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Another open question is what portion of a university's or library's network must be rendered wiretap-friendly. One possibility is that only the pipe (or pipes) connecting a school with the rest of the Internet must be made CALEA-compliant. Another is that the entire network would be covered.

The FCC adopted its second order on Wednesday but released only a two-page summary, which didn't offer much clarity. In its initial ruling last year, the FCC said only that it had reached "no conclusions" about exactly what universities and libraries would have to do, prompting a flurry of comments filed with the agency and the federal lawsuit. (Plaintiffs in the lawsuit include Sun Microsystems, the American Civil Liberties Union, the Center for Democracy and Technology, the American Library Association, the American Council on Education and VoIP firm Pulver.com.)

Commissioner Copps acknowledged that there is "still some clarity to be provided" for library and university network operators, but he suggested that additional clarity would not be forthcoming from the FCC. Instead, "all those agencies and offices of government who are involved in CALEA implementation should be working together to provide clarity there to avoid confusion and possibly expenses for these institutions," Copps said.

At the Computers, Freedom and Privacy conference here Wednesday, John Morris of the Center for Democracy and Technology said libraries and universities are still left with more questions than answers.

"There's some serious uncertainty about how it will really play out for universities," Morris said. Even if the FCC technically calls for Internet interception at the edge of a campus network, that likely won't be enough to satisfy law enforcement demands for all of an individual student's network traffic, including on-campus activities, he added.

Injecting additional uncertainty is whether the FCC's action is legal. It represents what critics call an unreasonable extension of CALEA--which was designed to address telephone features such as three-way calling and call waiting--to the Internet.

A House of Representatives committee report (click here for PDF) prepared in October 1994 emphatically says CALEA's requirements "do not apply to information services such as electronic-mail services; or online services such as CompuServe, Prodigy, America Online or Mead Data (Central); or to Internet service providers."

When Congress was debating CALEA, then-FBI Director Louis Freeh reassured nervous senators that the law would be limited to telephone calls. "So what we are looking for is strictly telephone--what is said over a telephone?" Sen. Larry Pressler, R-S.D., asked during one hearing.

Freeh replied: "That is the way I understand it. Yes, sir."

Two of the four FCC commissioners who voted for the initial CALEA ruling last fall acknowledged that the federal government was on shaky legal ground. The FCC's regulation is based on arguing that the law's definition of "telecommunications carrier" applies to broadband and VoIP providers.

Then-FCC Commissioner Kathleen Abernathy, a Republican, said, "Because litigation is as inevitable as death and taxes, and because some might not read the statute to permit the extension of CALEA to the broadband Internet access and VoIP services at issue here, I have stated my concern that an approach like the one we adopt today is not without legal risk."

The FCC is no stranger to having its decisions rejected by a federal appeals court that can be hostile to what it views as regulatory overreaching. Last May, for instance, the FCC's "broadcast flag" was unceremoniously tossed out by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit.

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wait...
by Amazingant May 3, 2006 11:34 AM PDT
So, the ISPs are going to give the government money so they can start watching what I?m doing? Am I missing something here or are they trying to mess with the privacy of US citizens and make the big companies pay for it?
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Yes...You're missing something
by May 3, 2006 5:18 PM PDT
You're missing that the ISPs are going to pass that cost on to the customers. So in essence, you will be paying yet more money out of pocket to support the government's insatiable appetite to spy on it's citizens. :-)
What a good idea...
by umbrae May 3, 2006 11:37 AM PDT
Lets open HUGE privacy holes in broadband access, so idiot FBI agents can wiretap on us without issue. Who cares that everyday hackers will take advantage of this more than the government.

And, of course, end users are fee to pick up the tab as well.
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oh,
by Amazingant May 3, 2006 11:39 AM PDT
even better! they'll make the big companies pay for it, and my cable bill goes up! i didn't even think about that... wonder how long it'll be...
The Tab
by phasam May 3, 2006 12:34 PM PDT
Somehow my paycheck always finds it's way down some government-provided drain...
Remember J. Edgar
by Pete Bardo May 3, 2006 12:03 PM PDT
Our government is doing everything they can to make sure our rights as citizens do not extend to the internet. They take one right, one freedom at a time, little by little, until it's all gone.

Welcome to the new world.
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So much for the Internet Privacy Act.
by mstrhypno May 3, 2006 12:21 PM PDT
It will take the hacker community about twenty minutes to figure
out how to use this gaping hole in internet security.

Thanks, once again, to legislators who are completely clueless
as to how technology functions and wouldn't know the 7-step
model from a 12-step program, our rights as citizens to be
protected from intrusion into our private lives has, once again,
been removed.

Who says reincarnation isn't a fact? Joe McCarthy lives on in the
FCC!

Lee Darrow, C.H.
Chicago, IL
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Copps out!
by zanzzz May 3, 2006 12:38 PM PDT
"The first obligation is...the safety of the people,". That is the mindset of most politicians post 9/11. The problem is with safety first liberty is last. Democracy is risky business and always will be. The spineless wonders we have elected prove time again their eagerness to trade freedom for the illusion of security. At least these unelected FCC officials are consistent; producing one profoundly misguided ruling after another. Do these bozos really believe wiretapping a voip will catch any terrorists? Clearly most have a higher level of sophistication than openly chatting about operations on a phone or in an unencrypted email. What these government actions amount to in reality is the systematic establishment of a big brother data mining and monitoring apparatus. It seems rather redundant as the NSA has it already in place! I guess those guys don't share with the FBI and police hence the need for a duplicate system.
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Your Government Your friend
by lazarus_vendetta May 3, 2006 2:01 PM PDT
"If all Americans want is security, they can go to prison, they will have enough to eat, a bed and a roof over thier heads" - Dwight D. Eisenhower 12-8-49. This is so redicoulous. Ever since 9/11 more and more of our freedoms have been taken away. All in the name of "terroism". They can use this excuse to take all our rights, and people will still back them. Its sad really. Maybe we should just call the FBI on three way, it would make it easier for them. "Those who trade their freedoms for security deserve and will reserve niether." Benjamen Franklin.
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"they hate us because of our freedoms" ...
by FTCnet May 3, 2006 6:55 PM PDT
Remember Pres. Bush giving a speech telling us why the terrorists hate us?

He said "terrorists hate us because of our freedoms."

So.. it's entirely logical that once our freedoms are eliminated we'll no longer be hated. Right?
Mantra Falls Flat
by GratefulWriter May 4, 2006 1:33 PM PDT
"More and more of our freedoms have been taken away ... they can use (9/11) to take away more of our rights..."

Which rights have disappeared? We don't have a constitutional right to low gas prices, nor have we ever had the freedom to speak freely with those who are at war with the U.S. Clearly, there has been no curb on the right to dissent, freedom of the press, or any other of our Constitutionally-protected rights. You and Franklin are right - those would give up God-given rights for freedom deserve neither, but that doesn't apply. Not yet, anyway. People like you desperately want rights to disappear, I know, so that you can feel good about yourselves and your anti-productive rhetoric. I hope that day doesn't come.
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Lame
by Timmmay May 3, 2006 2:04 PM PDT
Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Ben Franklin
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limiting choose
by p.shearer May 3, 2006 2:39 PM PDT
Argggg! it would appear that my only two political chooses are now between fascists or socialists. One wishes to deprive me of financial freedom; the other my personal freedom.
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1st obligation is the Constitution
by dboy69 May 3, 2006 2:53 PM PDT
Sure seems like the first obligation should be to the constitution.
Reportedly they already have the ability to enable wiretapping...
If US citizens continue to abrogate their rights, we have no one to blame but ourselves. Write and/or call your representatives and let them know this is unacceptable.
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Sadly
by heystoopid May 3, 2006 3:04 PM PDT
Sadly, we have totally forgotten the reason for the "Boston Tea Party"!

And now , we have to pay an extra impost to allow big brother to bug us all in daily life, truly amazing!, what's next, burn the constitution?

Oh well, there is always the ballot box?, for even a simple ficus tree can do a far better job, then the current house majority!(it can't fall asleep, and is too wooden, to take bribes or free lunches, from the corporate sector!)

Taxes, arbitrarily imposed without representation, are truly evil!!!!!!
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Protect me from my government
by jacksons98 May 3, 2006 3:17 PM PDT
"The first obligation is...the safety of the people," said FCC Commissioner Michael Copp. I'm more concerned about our own government than I am about terrorists. Almost daily I read an article like this about how taking our rights away is because they care for our safety. I'll take my chances thank you
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OUR government!
by AECRADIO May 3, 2006 7:27 PM PDT
What are the first words in the declaration of independance?

Oh that's right...>WE THE PEOPLE!

Since when did this jackass-run 'government' obtain total authority and power over WE THE PEOPLE, and create a nation of SLAVES?

Buy more guns, take a stand!

Fight fire with fire!

Vote OUT those people bent on creating a dictatorship, and prevent this current MORON from usurping more power than he has a constitutional right to!

Wasn't his OATH OF OFFICE to DEFEND AND PROTECT the CONSTITUITION to the BEST of HIS ability when he was sworn in?

Is he DOING THIS NOW?

NO!

I say IMPEACH AND SEND HIM TO PRISON FOR TREASON!
THE FCC Doesn't Have the Authority
by PzkwVIb May 3, 2006 4:11 PM PDT
to do this. They are grossly overstepping their purview. This moronic Agency keeps grabbing for more power and more control. They definitely have no rights to setup backdoors in private data networks.
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The F.C.C and taxes....????????
by AECRADIO May 3, 2006 10:55 PM PDT
WHEN did the F.C.C become a LEGISLATIVE branch with authority to introduce 'new' taxes anyhow?

Bush is allowing this chicken s***t government to do whatever it pleases and with NO accountability to the people anymore.

Time to charge and sentence Bush for: Treason and high crimes, and shove his ass in for LIFE for his despotic methods, THEN have him tried INTERNATIONALLY for WAR CRIMES AND TORTURE!

20 LIFE TERMS IN PRISON FOR BUSH!!!
I can do that too.
by ajbright May 3, 2006 5:19 PM PDT
Everyone should jump in the air repeatedly, whilst at the same time flapping your arms like a bird at least three times a day.

If you don't the governments ability to fight terrorism will be severely restricted.

It's a well known fact that terrorists are fat (actually one of the terrorists on a cliche'd Chuck Norris movie was fat, and as such provides a clear link between the loss of 50s style exercise programs and 9/11) so if obese America drops a few lbs we will be able to implicate all remaining fat people as terrorists.

Not working for you?

Well then unfortunately, and although we recognise every American's right to religious freedom, this should not be mistaken as an excuse to for everyone to forget to carry a Bible on their persons at all times.

It is a well known fact that if a member of Al Quaeda was to even touch an official US Jesus Manual he would burst into flames.

Remember that while you have the right to religious freedom, this should not excuse your patriotic duty to be a Christian. In our revisionist version of the Constitution, not only does the President have the right to overall all levels of Government, but religious freedom is simply a reference to each American's duty to forsake Godless paganism.
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Red Alert - communist, bird flu carrying, terrorists will increase taxes
by ajbright May 3, 2006 5:59 PM PDT
The White House has finally admitted that there is something worse to fear than terrorists.

Apparently they have identified a clear link between Bird Flu and Al Quaeda, and are holding meetings at the highest level to decide how to use the invasion of Iraq to explain why tax cuts and placing wire taps on all Americans phone lines will prevent the next pandemic.

Clearly the only way to combat this threat is the unrestricted ability of the NSA to record each and every American's phone sex conversations, not too mention the suspicious increase in the use of the internet to purchase unChristian reading material or worse, booking a vacation in Al Quaeda's closest Ally - France.

The most important thing to remember is that the desire for privacy is clearly a subversive tendancy, and any such people the express such a desire should clearly be watched at all times.

Remember "Nothing to Hide, Nothing to Fear".

Next on the President's agenda, auto-voting. To circumvent immigrant voter fraud, all valid citizens should sign up for auto-votes immediately.

You will be allocated your Republican Voter Registration Identity Number, and your local Republican Senator will cast your vote for you.

This will prevent not only voter error, which nearly proved catestrophic in the 2000 election, and without timely intervention of the Supreme Court could have resulted in a non-Republican party approved president being elected.

Whilst we wouldn't want you to stop being in fear of terrorism, at least we can comfort you with the knowledge that terrorists will not hijack your vote.
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More people should use encryption
by Mallardd May 3, 2006 6:59 PM PDT
At first it might seem a little paranoid, but
why not just use it? If everyone used it then it
would be commonplace. Perhaps PGP should be
included by default in more software? I know
people who refuse to pay their bills from their
own bank's website out of fear that hackers
might SSL packets. Ironicly those same people
think nothing of handing their credit cards to a
waitress or bartender.

It is not very difficult for even the average
computer user to install and run encryption
software that makes ISP or government snooping
practically impossible. This can easily be done
with email as the technology is very mature, but
unfortunately very few people even bother using
it. Encryption also exists for VOIP and will
probably improve but most likely people will not
use it preferring to complain how "the man" is
able to snoop in on their business.
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Use of encryption
by Dave_Brown May 4, 2006 12:20 PM PDT
I agree with you Mallardd that we should all use encryption. But just watch there will be a day when the government outlaws encryption and anyone caught using it will be subject to fines or imprisonment.
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I will not censure myself
by camel828 May 4, 2006 7:16 PM PDT
I would have to disagree with you. While, I would encourage people to utilize encryption if possible, I don't believe it should be necessary. In theory, the government answers to us, not the other way around. As such, I should not be required to inconvenience myself or others in order to prevent the government from observing my personal thoughts and speech. Honestly, we revolted against Britain for less than the atrocities being foisted upon us by our own government. In case you forgot, the government is supposed to be "of the people, by the people, FOR the people."
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Constitution worthless says Bush
by FTCnet May 3, 2006 7:05 PM PDT
?Mr. President,? one aide in the meeting said. ?There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.?

?Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,? Bush screamed back. ?It?s just a ********* piece of paper!?

?I?ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution ?a ********* piece of paper.?? Thompson adds. (Doug Thompson - Capitol Hill Blue)
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Treason...
by Had_to_be_said May 3, 2006 9:18 PM PDT
Only an IDIOT...

...Would accept being able to spy-on, track, and record everything that every single American-citizen does, in the name of "...catching terrorists, and [other] criminals".

...And, only a TRAITOR would seriously propose it.

Once, the U.S. government decided that it no longer had to obey "The U.S. Constitution", the Law, ...or "...the will of the people..." it gave up every right to call itself a legitimate-government.

Let me put this more bluntly...

Those currently in control of the United States are nothing more than heavily-armed CRIMINALS, who have ILLEGALLY seized control of our nation. And, they clearly have no qualms about using ANY force necessary to completely control "...the people", solely for the benefit of a powerful few.

I just hope I can get my children out of the country before the shooting starts.
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screw the police
by 03296 May 3, 2006 10:11 PM PDT
and screw the federales and screw georgie porgie. we all know
what really needs to happen
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screw the police
by 03296 May 3, 2006 10:11 PM PDT
and screw the federales and screw georgie porgie. we all know
what really needs to happen
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screw the police
by 03296 May 3, 2006 10:11 PM PDT
and screw the federales and screw georgie porgie.
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