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July 13, 2005 11:47 AM PDT

Newsmaker: Gary McKinnon: Scapegoat or public enemy?

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Gary McKinnon: Scapegoat or public enemy?
An unemployed North Londoner has been accused of committing the "biggest military computer hack of all time" by the U.S. government while authorities in Britain chose to release him without charge.

Gary McKinnon has a lot to worry about. His job prospects are bleak. He will shortly have to leave his home in North London and could be facing up to 70 years in a U.S. federal prison--a prospect that terrifies him.

His actions have been well-recorded. Over a period of years he managed to bypass the security of what should be the most sophisticated IT systems on the planet, many of which belong to the U.S. Department of Defense and NASA.

There (was) a definite illicit thrill that didn't last very long.

That was back in 2002. McKinnon has already been investigated thoroughly by the legal authorities in the United Kingdom and released without charge. But what some see as the slow-working cogs of the U.S. legal system are clicking into action now--leaving him hanging in limbo as he awaits a hearing later this month that will determine whether he's to be extradited. He's accused of hacking and causing damage to federal defense systems. Paul McNulty, the U.S. attorney for the eastern district of Virginia, said in 2002 that "Mr. McKinnon is charged with the biggest military computer hack of all time," according to several publications, including CNN.

The unemployed UFO enthusiast was, metaphorically speaking, able to walk right in, look around and make himself at home in what are supposedly some of the most secure systems in the world. Although breaking into the Department of Defense required a combination of ingenuity and hours of mindless drudgery, ultimately, McKinnon says, it was the "dangerously lax IT systems" that made it possible, he claims. And as for the "minor" damage to the systems concerned, it was not deliberate, he said, but happened accidentally while he was trying to cover his tracks.

McKinnon, now 39, admits that there was a period of his life when he was "addicted" to computers. It threatened his life, his health and his relationships at the time, but he couldn't leave them alone.

His interest in IT was sparked, as it was for many others, by an interest in science, science fiction and the unknown. It was the search for proof of extraterrestrial life and suspicions about federal policies and actions in the wake of Sept. 11, 2001, that led him to the restricted government sites in the first place.

McKinnon's story, some say, raises critical issues about the rights of British citizens accused of committing crimes in the United States, the state of IT security internationally, and the possible existence of antigravity technology in a U.S. military establishment.

Q: Why do you think the U.S. authorities behaved the way they did, with an extradition order?
McKinnon: Well, the reason they give is that I, on my own, closed down the entire metro district of Washington for a few days, including a weapons station, which I dispute.

My thing was being quiet and not being seen and getting the information out. And also, when I was there, you do a NetStat routine and you see all the other connections to that machine, and there is a permanent weakness for foreign hackers because their security is not even lax, it is nonexistent. You wouldn't believe it.

They might claim that by installing a remote control program, I opened them (the systems) up, but the access was already there. I didn't even have to crack passwords.

What about the damage you are said to have caused?
McKinnon: What they call damage is really just them realizing that they have been accessed without authorization. Then they say things like I deleted 300 users, deleted systems files and such. That was one instance when I did a batch file to clean up all my stuff--I think once and only once, though perhaps I ran it on the root drive of the "c:" drive. But it certainly wasn't every machine I was on and, if you believe them, they talk about 94 networks being damaged.

It is very worrying that it is the world's only superpower, and it is that easy to breach security.

Surely all the data was backed up anyway?
McKinnon: Well, it should be, and it should be behind a firewall, and the local administrator should not have a blank password. Take one defense computer, where they use image-based installation techniques where most of the machines have the same BIOS, the same hard drive, the same hardware specification, and you just whack it out across the systems. Unfortunately for them, the local system administrator's password was blank. So you don't even need to become the domain administrator. That's 5,000 machines all with a blank system level administrator password. To be fair to them, as I got deeper into it, they closed me down pretty quickly.

Did it worry you, this lack of protection for systems?
McKinnon: I was always very frightened when I realized there were always other people from all over the world on there. These were like foreign ISPs, routinely going through things. It is very worrying that it is the world's only superpower, and it is that easy to breach security.

What were you doing prior to the most recent arrest?
McKinnon: I wanted to get the trailing documentation to screw the Americans. I looked at things and I didn't like what I was seeing. They talk about the war on terror, and meanwhile they are training people in

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Whackjob
by July 13, 2005 1:51 PM PDT
This guy is a nut. The Government has anti-gravity devices???? Geeze.... I'm surprised we're wasting time taking him to court.
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Boeing and anti-gravity
by sanenazok July 13, 2005 2:24 PM PDT
It's not freaking magic and alien stuff, it's magnets...just applied in a non-standard way. Check out http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2157975.stm

This obviously went nowhere after five years, but still it shows what this guy's about. I guess his conceded addiction to computers "and the unknown" has had other effects.

Break the law do the time that's my motto.
Actually
by Fray9 July 13, 2005 3:49 PM PDT
Actually its not so far fetched. Scientists are starting to realize that magnetism and gravity are not seperate phenomenon like they've always believed.

It doesnt take a leap of logic to consider its possible the US government (with their billions in R&D and the worlds brightest minds on the payroll) may have realized this long ago and are still developing the technology.

If they are then it becomes rather natural that they would want to protect their ace in the hole until its ready. So if a researcher in finland figures out something early, the best thing to do is discredit their work by claiming the results cant be reproduced. Once thats declared, who would bother to try it again independantly considering how expensive and difficult the experiments are?

It may sound pretty consipracy theorist but you cant very well exclude the possibility completely simply because it seems unlikely. 100 years ago if you tried to tell people there was a device that could heat up their food with invisable radiation they would call you a whackjob. Today theres a microwave oven in nearly every home.

It is possible to counteract gravity.. thats a given. The problem is that its very difficult to do today outside of very specific circumstances.
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Think again !!
by vibesee October 15, 2006 5:23 AM PDT
Its fairly well known the U.S. Government and military has poured vast sums of money into anti gravity projects, at times up to 2/3 the military research budget. Antigravity machines exist, I have seen a demonstration of one, admittedly it was a miniaturised version but it worked. I dont know if McKinnon is right about the power source being free though ! The demo I saw relied on a large amount of electricity
by princezuda August 28, 2008 12:14 PM PDT
Actually this guy is not a nut and if you believe everything that the government "releases" then you are very gullible. The military would never tell us 99 percent of the truth and this guy was in the systems and he knows what is going on . I also want to say that this guy has a syndrome which no one should over look and he should not face jail time he should face some type of home or placement with people with aspergers but not jail time that is just assanine.
by Azraelian July 22, 2009 11:37 AM PDT
Well, maybe the fact that the government is wasting time for this, gives it a little more reliability. Although I admit that it is quite unprobable, it is still possible!
Lax security is a problem but it's not an excuse
by aabcdefghij987654321 July 14, 2005 7:10 AM PDT
The managers who had really Lax security ought to be embarrased but lax security is not an excuse for breaking and entering.

It's already well established that failing to lock all your doors and windows in your home isn't an excuse for a burglar to enter your home and steal from you.

Do NOT give this clown any respect, he's still a common thief.
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an excuse?
by July 16, 2005 3:01 PM PDT
I fail to see him using lax security as an excuse. He said the lax security made it possible for him to enter and look around in. It seemed he was just mentioning the fact that there is lax security in attempts of informing the public. He knew he was hacking in, and he knew he wasn't allowed to see the restricted information.

I also fail to see him as a thief. It's a simple breach of security. In regards to another reply, it would be more like sneaking in your house and watching your t.v.

He's just another hacker that the government wants to take down. On a side note, hacker is a very legitimate title for him. It used to mean someone who explored the realms of the computer world. Now it means a computer intruder or criminal. Either way, it fits well. The term 'hacker' is not being glorified, just properly used.

I think the idea of the U.S. having antigravity capabilities is very possible. I personally don't believe the military nor the government has the ability to control the media. But then, if they can, perhaps they believe people will think it is a hoax?
by pithenumber January 12, 2009 2:34 PM PST
common thief?!?
that, my friend is s***. The government is keeping secrets from us forever, do you remember when the government revealed those things that were once denied. Sooner or later they will be forced to give us antigravity.
Off topic
by reustle July 14, 2005 11:51 AM PDT
kinda lame that most of the messages are about anti grav rather than the real issue of what should be done with this guy.

He broke into the DOD and nasa's system and got caught. Hes entiled to all the rewards that he earned (good, bad, & ugly).

Granted some of the charges are probly trumped up from hair splitting the law. If he gets a fair US trial by jury then the crap gets let go.

As far as anti grave, PBS's nova and a few other science shows have pointed out we already have the techology to do anti grav. aka levatation.

The problem is it uses gigwatt magnets. To record the event the cameras have to placed far from the action and depend on the zoom ablites. Add by the shear size of this thing, its limmited to only ounces of nonmetal material its all but impraticle and very costly to use .
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Why publicize?
by Below Meigh July 14, 2005 1:07 PM PDT
Thief. Crook. Interloper. Hacker.

Why do we even glorify the term "hacker"? Technically, he's not even that.
This guy broke laws (in another country, remotely or otherwise). Criminal trespass, espionage, ... DCMA, etc... Its not whether he just put in a wrong web address but that he actually probing and forcing entry into private systems (lax security...that is speculative...)

Another case of blaming others when you are the problem. And is that his ugly mug shot? "Yellow eyes, I swear he had yellow eyes" (Christmas story...)
Hmm
by bradyme July 15, 2005 1:35 PM PDT
I think it's pretty stupid for someone getting paid by yhe government to be a system admin to load either linux or Unix and make the root password blank.

The story out of this one is "Who's the admin, and did he or her get a pink slip?"
MagLev is not anti-gravity...
by Earl Benser July 18, 2005 9:21 AM PDT
... no more than a helicxopter is anti-gravity. Both are just means
to generate a force to suspend a body within a gravity field.
by pithenumber January 12, 2009 2:38 PM PST
Hacker != cracker

He is a hacker, he explored NASA and found government secrets.

People who attack banks and steal money, are crackers

I am a hacker and I hate crackers

I wish I had the courage to go into NASA, I thought they had an awesome security
I apologise
by bit-looter July 14, 2005 3:13 PM PDT
Hey Gary, if you're reading this, I am sorry for cracking chokes about how ugly you were (granted that is a pretty awful picture!). Hope apologies are accepted.
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There's Nothing Common About Him
by SeizeCTRL July 15, 2005 6:35 AM PDT
There is a huge difference between breaking into someone's home and stealing a TV than breaking into a computer and COPYING information. Despite the possibility of physical harm involved in a B&E, the theft is something tangible. Theif takes TV which means you no longer have a TV. Now if the theif breaks into your home and makes a COPY of your TV and sneaks off into the night without you knowing. Did he really steal from you? No! He is guilty of the B&E but you still have your property.

For this guy to break into some high level systems, he isn't anywhere remotely in the same league as a "common thief".
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WHAT?!
by July 15, 2005 7:52 AM PDT
Are you actually comparing something that is not even possible ( albeit I know it was just an example ) as "copying" a tv to taking vital and secured ( or at least not very secured by the look of it ) goverment and military logistical information? If you want to compare this to something, compare it to someone either coming in your house and copying everything from your birth certificate to social security and every other form of ID you have. Now, does that sound like stealing? He was using this information, no matter what you would like to say, for his own purposes whether they were harmful ( doubtful ) or just to fuel his own conspiracy theorist doubts of the real standing of the USA. I have no sympathy for this man. What I find very strange is that all of this information was actually allowed to be put in the press... if any of this information had any rightful standing, do you really think that the US military would have allowed this to go through?! Also, this could actually be considered a hate crime because he is using lock down information to prove and fuel his blameful way of thinking. IMHO
Joey boy has been overdosing...
by Earl Benser July 16, 2005 2:22 PM PDT
... with his stupid pills again......

But he is right about one thing - For this guy to break into some
high level systems, he isn't anywhere remotely in the same league
as a "common thief". This guy is well past 'common thief' in terms
of the damage he has done, even if it was 'unintentional'
What he did was not stealing
by quasarstrider July 15, 2005 6:18 PM PDT
If this was the real world, what he did would be called trespassing, espionage, plus some minor destruction of property.

I suspect espionage is the biggie. Most countries have harsh sentences for it.
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Lucky guy
by July 17, 2005 9:22 AM PDT
" I wanted to get the trailing documentation to screw the Americans" - that was a quote from him. He breaks into a DoD machine & rummage around.

In this post-9/11 paranoia (actually, everyone IS out to get the Federal government. But the form of their distrust appears irrational - hence it could still be considered paranoia) era, where anything anti Federal government is seen as "fair" game, he's lucky he isn't in Gitmo.
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by foot69 April 6, 2009 1:21 PM PDT
First I find who ever keep popping in defending My GOV. very funny
they have , are , and will continue to lie to the public about most thing's
I know because stuff I saw and worked with in 1981 in the service is just now being reviled to the public
that said I thought Obama was gonna release stuff kept from the public up till now??
I'd like to know more about anti-grav , ufo's underground bases , ect..........
20yr's ago this work was done by reporters , but now since Gov. controlls the press [specialy FOX and all Rupert Murdock owns 90% of all media outlets] people have no choice but to hack this info
and let's be truthful somewhere there's a room in the C.I.A. where people sit all day and hack other Gov. computers so U.S.A. Gov.is not innocent
and truthfully other that keeping technology in the hands of the rich so they can get richer what's the since in hiding UFO, and other info I mentioned secret?
If I know UFO's are real will I be able to make one ??
hell no!!
the reason this stuff is secret is simple either they have made deals with the aliens or the rich want to be richer
think about it people have known for years about atomic bombs , and how many country's have made them?
of course some info on that subject is secret as should some on most subjects that concern national security
but to hide and lie about it completely makes me think new world order and Bush admin and farther back of course

no I find this man and a few other whistel blowers to be hero's and we need more people like him hopefully in the reporter proffesion
In truth most things hiddin from the public are hurtfull to the public
Lock him
by Pauldsu February 14, 2007 12:19 PM PST
He know what he was doing is wrong. I hope they lock him at the full extend. This send a message out to all hacker and thief.
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by pithenumber January 12, 2009 2:42 PM PST
Hackers aren't thieves
he revealed secret government conspiracy to the public and you refuse to believe him

we should demand the government give us access to all information
US kills democracy by covering own mistakes
by squadron77 February 17, 2007 10:08 AM PST
US Government: Instead of blaming others, look at yourself! So much corruption at the governmental quarters, open the secret files and show to people - people deserve to know what is happenning where they live. Do not think of people as a herd of animals and do not think of them as dumb! Everyone discussing these issues: on subway, during lunch, in the bars, at the family gatherings... Don't you think that people know about UFO files ? About Secret Intelligence connections ? About spy games ? Do not be naive.

And stop blaming someone who was able to break your codes. It does not take too much to do it. Instead of accusing, look into your own errors and patch the systems. Use Unix which is stronger than Windows...

And instead of sending Gary McKinnon to jail, pay him big money (like all overs at government headquarters) and beg him to work for you! Maybe this way US will learn something, since nowadays, it looks like noone at the top knows what's going on in the country and what people need!

Off course Gary did brake into the systems and it's a crime in US, but it should be a good lesson to US arrogance about country's lack of ability to protect themselves. Learn something - US government - do not make others your scapegoats!!!
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Scapegoat for USA
by Pecora96 June 7, 2007 10:29 AM PDT
Here is a poster for Gary or the Americans

http://www.demotivate.org/pages/posters/solution/solution.htm

Pete
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by bradbrooklee June 17, 2008 5:22 PM PDT
The forces should be glad. He's shown them how foolish they truly are & how much they need to have better security. He's actually done them a favour. I wonder how many have done the same thing before without being caught out.

The American military IT departments, which would be huge by any estimate, should be ashamed of themselves. Blank passwords; they deserve to be hauled over the coals for an indiscretion so basic in IT for security.

They have no right blaming this fellow when they are so incompetent.
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by denmason August 4, 2008 8:23 AM PDT
What I really want to know is... Are the people that left their computers unlocked going to suffer similar consequences? If not, why not. Seems to me that they are more of a risk to the government than Gary is. They are the ones responsible in the end for the security and therefore also be punished. I see their incompetence as nearly treasonous, it is they who put this information at risk! Not Gary. Leave him be. Once again America has shown the world that it is full of fools.
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by warphan August 5, 2008 11:46 AM PDT
Most of you mis the real issue: He should be tried in his own country, and protected to a certain degree from foreign governments. When he commited this crime, he was in the UK. Also, no proof of him damaging any computers were ever presented. According to his YouTube interview, it looks like the US gov manufactured this 'fact' to make him become a posterboy for others who might actually pose a threat. I just stumbled upon his story, so I'm not clear on all the facts, but that is my point. Shouldn't there be evidence and proof?! .. and shouldn't the punishment fit the crime?!
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by mrglsmrc August 12, 2008 8:03 PM PDT
the brits have a good deal and ought to honor the extradition treaty. how many ex-IRA were deported from new york during the troubles? this gary mck had political motivations for what he did. he broke american law--the servers were in america. short of trying him in some virtual world that doesn't exist, he ought to be tried in the usa and learn to accept the consequences of his actions.
he is non-violent and probably won't serve too much time. if he had messed around with royal navy logisitics during wartime i am sure his name would be expunged from public records and he'd be disappeared for a long time.
by gmlevinmd123 September 6, 2008 12:49 PM PDT
Any psychiatrist or M.D. would tell you that Asperger's syndrome is an obsessive compulsivity disorder. He needs to have some psychotherapy and be on medications that control obsessive thinkng and compulsive actions.....
Extraditing here to the U.S. is a waste of my taxpayer dollars.
And yes there is alot of research on antigravity devices.
This guy is brilliant but needs to be harnessed.... The guys that sh ould be disciplined are the ones in charge of security and flaws in their systems.....

Put all hackers to work on unsolvable problems..
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by pithenumber January 12, 2009 2:45 PM PST
its called ethical hacking

I do it
by bfann2 December 28, 2008 11:09 AM PST
It appeared that McKinnon's objective was altruistic, to force the country to come clean about UFOs & reverse-engineered technology gleaned from alien intelligences so that discoveries that could benefit ALL people would be made public. Peripherally, using a 56k dial-up modem no less, he ALSO disclosed that the security of our country's most sensitive intelligence information was appallingly defective. That he outed this and embarrassed the US government would appear to be one cause for retribution. But there is probably another: Somewhere in this technology is a simple solution for our energy needs. Remember that the fossil-based energy industry which daily charges $$ trillions for heat in winter and cooling in summer (along with the juice to boot all our techno toys and TVs and such we have been brainwashed into believing are necessities) would NOT like affordable technology introduced that would eliminate their stranglehold on the world. So look behind the curtain AND "follow the money" to find the real folks out to punish McKinnon and scare off other hackers.
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by G0D73CH February 7, 2009 4:47 PM PST
Gary McKinnon came so close to breaking the "Accurate Evidence" theory in which all skeptics and debunkers whine about; however, we already have Accurate Evidence as of today. I believe in everything this guy says from start to the future finish. I trust in him enough that I would put my life on the line to defend him.

He was introduced to what he did, who he was and what they called him on Fox News then abruptly disappeared from Fox. Fell from the face of the Media. Why the case? I am not sure, but from what I am seeing, Gary is winning.
A nightmare for NASA and how are they going to defend themselves against him? They can't. Instead they consist on saying he damaged their networks in an attack to cover what they really have hiding. Being NASA they can't state that "Gary hacked into our database and found a picture of a legit alien craft on the Apollo Moon mission."
I have once took pride in the country I live in today, The USA. I took pride in the military and took pride in out Leaders. Whilst searching, I come across a record of all sorts of Conspiracies and Cover-up's by top Authority figures and people, it is not an excuse, It is just as much real as the ground you stand on this very minute. Goofy skeptics/debunkers that claim to be experts has made me realize that something is going on.
Not just the USA but the world, but no other country has lied this much to their people especially on the UFO/Extra Terrestrial Life subject and these thick headed fool skeptics take being lied to as a great deal. It's time to wake up and stop thinking we are advanced, and stop denying other life within the Universe, or Multiverses in QP.
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by G0D73CH February 7, 2009 4:48 PM PST
A little history check for the people being drawn to the "Denying Side".
-8 December 8, 1941: America declares war on Japan.
-Monday, August 6, 1945: "Little Boy" was dropped on Hiroshima
Following on August 9, the detonation of "Fat Man" on Nagasaki.
-Roswell Crash: On the evening of July 2, 1947, several witnesses observed a disc-shaped object moving swiftly in a northwesterly direction.
-In July of 1952 a panicked government watched helplessly as
squadrons of "flying saucers" flew over Washington, D.C., and
buzzed the White House, the Capitol Building and the Pentagon. It
took all the imagination and intimidation the government could
muster to force that incident out of the memory of the public.
Today-60 years of Lies.

Now, you may say we are the only high-tech beings out there. Let's compare the differences from 1941 starting from ww2 to 2009.
- Total number in United States forces during WW2. Army: 8,300,00 Navy: 4,204,662 Marines: 599,639 and the Grand total is 13,104,355. Total US casualties 996,242. This is without the technology taken from the Crash at Roswell.

-Roswell. Decorated EX-US Intelligence Officer, Phillip Corso Claims Not only that UFO's are REAL, but that the US Military has harvested Advanced Technology from them. He was considered One of the Top Military Men in His Field. He was responsible for bringing Alien Technology to Military Labs and Civilian Scientists and they used it to make Lasers, Fiber Optics, Integrated Circuits, Night Vision Image Goggles and Bullet Proof Vests. A piece of Super Strong Metallic Cloth that may have protected the Aliens in their space craft. A tube that appears to shoot a Searing Red Light, may have been a Surgical Instrument or a weapon. An Alien Made Headband, according to his reports, might have been used to Transmit Thoughts or control the Alien Craft. An imprinted set of Miniaturized Circuits, perhaps a Prefabricated Micro Circuit. A flexible wire that might have transmitted light through its interior. And a Lense that could allow possibly anyone to see in the dark, supposably taken from the Eye of an Alien Being. According to Corso, scientists Wernher Von Braum and Robert Oppenheimer have access to the Roswell Crash Site. And so Government in the US along with Government around the world have "Gone out of their way to keep that wrapped up inside a riddle that is Smothered by an Enigma."
Your average skeptics claim that the technology Corso announced was ready to emerge anyway. As proof to strike back at the skeptics, they offer up the "Mind Control Head Band" from the alien technology that Corso did not claim to Develop. And today its on its way to becoming a reality without his help.

-Iraq War, March 2003-February 2009. US troops named dead: 4,155. US troops reported dead: 9. Total Dead: 4,164. US Wounded: 30,182.
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by G0D73CH February 7, 2009 4:49 PM PST
Now tell me, Inane Un-Believers. Within the years being ww2 1941-1945 to Roswell in 1947 which is an approximate of 60-62 years to 2009. That is QUITE a gargantuan technological jump in only 60-62 years my friend. We certainly did not have a mindset of rapidly advancing technologically after the year 1945 until the crash happened. Without the crash, we would still be trying to figure out how to invent integrated microchips.
Those whom claim "We were the ones that Invented what they recovered from the craft" are usually the ones born with a 3 to 5 inch thick skull with a daily decrease of knowledge.

That is your lesson for today you doubtful skeptics!

As for Gary McKinnon, You claim him to be a common thief, but he is trying to do the people a favor. As McKinnon has said,"How do you steal information that has all these years rightfully belonged to the People?" NASA is creating excuses because they are backed in a rut. Those who think differently, claiming him as a thief, should disappear for a long time, a criminal, or a typical hacker then here is a suggestion, you might as well brainwash your"Wife" and your "Kids" minds with Lies, send them off to NASA to cover up more of their BS.
Respect goes out to the people who see the real light, as for his political motivations to bring the truth to the people! If he does get sent to prison from 70 years, there will only be an increase of hacking attempts to NASA, Pentagon and any other secret DataBases that the US Harbor's. People from China and Russia have been doing the same for a number of years. Cyber Militias will increase as they already exist today, and if they continue to hide it from the people you will have in the future, Cells in the US whose motivations are pressurizing the government physically (Hopefully not by Killing people) by nationwide riots and destruction of Govt property. People whom have a Military background of Any Kind will be in the ranks of those cells. People, this is not a joke. This is real and you are only seeing the Cyber attacks and Intrusions to retrieve information that rightfully belongs to the people.

This country is supposed to be run by the people, for the people, and to the people, and it certainly seems to be the other way around. If this keeps up, there is bound to be Terror groups that arise within the 50 states. The people will grow fearless of Authority, and what then? Fear is nothing but an illusion given by consequences by Authority figures whom are like us. As soon as people realize that, as soon as they see people as people, not people as celebrity, not people as serial killer, not people as government leaders, it will lead out of control. Life however, is better on the other side for where Lies do not exist.
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by cabinns June 26, 2009 10:57 PM PDT
I would like to retract my earlier comment about this Gary guy....

Let him go. Lock up with the buffoon who ghosted thousands of machines with blank admin passwords and then left them live on the network. Gary didn't do any hacking. He simply stumbled on an unlocked bank. NetStat?... Really?... A mofo netstat....? Since when is that hacking? Now here it is I'm trying to get security clearance and idiots that the administrator for the network at one of the US's most secure installations makes a rookie mistake like that. Let Gary go. Fire your Admins. Hire me!
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