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When it was announced early Wednesday that Carly Fiorina had been ousted as the CEO and chairman of Hewlett-Packard, message boards across the Web lit up in response. Some writers were supportive of a woman once considered among the most powerful in corporate America, but many more were vociferous in their criticism of Fiorina's tenure (and of her $21 million severance package). Here's an unedited sampling of the response from a number of places on the Web, including CNET News.com.

I used to work for Compaq under big Mike. Then after the merger left, we had Carley. She was an absolute nightmare. Thousands of people laid off. Everyone demoralized. Nobody liked going to work anymore (yes, back in the day work was exciting and the people inspired by a culture of inquisitiveness and curiosity).

Finally after surviving round after round of layoffs and being told again and again that I was next...I began to plan my future around my severance package. I was a walking zombie by that point. Everyone was. I couldn't wait to leave. It was then that evil management told me I'd be retained and my performence expectations raised three-fold.

I quit the next day.

Carley wasn't directly responsible for firing me or not; but she was directly responsible for running a campaign that sucked the life out of every free-thinking individual with a pulse in the organization.

Now that she's gorged herself on the spirit of thousands, no doubt she'll float down to another company via her golden parachute and repeat the process there.

Good riddance. Colleagues still at HP report that there is open celebration in the labs and cube-farms.

HP CEO Carly Fiorina dies, and she goes through the usual process of defending her case in front of the Divine Jury. It is not clear what happens exactly and where things go wrong, but when the jury comes back and the sentence is read, it turns out she is admitted into Heaven. So Carly is filling in the usual paperwork at the HAO's desk (Heaven Admission Officer): non-disclosure agreement, legal disclaimers, non-competition clause, etc...

'Congratulations and welcome to Heaven,' finally says the angel. 'Go down the corridor, first door on your right.'

Carly walks to the door, pushes it open... and staggers back. Through the flames and behind the door, all you can see are countless devils inflicting the most horrible tortures to screaming souls. She rushes back to the Officer and waves her admission pass, breathless. 'Must be an error, this thing here says Heaven!'

'Oh yeah,' says the angel, barely looking up from his/her screen. 'Forgot to tell you... we merged.'

Fiorina was recognized as a marketing genius at Lucent and that's why she got the job at HP. Fact is it takes more than a marketing genius to make the turnaround. HP lost its edge on innovation, plain and simple. It got obsessed with out-marketing companies like Dell, which were operating in a pure commodity model with a low cost advantage and knew how to market its brand, and also how to sell its products. Though it's true innovation in marketing is desirable to get an edge, it was clear that Fiorina didn't have it. She was using too much techno-babble to get to the CEOs of potential clients and no one else. Those CEOs were not buying it, they just cared about how much it would cost. So HP now has the option to get a true marketing genius to sell these commodities, or return to product innovations like Apple has done. But perhaps it's too late for the latter.

So she's forced out. Now she can write a book, go on speaking tours, appear on CNN, possibly serve as a lobbyist. Her career is far from over.

But she laid off tens of thousands (literally), destroyed the legacy of Digital in Compaq, turned HP into an offshoring shell, and damaged HP's reputation. Brilliant!

Her short term management style, however, is the American management style. Quarterly profits matter more than profits five years down the road. Acquire to destroy your competition, pursue that dream of oligopoly. Oh, and send as many jobs overseas as possible so you can keep your workers in line.

What must be really depressing for her is that (as of this writing) HP's stock is up more than 11 percent [yahoo.com] in pre-market trading today. That's nearly a $7 billion increase in market cap - how depressing for her. She was worth negative $7 billion to HPQ's value.

Its amazing that the higher you rise in the Corporate World, the less your performance is related to your pay-off. She has almost destroyed this company and walks with a huge pay out and you can count the days until she turns up somewhere else getting paid a fortune to screw up!!

I worked for HP for about 7 years and I left the company late last summer. HP has changed drasticly under Carly. I was telling some firends this a couple of months ago and this move proves it; this year is a make or break year for HP. If there new line of TV's and PDA's dont sell they are going to take a dive. RIP HP

Maybe fired employees should get to split her bonus. Is it too late to stop payment on the check.

If we keep firing the CEO twice every week, HPQ will reach $60/share in no time.

You about ready to find out just how much HP thinks of the moronic cpq idiots it inherited. cpq sucked then and it still sucks today. The only good thing about cpq was the prolient. Everything and I mean everything else about cpq sucks....The merger will now be deemed a failure and we will have to wash our hands and re-paint the walls to get the stench out.

It was obvious from the moment that the Compaq deal was first persued that Carly was clueless and was blindly trying to find something that would make it look like she was doing something that would justify her salary. It is amazing that it took the board this long to dump her.

She was a horrible choice. Usually you look at a resume and expect it to be an indicator of what you will get. She came from Lucent a company that was tanking. So I don't know why her performance would be a surprise, if it was why look at prior performance?

I've been sitting on 2500 shares for 4 years. No movement except down since then. It's about time for a new direction and a new leader. And NO MORE BUYOUTS. Jeez... When CPQ bought DEC it was a disaster. And then HP buys CPQ and thinned the pps.

BAAAD move. Dump the printers, keep the ribbons and toner, and move the NonStop (server) division forward.

Man, I'm hoping.

They'll have to close off Page Mill Road in Palo Alto this morning so that HP employees and "alumni" can dance in the streets, while Carly slinks off to count her multimillion dollar golden parachute. It's about time! My guess is that Mr. Wayman is just a temp during the search for a new CEO.

I knew she was a goner. I've been saying this for almost two years now. I'm sure she's a nice lady, but she never inspired confidence and confidence is what a company like HP needs on so many levels.

I appreciate that not everyone is a good public speaker, but these days that is an essential part of being CEO--especially at company like HP. Every time I listened to Carly, I felt like I was watching someone in a junior high communications class: nervous, unsure of herself, not in command of her facts (even when she was), unable to connect with her audience, etc. This is not acceptable in a CEO.

I'd like to think she knew what she was doing behind closed doors, but if she did, it had yet to show itself in products and services.

No need to feel sorry for her though. I'm sure her contract will ensure she is well provided for. In addition, she is CEO material--but not right for HP.

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As a former HP employee (laid off after 7 years of service 3 months ago), I can safely say HP will be better off without her. The "OLD" HP was a company of closely knit individuals with a collective sense of community and kinship with the company and it's employees. It was a sad day when I found out that the company I loved and admired both before I was employed with them and during my employment, had stuck a stake in my back as a reward for my dedication to the company. After nearly 4 years without employee raises (although the board got theirs), countless lay-offs, and the oblitteration of the "HP way", I feel relieved that I was laid off. My severance package and new job have brought me a better quality of life. Change isn't always bad everyone kept telling me and at the time I really didn't believe them. They were right. I still keep in touch with others still at HP that report the lay offs are continuing, the morale is at an all time low, and everyone is waiting for their pink slip. Some of them are asking me if my new company is hiring...

I will no longer be upset about HP's decision to let me go as I have gone on to better things. I no longer love HP as I once did and neither do it's current employees. It has become just another cut-throut company out to please only one group of people...the stock holders.
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HP blew it big time and Carley led the way.
I spent 26 years with DEC/COMPAQ/HP.

Most of that time was in Field Service, which I consider Feild Service in the world. When Copaq bought DEC it was for its services and enterprise group, which COMPAQ was wise enough to leave alone.

Then came HP, they have ruined the services group, they have no idea how to run services, other than out the door. Storage speaks for its self, again a world class group ruined, alot of the storage engineers are from the DEC days. But they can't work the way the use to, engineers should be allowed to create. The HP way is top down.

Alot of service customers that DEC had spent years working with have left and gotten services else where, why? Because HP didn't care about them. HP wanted the hight profile contract that brought in Billions, they let the small accounts go and didn't try to sign them.

HP just didn't care if a customer left.
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HP ~ Use the "Best" Talents "Not" HP'iers
I am glad to see Fiorina departure, I am an ex-HP employee from pre-merger Compaq. Since the 1st day of the merger, all pre-merger Compaq stafffs are labeled as "red" staffs and this was how HP differentiate us during the re-organization exercise.

Through some of my ex-colleages, I was told that many key positions are filled by the HP'iers not base on their capability, experience or credibility but base on their pre-merger status ..... a HP'ier, many best practices from Compaq were abandon cos the business heads were running by HP'iers.

It is not surprise HP is heading nowhere in the past 3 years. The wall between the two pre-merger companies staffs have to be torn down, start using the best talents only. Even the new CEO may not able to help the company to turn around if HP continue to run this way.
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I too am a fallout of, "The Carley Years". I worked at Hewlett-Packard (HP) for 35 Years. The most enjoyable years of my life. Yeah, we had some really bad times, but NOBODY was EVER LAID OFF/WFR'd. I fully expected to work until I decided to retire, not when someone told me I only had x amount of time to find another job. What a laugh. Find another job in a company that's cutting jobs. I have no idea what their criteria was. I'd just my level raised and my performance eval was shining. I have absolutely no idea. ENOUGH, I spent 1.5 years looking for work. I'm sure, but wasn't told, my age played a big percentage. What I was being told is I'm, "Over-Qualified". What a bunch of crap. I saw a company of innovative, positive people. With Great attitudes, trampled. I'll never forget her BIG SPEACH on the Roseville, California Campus. How Prode she was to be working with such wonderful people in such a great company. Little did we know in the back of that mind was destruction. Yes, the company needed to dust off and shake some cobwebs but through technology, NOT the media. I'm now back at HP as a Temp. What a trip. I get a good feeling about the new CEO Mark Hurd, but time will tell.
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I too am a fallout of, "The Carley Years". I worked at Hewlett-Packard (HP) for 35 Years. The most enjoyable years of my life. Yeah, we had some really bad times, but NOBODY was EVER LAID OFF/WFR'd. I fully expected to work until I decided to retire, not when someone told me I only had x amount of time to find another job. What a laugh. Find another job in a company that's cutting jobs. I have no idea what their criteria was. I'd just received P.E., my level raised and my performance eval was shining. I have absolutely no idea. ENOUGH.

I spent 1.5 years looking for work. I'm sure, but wasn't told, my age played a big percentage. What I was being told is I'm, "Over-Qualified". What a bunch of crap. I saw a company of innovative, positive people, With Great attitudes, trampled. I'll never forget her BIG SPEACH on the Roseville, California Campus. How Proud she was to be working with such wonderful people in such a great company. Little did we know in the back of that mind was destruction. Yes, the company needed to dust off and shake some cobwebs but through technology, NOT the media. I'm now back at HP as a Temp. What a trip. I get a good feeling about the new CEO Mark Hurd, but time will tell.
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I too am a fallout of, "The Carley Years". I worked at Hewlett-Packard (HP) for 35 Years. The most enjoyable years of my life. Yeah, we had some really bad times, but NOBODY was EVER LAID OFF/WFR'd. I fully expected to work until I decided to retire, not when someone told me I only had x amount of time to find another job. What a laugh. Find another job in a company that's cutting jobs. I have no idea what their criteria was. I'd just received my P.E., my level raised and my performance eval was shining. I have absolutely no idea. ENOUGH.

I spent 1.5 years looking for work. I'm sure, but wasn't told, my age played a big percentage. What I was being told is I'm, "Over-Qualified". What a bunch of crap. I saw a company of innovative, positive people, With Great attitudes, trampled. I'll never forget her BIG SPEACH on the Roseville, California Campus. How Proud she was to be working with such wonderful people in such a great company. Little did we know in the back of that mind was destruction. Yes, the company needed to dust off and shake some cobwebs but through technology, NOT the media. I'm now back at HP as a Temp. What a trip. I get a good feeling about the new CEO Mark Hurd, but time will tell.
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