November 7, 2005 6:53 AM PST

EMI: We don't use rootkits

The EMI Group, one of the world's largest recording companies, has distanced itself from the controversy surrounding Sony BMG's digital rights management software by stating that it does not use rootkits on its own products.

Sony has been criticized for including DRM software with a music CD that runs even when the CD is not being played, and hides itself using rootkit technology. The software is difficult to remove and, if removed manually, could shut off access to the computer's CD player.

It has been rumored that other recording giants including EMI and the Universal Music Group use technology similar to that used by Sony; an EMI spokesman said on Friday that the DRM used on EMI's CDs can be completely removed if the user doesn't want to play the CD any more.

"The content-protection software that we're using can be easily uninstalled with a standard uninstaller that comes on the disc. EMI is not using any software that hides traces of the program. There is no 'rootkit' behavior, and there are no processes left running in the background," said an EMI spokesman in a statement.

EMI also said it was not working with First 4 Internet, the U.K. company that created the copy-restriction software for Sony, although it is trialing other content-protection software.

"EMI is not using First 4 Internet technology. We recently completed a trial of three content-protection technologies (Macrovision's CDS300, SunnComm's MediaMax and SonyDADC's key2audioXS), and First 4 Internet's technology was not one of those tested," said the spokesman.

Universal Music Group was unable to provide comment in time for this article.

Although Sony's use of rootkits has sparked an outcry, users would find it difficult to sue Sony in the U.K., even if their computer was damaged by its copy-restriction software, according to legal experts.

Ingrid Marson of ZDNet UK reported from London.

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DRM and CD Performanc
by coisa November 7, 2005 7:51 AM PST
Recently purchased the Dolly Parton CD, Those were the days. The music is distored when played on my brand new Sony DVD Player. The CD plays ok on another player.

This is DRM at its worst. My music collection is almost 2000 cd's and the collection is not likely to grow with this consumer abuse experience
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One way around Sony's DRM...
by Peet42 November 7, 2005 8:44 AM PST
Play your CD on a Linux box. :)
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Hacker response likely
by n3td3v November 7, 2005 10:27 AM PST
Its speculated that hackers will climb on a Sony bandwagon.
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Stop buying CDs!
by ericbrian November 7, 2005 10:38 AM PST
All I can say is stop buying CDs! Until these record companies stop treating me like a crimal, I won't buy any CD. I haven't bought one since 2000.
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This could be one of thee things
by Marcus Westrup November 7, 2005 10:41 AM PST
First, EMI is being honest and their products don't use anything as invasive as a root kit. I hope this is true, but I'm not convinced.
Second, some EMI partners are indeed using such tricks, and upper management does not have a clue.
Or, EMI is using a root kit, but they call it something else: "Sub level evaluation process" or some other spin-doctoring dribble.

You might suspect that I am yet another jade customer who is tired of recording companies playing these games.
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Sony don't hack people
by n3td3v November 7, 2005 11:06 AM PST
Artist: Goldie Lookin' Chain

Song: Sony Don't Hack People Hackers Do

Lyrics:

Come out with your hands on your head
Turn the rap music off and step away from the stereo
Put the hacking album down,
leave MC Hammer alone - turn it off
What?

Sony don't hack people, hackers do
Ask any politician and he'll tell you it's true
It's a fact, music makes you violent
Like Michael Jackson telling little Timmy to be silent
You don't believe me, here's my hype
Offer me the record and I'll show you the type
Of cyber criminal this rap **** is breeding
It's a fact that MC Hammer left me bleeding
Vanilla Ice made my mother say, "__"
If i stuck with 'UB40' then i woulda been in love
But I didn't, I got involved
Cypress ******* Hill taught me to make a ******* bomb
So I started, I bought another tape
The mob boys snapped me, my **** and balls ache
So remember script kids till the head doubles up
Sony don't hack people, it's just hackers

[Chorus]
Sony don't hack people, hackers do
Summon the police
Woop Woop Woop
Sony don't hack people, hackers do
Summon the police
Woop Woop Woop

Sony don't hack people, hackers do
I seen it in a documentary on BBC 2
hacked to death outside Hyper Value
Guns blazing like Michael Caine in Zulu
Gunners statistics are sometimes misleading
The type of criminal hacking is breeding
Shot in the chest no one here stopped the bleeding
2-4 to base over, are you receiving?
Remember rap tracks in '87
scott the lots up in hip-hop heaven
Biggie and Tupac R.I.P.
Even Jam Master Jay's in the cemetery

[Chorus]
Sony don't hack people, hackers do
Summon the police
Woop Woop Woop
Sony don't hack people, hackers do
Summon the police
Woop Woop Woop

Sony don't hack people, hackers do
I'm a ******* hacker and I might hack you
As a hacker I'm teachin' you a lesson
AK-47 is a Smith and Weston
Just say no, just like Sammo
Bulletproof vest, two guns and ammo
Hip-Hop gangsta tripping
Even Eminem's into pistol whipping
Solid Crew told we're the ones
P. Diddy, J. Lo in a nightclub with a gun
Heard Snoop Dogg now wants to bust a cap
Sony don't hack people, it's just hackers

One, two - yo, face my shoe
My name's Mike Balls and I'm coming through
cyber crimes, stabbin' and burgalarization
Is on the rise all across the nation
The safety's off and the pistol's aimed
The Yardies and the Mafia always get blamed
Politician's ashamed, and they haven't got a clue
hacking is more deadly than ******* kung-fu

[Chorus]
Sony don't hack people, hackers do
Summon the police
Woop Woop Woop
Sony don't hack people, hackers do
Summon the police
Woop Woop Woop

Sony don't hack people, hackers do
From Bristol Zoo to B&Q
I wanna hack, I wanna hack
Heard it in a song, now I'm into cyber crime
It's a sign of the times like Prince changing his name
You gotta have a shooter to be in the hack game
Like 'Michael Lown' about to stop
Sony don't hack people, it's just hacking

[Chorus]
Sony don't hack people, hackers do
Summon the police
Woop Woop Woop
Sony don't hack people, hackers do
Summon the police
Woop Woop Woop
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Trust me? where have I heard that before!
by heystoopid November 7, 2005 12:16 PM PST
This statement is from the people that implement cactus, non audio redbook standard cd, which has problems playing in most car audio cd and top of the line CD players like NAD etc, due to it's inherent defects. Now, they say trust me, we promise not to do what SONY BMG has done to break the law, throughout the world with their very illegal software, which included undocumented phone home feature as well and joke uninstaller, which reinstalls the DRM in visible format second time arround! Further, they have donated a set of tools, for use by by hackers/phishers/trojans to install devious undetectable malware. No EMI is waiting in the wings for INTEL/AMD/Microsoft to implement the Trusted Computing Module(something like the 1st gen apple intel mac)to strike, without warning! Trust me! No these record company conglomerates, have short change recording artists for decades stealing/diverting royalties and other payments due!, with their multifaceted/duplicitous books, so shy should they change! Besides all politicians say trust me, and we know how often, they keep their pronises! Ha ha, we gotcha again!
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RIAA (or Recording Industry Against Artists)
by PatrynXX November 7, 2005 12:36 PM PST
A friend of mine has decided to stop buying Sony Music cd's altogether unless they fix this nonsense. Although I think that's a bit extreme. I will have to say Sony may have cross the line here. Since when has the buying consumer become the enemy? I thought they wanted to go after the supposedly illegal downloader. (although that is a matter of opinion.) But of course some matter of opinion becomes law. As in the case with Grokster closing today. They still around? O_O Completely forgot about them. I'll rely on allofmp3.com for now. More and more I use them to buy music first to see if I like it, (or use them to make backup's of legally owned cd's. sounds silly, but after Sony's tactic, might be a safer alternative to make my legal backup.) I dislike storing my expensive cd's in a car. Although some do enter, the pricier one's do not.
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I guess we're all criminals
by ray82609 November 7, 2005 3:29 PM PST
Sony seems to think all of it's customers are criminals. I think it's a crime to putsomething on my computer I can't remove without corrupting my computer. I think we can make an impact by not buying any Sony/BMG products through the Christmas season.
-Ray
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T-Shirts
by Ucidalin November 8, 2005 9:22 AM PST
Has anyone come out with t-shirts on this subject yet?
Like "Have you been hacked by Sony today?", "Has your CD hacked your PC today?" or a Circle/Slash thru DMR Rootkit.
I think I would wear one so people would ask me what was talking about. People need to be educated.
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CAN SONY'S INFECTED CDs BE COPIED?
by bilacuda November 8, 2005 9:39 AM PST
I have used Easy CD-DA Extractor to copy EMI?s COPY CONTROLLED CDs.

http://www.poikosoft.com/

The copied discs play everywhere. I don?t know if it kills the Sony worm, but I can't risk damaging my computer and leaving it open to hackers. Arrogant Sony won't cough-up the damage.

Also see comments on Amazon with new Neil Diamond CD on Sony:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0009NSCVC/qid=1131469729/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/102-7982133-2892159?v=glance&s=music

Neil Diamond has the clout to stop this.
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CAN SONY'S INFECTED CDs BE COPIED?
by bilacuda November 8, 2005 9:43 AM PST
I have used Easy CD-DA Extractor to copy EMI?s COPY CONTROLLED CDs.

http://www.poikosoft.com/

The copied discs play everywhere. I don?t know if it kills the Sony worm, but I can't risk damaging my computer and leaving it open to hackers. Arrogant Sony won't cough-up the damage.

Also see comments on Amazon with new Neil Diamond CD on Sony:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0009NSCVC/qid=1131469729/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/102-7982133-2892159?v=glance&s=music

Neil Diamond has the clout to stop this.
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Appalling!
by Mendz November 9, 2005 12:08 AM PST
Read this: http://www.grc.com/sn/SN-012.htm. Or listen to the podcast linked in the same page. Sony is agreeably appalling! They should've been more responsible.
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Lack of DRM expiration = Unconstitutional
by ArbitraryThinker November 10, 2005 11:42 AM PST
The combination of DRM, the DMCA, and the lack of a system to expire copyright is clearly unconstitutional. Copyrights are granted for a limited time. The DMCA makes circumvention illegal and the encryption systems in use do not expire when the copyright expires. Therefore the copyright effectively never expires and fair use cannot occur.
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EMI discs DO have hidden processes running
by monyl November 23, 2005 6:37 PM PST
Ask them for a complete list of files that their CDS-300 (from Macrovision) copy protection installs on your PC. In any case, just install Musicmatch to rip these discs - it works...
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Macrovision probably lied to EMI
by monyl November 23, 2005 6:40 PM PST
as they are struggling with share prices and redundancies at the moment. Likeley that the product manager for CD copy protection made up this bull (that apple were working on it) and EMI bought it, shame on them
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