generate global weather simulations upon which to lay their foundation of doom and gloom :)
Posted by Lolo Gecko (131 comments )
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i think NCAR needs ...
more, bigger and faster computers with which to generate global weather simulations upon which to lay their foundation of doom and gloom :)
Posted by Lolo Gecko (131 comments )
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O'Reily is my friend...
I can honestly say that I am a conservative, I like O'reily (to an extent), and I do in fact believe that global warming is a FACT. The only questions left are: What's the cause? Will it continue?

There was a period of "global warming" between 1900-1940, with a mini "ice age" or "global cooling" between 1940 and 1980 - then another reversal back to a warming phase. Given that, I can see why everyone cried "the ice age is coming" back in the 1970's, but still - that trend reversed. Who knows if global warming will or won't do the same - I sure don't, and I am willing to bet that everyone else on earth don't know the answer either.
Posted by (11 comments )
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a 1000 years ago
a thousand years ago there was a growing season in Greenland. That was long before SUVs. No one's ever explained why that was possible then, but any warming now must be because of man.

Is the earth warming? Yes. At some point in the future the earth will be significantly warmer than it is now. Probably leading to mass extinctions.

Is the earth cooling? Yes. At some point in the futrue the earth will be significantly cooler than it is now. Probably leading to mass extinctions.

The problem is the doomsayers are trying to conceptualize matters of geologic scales from within their gnat-like attention spans.

The Earth is what, 4 BILLION years old? You think a 100 year period actually matters to it? For that matter, you think a 10,000 year period matters to it?
Posted by (402 comments )
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O'Reily is my friend...
I can honestly say that I am a conservative, I like O'reily (to an extent), and I do in fact believe that global warming is a FACT. The only questions left are: What's the cause? Will it continue?

There was a period of "global warming" between 1900-1940, with a mini "ice age" or "global cooling" between 1940 and 1980 - then another reversal back to a warming phase. Given that, I can see why everyone cried "the ice age is coming" back in the 1970's, but still - that trend reversed. Who knows if global warming will or won't do the same - I sure don't, and I am willing to bet that everyone else on earth don't know the answer either.
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a 1000 years ago
a thousand years ago there was a growing season in Greenland. That was long before SUVs. No one's ever explained why that was possible then, but any warming now must be because of man.

Is the earth warming? Yes. At some point in the future the earth will be significantly warmer than it is now. Probably leading to mass extinctions.

Is the earth cooling? Yes. At some point in the futrue the earth will be significantly cooler than it is now. Probably leading to mass extinctions.

The problem is the doomsayers are trying to conceptualize matters of geologic scales from within their gnat-like attention spans.

The Earth is what, 4 BILLION years old? You think a 100 year period actually matters to it? For that matter, you think a 10,000 year period matters to it?
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