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By Jim Hu
and
Marguerite Reardon
Staff Writers, CNET News.com
May 2, 2005 4:00 AM PDT
A hundred years ago, when Louisiana was still literally in the dark, residents of Lafayette banded together to build a city-owned electric utility where once there was little more than swampland. Today, at the dawn of the 21st century, it is hatching plans to lay out its own state-of-the-art fiber-optic broadband network.
This time, the city's futuristic ambitions are challenged not by the rigors of geography but by obstacles of business: specifically, telecommunications giant BellSouth and cable provider Cox Communications, which claimed the region as their own years ago. But the historic coastal community, known for its eclectic culture and rhythmic zydeco music, is not about to abandon the pioneering spirit that begat its visionary reputation.
After a legal skirmish earlier this year, the two sides are preparing for a citywide election slated for mid-July that will decide the issue.
"The people of Lafayette feel like there is a history of seizing the initiative," said John St. Julien, a member of Lafayette Coming Together, a citizens group supporting the fiber network. "Our Creole and Cajun communities have always been told by outsiders that everything we did was wrong--from our language to the food we eat. Culturally, we've learned not to care what others think or say about us. I think it gives us a place to stand when companies like BellSouth and Cox come in and tell us we can't do something."
Across the country, acrimonious conflicts have erupted as local governments attempt to create publicly funded broadband services with faster connections and cheaper rates for all citizens, narrowing the so-called digital divide. The Bells and cable companies, for their part, argue that government intervention in their business is not justified and say they are far better equipped to operate complex and far-flung data networks.
As part of this special report, CNET News.com has created an interactive municipal broadband legislative map that details the major battlegrounds on the issue. At stake is the fate of high-speed Internet access for millions of Americans, hinging on a fundamental question of civics and economics--whether the government or private industries should take the leading role in building out what's considered this generation's critical infrastructure challenge.
"Is broadband fast food, or is it power?" said Doug Lichtman, a professor at the University of Chicago Law School. "The answer might be: 'We don't know. Let's experiment with it.' It might give us great information about what risks the government assumes, once it gets into it."
In some cases, local governments have simply stepped into a vacuum left by commercial providers that have proved slow or unwilling to bring broadband to their residents. But the situation has grown more complicated with public broadband proposals in major cities already served by private industry. These projects highlight a growing conviction that broadband is not merely a luxury of modern urban life, but rather an essential public service that could increase tourism and commerce while squeezing new efficiencies from services such as health care, education and even sanitation.
Despite the technology's youth, the dynamics over its control are as old as the nation itself. Governments and private businesses have long quarreled over who should control the build-out of highways, canals, railroads, the postal system and telephone networks. Oftentimes, what begins as a project of one side eventually falls into the hands of the other: The railroad system was first constructed by private companies but is now controlled largely by the federal government, while the postal system is run by Washington but faces stiff competition from private couriers such as FedEx and United Parcel Service of America.
Philadelphia is an early high-profile litmus test for whether cities and broadband are a good mix. As is the goal with many municipal projects, the city hopes that its planned wireless broadband network will put it on the map as one of the most technologically advanced cities in the world.
In April, city officials unveiled an ambitious plan to blanket Philadelphia's 135-square-mile area with wireless broadband, or Wi-Fi, access. Officials hope the network will attract tourists and businesses, while providing affordable broadband access to underprivileged residents. The service could cost as little as $20 a month, which is cheaper than local phone company Verizon Communications' rate of $30.
Not surprisingly, Verizon has fought fiercely against the plan. The Baby Bell successfully helped shepherd a state bill that bans any city in Pennsylvania from pursuing similar projects without Verizon's input.
State activity
Verizon isn't the only one taking the legislative route. Other Bells and cable companies have thrown their
weight behind similar state bills that bar municipalities from building networks. Twenty states have already passed, or are trying
to push through, legislation that would impose heavy restrictions on communities creating their own networks in areas already served by Bells
and cable companies.
Thirteen of those states--Arkansas, Florida, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia and Washington--have passed bills restricting future public broadband projects, though existing initiatives are allowed to operate. The remaining eight have measures pending or have seen their bills fail to reach a vote.
The debate has become contentious, sparking heated opinions over how the nation can become a global leader in broadband. Critics of the state of U.S. broadband penetration cite the nation's ranking below Japan, Korea and Norway, to name a few. But telecommunications giants say broadband adoption continues to skyrocket and that competition remains healthy.
The origins of the conflict date back to the late 1990s, when the Bells and cable giants were just beginning to dip their toes in the broadband stream. Cities eager for high-speed networks faced frustrating delays, particularly in rural centers where the phone and cable companies faced the prospects of heavy costs and slim returns.
The story has changed dramatically in some ways since then. The Bells and cable giants are fighting a fierce war over broadband among Americans, prompting the local phone companies to lower prices, and cable providers to nearly double download speeds, over the past two years.
Within the next 12 months, Verizon and SBC Communications expect to launch their own pay TV services, to put more competitive pressure on cable companies. In late April, Verizon said it would sell to some customers DSL access without requiring people to buy a local phone line--a longtime demand from consumer groups.
Providers are also trying to add bells and whistles to the basic data pipe into the home. Some of the phone carriers, including Verizon and SBC, have partnered with Web portals Yahoo or MSN, or both. Cable giant Comcast runs its own broadband portal, which emphasizes high-bandwidth features such as video clips and video e-mail. Time Warner Cable's Road Runner service comes packaged with America Online.
"Broadband services are maturing enough where it's not just high-speed access to the Internet," said Mike Paxton, an analyst at In-Stat. "There's a lot more that can be done with a broadband connection now than in the past, and that is very attractive and beneficial to consumers."
Appealing to the states
The stakes for the winners are huge. So it's hardly a surprise that the Bells and cable companies are lobbying hard to keep government out of the race. They're working to support antimunicipal broadband bills at the state level and funding publicity campaigns to squash these projects. The message: Local governments should not compete against private industries, which have spent billions of dollars on infrastructure to serve residents and on city taxes.
The industry also argues that governments are in over their heads when they try to operate a complex citywide network. And if the city's plans go belly-up, opponents say residents will have to bail out the projects through higher tax bills.
"Our major focus--either through the legislative branch or through working with regulators--is to make sure...we have provisions in place that the resulting competition that we engage with is fair," BellSouth spokesman Joe Chandler said.
Fairness in the eyes of the Bells means implementing a series of "safeguards," according to Chandler. These include barring cities from using taxes to fund their ventures; requiring city networks to pay the same taxes as private companies; and requiring the public to vote on proposals before construction.
Many cities claim that they are not competing against the Bells and cable but rather are serving their communities. Legal experts wonder whether municipalities are addressing legitimate problems ignored by the telecoms, or whether they are trying stifle competition.
"I worry about the political economics of it," said Matthew Spitzer, Dean of the University of Southern California Law School. "Once the city gets into a business that's directly competitive with private companies, there are temptations to regulate the private companies in ways that disadvantage them."
What are cities doing?
Many communities remain undeterred. Larger cities such as Philadelphia and Chicago claim broadband is too expensive for lower-income residents.
In March, officials in Chicago threw down the gauntlet against the state of Illinois when they announced plans to consider blanketing the entire metropolis with Wi-Fi. Just as in Philadelphia and Lafayette, lawmakers promoting this plan think that cheap broadband is good for residents and offers an additional source of revenue for city coffers.
"It's our responsibility to protect the interests of citizens of Chicago, and if we feel a Wi-Fi system would open up opportunities to provide cheaper access, why wouldn't we examine it, and why should we be told by Springfield that we can't?" said Donal Quinlan, a spokesman for Chicago Alderman Edward Burke.
Smaller communities such as Scottsburg, Ind., and Lafayette hope that citywide broadband systems will attract more businesses and spark entrepreneurship.
Lafayette's economy over the last century has been tied to the oil industry. But as oil reserves in the Gulf of Mexico run down, city leaders recognize that they need to attract new industries to the community to sustain growth. A fiber-based broadband network could help attract manufacturing-design companies and software developers, said Kaliste Saloom, an attorney in Lafayette who organized the Lafayette Yes political action group to campaign for the new fiber network.
"We have a great computer science program right here in Lafayette at the University of Louisiana," he said. "So we already have the talent. If we have the high-speed broadband network, it would be easy for companies to tap that resource and open development facilities here."
Then there's the string of cities hugging Utah's Great Salt Lake that have begun constructing a fiber-optic network. Called the Utah Telecommunication Open Infrastructure Agency, the project aims to pipe video, phone service and broadband Internet access into peoples' homes. Organizers draw analogies to airports, for which governments fund facilities and private companies operate their businesses using the space.
Utopia's executive director, Paul Morris, told an audience at the Voice on the Net conference this month that the project has already attracted some private companies, including AT&T. One Utah-based ISP plans to begin offering 10 megabits per second of broadband speed for $39.95 a month. Cable broadband at less than half that speed costs about $45 a month, while many cheaper DSL services from the Bells provide 1.5mbps at the base service tier.
"We were concerned we were being left behind," Morris said. "We wanted to lure businesses and nurture them in Utah, and we didn't see
that happening for us."
I guess this just continues the 200-year American trend of local governments having their power sapped by larger and more impersonal legislative entities -- including corporations, the fourth branch of USA, Inc.
I would NOT want the same people who toss books out of public libraries deciding what uses are permissible across a city broadband network.
Remember: broadband involves a great deal of activity that is essentially private. I think that goverment-supported services that involve my communication and reading habits are not something I would want done by the same local politicians who are influenced by a local preacher who wants a dry county or a ladies' club that regulates what color you paint your house.
The very fact that, as the article points out, local government is closer to the "interests" of citizens is the dangerous fact: "interests of citizens" have been known to be the interests of "lynch mobs".
If you are not in the industry you don't have the
knowledge to argue. Local governments hold many ILEC projects back .
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- i.e. internet access via your power outlet on your wall. It is
currently implemented and being tested in several cities, Menlo
Park, CA being one of them. Why was BPL left out?
The greed factor encouraged by monopolistic cable company pricing for broadband is digging their own grave, and I for one would like to help hold the shovel.
And all this is so unnecessary if only the local governments and regulators would force competitive access. We could have Broadbvand AND cable service at reasonable pricing, not the profiteering that monopolistic companies have enjoyed.
Why can't we learn from our past mistakes; whenever we open up competition we get more services for less money. Is that so hard to understand, or do IQ's go down when you are elected to public office or appointed as a regulator?
Seriously, folks I'm not kidding. It would make you laugh if it wasn't so darn frustrating. Over and over again, regulators and public officaisl take the contributions and then screw the citizens in the process.
I hope the municipalities win this one, if only to punish the cable companies. They certainly won't charge more, will manage (is that the right term?) woefully, and maybe citizens will get Broadband and other services for a reasonable price.
Cable and Telcos have had their day, and they are now, hopefully, going to pay the price for their greed. I only hope the complicit politicians who took their money get voted out as well, although I would prefer their public execution as a punishment for the hundreds of billions of dollars their comnplicity has cost consumers.
These government groups will end up wasting money in order to sell whatever service they establish in five years after finding out that it's too hard to maintain and support. Geez it's hard enough to get city workers to do their jobs pushing paper around, how about if they had to support a city wide wireless network. Good luck.
Anyways, the worst that will come of this will be government money wasted, but then again it would have been wasted nonetheless.
If you want to see how well the government does the job of the private sector compare UPS, FedEx and the post office. The post office is constantly in a budget crisis even though they pay no taxes, get gas practically for free, and don't have to pay state/municipal registration fees and airport fees for their fleet.
First, take a basic economics class and drop the piracy rhetoric. Government is the pirate class. Companies don't take a penny you don't give them. Government takes half your income no matter what you do. Who's the pirate? If the profits companies made were really so huge, competitors would flood the market until equilibrium was achieved. At any case, you, and I, and anyone else can buy the stock and share in these crazy profits. Read the Dow Jones- I don't think these companies are making the insane profits you propose they are. They also work like a dog to keep costs down, which government doesn't even care about in the least. The only real monopolies are government monopolies, like the post office, which are almost impossible to unseat, unlike companies, since the government uses its coercive power to put competitors in jail. Try starting a private company to deliver mail and see what happens! Have a lawyer ready! That's government's idea of competition. In private industry, inefficient companies fall all the time, however. (Xerox anyone?)
All taxpayers, no matter how poor, would have their money stolen from them by force (taxes)so joe average can download streaming video from ESPN? Outrageous! The government plans a savings of 10 dollars, from 30 to 20. Wow, big deal, save 10 bucks but the loss of service quality will make you wish you were paying 30 for your internet!
In real life, government run internet will actually be much, much more expensive than that, and everyone will pay, whether they use it or not. Everything the government does is inefficient. I can't even imagine calling a helpline run by city hall when my internet doesn't work. Frankly, I would pony up an additional 30 bucks on my own to NOT use DSL powered and monitored by the city!
Left unchallenged is the insane assertion that city governments can even make this work, much less make money AND keep costs down! By my house there is a tobaggan slide run by the city. They LOSE 5$ every time someone goes down the slide! This has been an unsolvable issue for YEARS! They can't even run a tobaggan slide as a business, and you want them to run a telecom business! Crazy! We need to deregulate, inject competition, and leave things the way they are. Cable internet is already competing with DSL anyway, and both are plentiful and cheap already! I have friends who don't even use DSL, and don't seem to suffer for it. and PS, I work for the city, and it is a nightmare. I just cross my fingers and hope they don't mess up my paycheck each week, and do my job and hope for the best. The thought of them running my internet connection is truly spine-chilling!
~Scott
The greed factor encouraged by monopolistic cable company pricing for broadband is digging their own grave, and I for one would like to help hold the shovel.
And all this is so unnecessary if only the local governments and regulators would force competitive access. We could have Broadbvand AND cable service at reasonable pricing, not the profiteering that monopolistic companies have enjoyed.
Why can't we learn from our past mistakes; whenever we open up competition we get more services for less money. Is that so hard to understand, or do IQ's go down when you are elected to public office or appointed as a regulator?
Seriously, folks I'm not kidding. It would make you laugh if it wasn't so darn frustrating. Over and over again, regulators and public officaisl take the contributions and then screw the citizens in the process.
I hope the municipalities win this one, if only to punish the cable companies. They certainly won't charge more, will manage (is that the right term?) woefully, and maybe citizens will get Broadband and other services for a reasonable price.
Cable and Telcos have had their day, and they are now, hopefully, going to pay the price for their greed. I only hope the complicit politicians who took their money get voted out as well, although I would prefer their public execution as a punishment for the hundreds of billions of dollars their comnplicity has cost consumers.
These government groups will end up wasting money in order to sell whatever service they establish in five years after finding out that it's too hard to maintain and support. Geez it's hard enough to get city workers to do their jobs pushing paper around, how about if they had to support a city wide wireless network. Good luck.
Anyways, the worst that will come of this will be government money wasted, but then again it would have been wasted nonetheless.
If you want to see how well the government does the job of the private sector compare UPS, FedEx and the post office. The post office is constantly in a budget crisis even though they pay no taxes, get gas practically for free, and don't have to pay state/municipal registration fees and airport fees for their fleet.
First, take a basic economics class and drop the piracy rhetoric. Government is the pirate class. Companies don't take a penny you don't give them. Government takes half your income no matter what you do. Who's the pirate? If the profits companies made were really so huge, competitors would flood the market until equilibrium was achieved. At any case, you, and I, and anyone else can buy the stock and share in these crazy profits. Read the Dow Jones- I don't think these companies are making the insane profits you propose they are. They also work like a dog to keep costs down, which government doesn't even care about in the least. The only real monopolies are government monopolies, like the post office, which are almost impossible to unseat, unlike companies, since the government uses its coercive power to put competitors in jail. Try starting a private company to deliver mail and see what happens! Have a lawyer ready! That's government's idea of competition. In private industry, inefficient companies fall all the time, however. (Xerox anyone?)
All taxpayers, no matter how poor, would have their money stolen from them by force (taxes)so joe average can download streaming video from ESPN? Outrageous! The government plans a savings of 10 dollars, from 30 to 20. Wow, big deal, save 10 bucks but the loss of service quality will make you wish you were paying 30 for your internet!
In real life, government run internet will actually be much, much more expensive than that, and everyone will pay, whether they use it or not. Everything the government does is inefficient. I can't even imagine calling a helpline run by city hall when my internet doesn't work. Frankly, I would pony up an additional 30 bucks on my own to NOT use DSL powered and monitored by the city!
Left unchallenged is the insane assertion that city governments can even make this work, much less make money AND keep costs down! By my house there is a tobaggan slide run by the city. They LOSE 5$ every time someone goes down the slide! This has been an unsolvable issue for YEARS! They can't even run a tobaggan slide as a business, and you want them to run a telecom business! Crazy! We need to deregulate, inject competition, and leave things the way they are. Cable internet is already competing with DSL anyway, and both are plentiful and cheap already! I have friends who don't even use DSL, and don't seem to suffer for it. and PS, I work for the city, and it is a nightmare. I just cross my fingers and hope they don't mess up my paycheck each week, and do my job and hope for the best. The thought of them running my internet connection is truly spine-chilling!
~Scott
I don't think there's any question that internet access is becoming more and more of a requirement in society today, and less of a luxury or convenience. This is similar to phone service.
However, cities have messed it up in the past by granting monopoies to cable and phone providers. They should not make the same mistake here.
Here's my idea of how it should work
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1. The government funds the construction of something like a city-wide Wi-Max network up front.
2. The government allows private companies to become an ISP to the end consumer for use of the network.
3. These private business pay a per-customer fee to the local government, or possibly a fee based on how much bandwidth they use. This causes the network to pay for itself. The biggest ISPs pay for the biggest share of the network, and the smaller ones pay less. This is HOW IT SHOULD BE.
Result? You have competition AND the consumers win by getting the best prices and a city-sponsored Wi-Max network at their disposal.
What is so damn hard about this concept? Apparently none of the offials have figured it out....
This must be a Public Private Network, with private entity (ies) paying for the build out and operation of the network. The Private entity are guaranteed all the Municipalities Wireless business for length of contract, to include Data and eventually all VoiceIP traffic. COntract should be for a minumum of 5 years to allow sufficient ROI.
Rule # 1: ACCESS(fees) must be separate from SERVICES (Internet etc) on all invoices to users. This allows for a more robust packaging program to all private users and opens up a great number of possibilities for the Public sector to address their underserved users. Example: City can set and cover (pay) the ACCESS fee (with Private partner)for these folks and the user can sign up for and pay for the Service based on bandwith they can afford.
SPecial arrangements for Police/Fire/EMT etc.
Municipality will own the new Licensed 4.9 Spectrum that will ride over this private infrastructure and they will pay a flat monthly discounted usage (Access) fee based on MegBits used/Month. Above that Muni. will also pay for any Services they want to use-Internet, Firewall/Security/VPN etc. over this and their regular Unlicensed access.
Muni and Private owner will develop special incentive package (Access fees) to encourage new companies/org to move to and open up office in City.
Muni will make all its infrastructure (Poles and roof rights) available to the network for its use in deploying the netwoork.
Many more options.
Jacomo
some other entity, somewhere possibly far away, would own the
wire that goes from my house or business, to the wires that
connect everybody who is nearby's houses and businesses.
Seems like the town should own them. When it comes to
providing internet connectivity to the rest of the world, that
should come from an ISP, just like Anthony says.
Whatever the possibilities, consumers and businesses always
benefit by having choice and competition. Without choice,
consumers are at the mercy of the market. And without
competition, suppliers have no need to innovate, and when they
stop innovating, workers stop enjoying their jobs, causing the
company to languish. Finally, when a competitor steps in, the
company is in jeopardy.
The nice thing about technology is its flexibility. Technology
(connectivity included) can be tailored, configured, customized
to fit EVERY need. Therefore, where a business wants high
margins, and a municipal wants equal, affordable, access by all
its citizens, both providers can survive. The local widget factory
will need an SLA (service level agreement) to ensure their
relationship with Walmart, and the local library (or the family of
four who's primary breadwinner was killed in a car accident -
and whose kids dont buy crack or ringtones) wants low cost
access, bottom line.
I don't think there's any question that internet access is becoming more and more of a requirement in society today, and less of a luxury or convenience. This is similar to phone service.
However, cities have messed it up in the past by granting monopoies to cable and phone providers. They should not make the same mistake here.
Here's my idea of how it should work
-------------------------------------
1. The government funds the construction of something like a city-wide Wi-Max network up front.
2. The government allows private companies to become an ISP to the end consumer for use of the network.
3. These private business pay a per-customer fee to the local government, or possibly a fee based on how much bandwidth they use. This causes the network to pay for itself. The biggest ISPs pay for the biggest share of the network, and the smaller ones pay less. This is HOW IT SHOULD BE.
Result? You have competition AND the consumers win by getting the best prices and a city-sponsored Wi-Max network at their disposal.
What is so damn hard about this concept? Apparently none of the offials have figured it out....
This must be a Public Private Network, with private entity (ies) paying for the build out and operation of the network. The Private entity are guaranteed all the Municipalities Wireless business for length of contract, to include Data and eventually all VoiceIP traffic. COntract should be for a minumum of 5 years to allow sufficient ROI.
Rule # 1: ACCESS(fees) must be separate from SERVICES (Internet etc) on all invoices to users. This allows for a more robust packaging program to all private users and opens up a great number of possibilities for the Public sector to address their underserved users. Example: City can set and cover (pay) the ACCESS fee (with Private partner)for these folks and the user can sign up for and pay for the Service based on bandwith they can afford.
SPecial arrangements for Police/Fire/EMT etc.
Municipality will own the new Licensed 4.9 Spectrum that will ride over this private infrastructure and they will pay a flat monthly discounted usage (Access) fee based on MegBits used/Month. Above that Muni. will also pay for any Services they want to use-Internet, Firewall/Security/VPN etc. over this and their regular Unlicensed access.
Muni and Private owner will develop special incentive package (Access fees) to encourage new companies/org to move to and open up office in City.
Muni will make all its infrastructure (Poles and roof rights) available to the network for its use in deploying the netwoork.
Many more options.
Jacomo
some other entity, somewhere possibly far away, would own the
wire that goes from my house or business, to the wires that
connect everybody who is nearby's houses and businesses.
Seems like the town should own them. When it comes to
providing internet connectivity to the rest of the world, that
should come from an ISP, just like Anthony says.
Whatever the possibilities, consumers and businesses always
benefit by having choice and competition. Without choice,
consumers are at the mercy of the market. And without
competition, suppliers have no need to innovate, and when they
stop innovating, workers stop enjoying their jobs, causing the
company to languish. Finally, when a competitor steps in, the
company is in jeopardy.
The nice thing about technology is its flexibility. Technology
(connectivity included) can be tailored, configured, customized
to fit EVERY need. Therefore, where a business wants high
margins, and a municipal wants equal, affordable, access by all
its citizens, both providers can survive. The local widget factory
will need an SLA (service level agreement) to ensure their
relationship with Walmart, and the local library (or the family of
four who's primary breadwinner was killed in a car accident -
and whose kids dont buy crack or ringtones) wants low cost
access, bottom line.
Cornerstone of his platform is to prove free wireless broadband to NYC. Check out an article in New York Magazine that appeared today: <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.nymagazine.com/nymetro/news/people/columns/intelligencer/11900/index.html" target="_newWindow">http://www.nymagazine.com/nymetro/news/people/columns/intelligencer/11900/index.html</a>
Here's Rasiej's website -- looks like Google. Check it out: www.advocatesforrasiej.com
Cornerstone of his platform is to prove free wireless broadband to NYC. Check out an article in New York Magazine that appeared today: <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.nymagazine.com/nymetro/news/people/columns/intelligencer/11900/index.html" target="_newWindow">http://www.nymagazine.com/nymetro/news/people/columns/intelligencer/11900/index.html</a>
Here's Rasiej's website -- looks like Google. Check it out: www.advocatesforrasiej.com
I live on the outskirts of a city in West Virginia. On our road, there are two cable providers; one services the homes on the "upper" end of the road, the other services the homes on the "lower" end. The first provider (Charter) offers broadband, the second provider (Community Antenna Service) does not in our area (though in other areas around town that they service, they do have broadband). We live near the divide between the two companies territory. Charter will not extend their line the additional 1/4 mile or so to reach our lot. CAS, who services our lot, tells me that they have no plans to ever upgrade our "loop" to digital. So no broadband from the cable companies is available at our house.
The CO our phone service comes from offers DSL, and we live within the distance restrictions for DSL, but our service is on fiber from the CO to the head of our road, and Verizon refuses to upgrade the equipment that goes from optical fiber to copper to support DSL, and their customer service department tells me that they have no future plans to do so, but tries to sell me ISDN service, which is both slower and far more expensive than DSL.
There is also a wireless internet company in the area, but they are on the Ohio side of the river, and we're on the wrong side of several large hills. Line of sight transmissions do not fare well when the transmitting antenna is at a lower elevation than the hills between you and it.
I believe that, if business wants municiple governments to stay out of their arena, they must be willing to extend their service to those who are not convenient to serve.
I live on the outskirts of a city in West Virginia. On our road, there are two cable providers; one services the homes on the "upper" end of the road, the other services the homes on the "lower" end. The first provider (Charter) offers broadband, the second provider (Community Antenna Service) does not in our area (though in other areas around town that they service, they do have broadband). We live near the divide between the two companies territory. Charter will not extend their line the additional 1/4 mile or so to reach our lot. CAS, who services our lot, tells me that they have no plans to ever upgrade our "loop" to digital. So no broadband from the cable companies is available at our house.
The CO our phone service comes from offers DSL, and we live within the distance restrictions for DSL, but our service is on fiber from the CO to the head of our road, and Verizon refuses to upgrade the equipment that goes from optical fiber to copper to support DSL, and their customer service department tells me that they have no future plans to do so, but tries to sell me ISDN service, which is both slower and far more expensive than DSL.
There is also a wireless internet company in the area, but they are on the Ohio side of the river, and we're on the wrong side of several large hills. Line of sight transmissions do not fare well when the transmitting antenna is at a lower elevation than the hills between you and it.
I believe that, if business wants municiple governments to stay out of their arena, they must be willing to extend their service to those who are not convenient to serve.
We lag behind the world in getting the technology out to the public. Communication companies arent happy about local and other levels of government getting into what is seen by them as strictly business. Yet they treat the technology not as something vital to the long-term interests of the country, or a utility, but as just another means to squeeze money out of people. I think the argument can be sufficiently made that it is first a matter of local right and choice to offer whatever services a municipality wants. After that is done, if the communications companies dont like it, tough. They will fight to keep competition off their networks, from duplicating services using different technology, and then take advantage of near monopolies to raise prices. Yet if somebody suggests an even playing field they freak out.
Creating Shareholder Value, is allowing the rest of the world to shoot the moon, while we remain in the stone age. And Im the last person that argues against corporate rights.
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That the cities will manage this poorly, not having the scale and expertise to adapt to a fast-moving market. If you think telcos moved slowly, watch government!
That subsidized (in some fashion) municipal services will focus on central or densely populated areas - exactly those where telcos and cablecos make enough margin to subside outlying areas. The lost profit may cause traditional carriers to turn to other cities or states with additional investment. So the central areas with muni service will do well for a period while outlying areas miss out on expansion/enhancement. At best.
On the other hand, if traditional suppliers don't see your town as worth the investment, go for it. Even a shaky IP infrastructure would be far better than none at all. Let's just not pretend that IP communications and water utilities have much in common.
requires updating. It used to be that someone would come to
your house and look at your meter to decide how much to
charge you, then they made it so that the information could be
transmitted, and now many are looking to use fiber optics to
transmit that information - primarily because it has such a low
cost of maintenance. A secondary benefit of this is of course the
ability to carry broadband.
I agree - floating a bond to pay for technology that will get
outdated is a bad idea. However, if the money HAS to be spent,
why not get multiple benefits from it?
But it doesn't HAVE to be that way, and won't always be that way. Some cities will do it very well, and very efficiently, and it will be a great investment for them, and a great benefit to their residents.
The problem is not that all cities are going to automatically barge forward with this even if the prospects are bleak; the problem is with state laws banning cities from even having the option, which I think stinks.
That the cities will manage this poorly, not having the scale and expertise to adapt to a fast-moving market. If you think telcos moved slowly, watch government!
That subsidized (in some fashion) municipal services will focus on central or densely populated areas - exactly those where telcos and cablecos make enough margin to subside outlying areas. The lost profit may cause traditional carriers to turn to other cities or states with additional investment. So the central areas with muni service will do well for a period while outlying areas miss out on expansion/enhancement. At best.
On the other hand, if traditional suppliers don't see your town as worth the investment, go for it. Even a shaky IP infrastructure would be far better than none at all. Let's just not pretend that IP communications and water utilities have much in common.
requires updating. It used to be that someone would come to
your house and look at your meter to decide how much to
charge you, then they made it so that the information could be
transmitted, and now many are looking to use fiber optics to
transmit that information - primarily because it has such a low
cost of maintenance. A secondary benefit of this is of course the
ability to carry broadband.
I agree - floating a bond to pay for technology that will get
outdated is a bad idea. However, if the money HAS to be spent,
why not get multiple benefits from it?
But it doesn't HAVE to be that way, and won't always be that way. Some cities will do it very well, and very efficiently, and it will be a great investment for them, and a great benefit to their residents.
The problem is not that all cities are going to automatically barge forward with this even if the prospects are bleak; the problem is with state laws banning cities from even having the option, which I think stinks.
I am in Lafayette Louisiana working on bringing Fiber here... One thing that seems to be missing here in the conversation of Municiple vs. Private Business is - WE TRIED PRIVATE BUSINESS - we begged Bell South and Cox Cable for a YEAR! No go, the only thing they told us is that they would bring "FIBER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD" in the next 10 years. This is just not acceptable.
Municiple is the only way to go for us, other Cities may have the option of having a private company who wants to do this for them and sees the opportunity. We have TERRIBLE broadband access now, and the incumbants have been terribly slow to respond and slow to upgrade services.
Hope that helps in the discussion.
THANKS
Stephen Handwerk
LafayetteComingTogether.com
Why make uninformed comments? Corperations grow into areas steadily over time. They aren't in the business of going broke trying to build out areas that don't offer a good ROI. With growing, any business must still keep it's level of service high and the cost of doing business with connections to other networks, service rollouts and network maintenance cost more the bigger you get.
I'm also sick of hearing that TV, and broadband are like public utilities when they are not. Just think of all the good things you could do if you didn't sit your lazy @$$ down and watch more TV and surf more porn.
You might even be able to teach underprivledged kids how to get a leg up, get some discipline, and get somewhere, instead of giving them a way to spend more time on thier @$$es. Don't wonder why Americans are the fatest people on the planet.
Please don't kid anyone when you say it's for edjucation unless you teach them how to use a pc safely and correctly- they'll be playing games or downloading/sharing music and spreading viruses causing the network to slow down worse than everyone coming home to check thier email.
Basically anyone that stands to make $$$ of this project will try to argue every point in thier favor.
I'm not buying into any of it, I won't be paying for it and those in office will be wise to spend thier time fixing the real problems the citizens are complaining about instead of how to make America into the new socialist republic. I mean let's all think really hard about what our government is elected to do. If they can't fix the current issues facing them, they'll never be able to fix something as complex as a fiber network.
//EOR
I am in Lafayette Louisiana working on bringing Fiber here... One thing that seems to be missing here in the conversation of Municiple vs. Private Business is - WE TRIED PRIVATE BUSINESS - we begged Bell South and Cox Cable for a YEAR! No go, the only thing they told us is that they would bring "FIBER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD" in the next 10 years. This is just not acceptable.
Municiple is the only way to go for us, other Cities may have the option of having a private company who wants to do this for them and sees the opportunity. We have TERRIBLE broadband access now, and the incumbants have been terribly slow to respond and slow to upgrade services.
Hope that helps in the discussion.
THANKS
Stephen Handwerk
LafayetteComingTogether.com
Why make uninformed comments? Corperations grow into areas steadily over time. They aren't in the business of going broke trying to build out areas that don't offer a good ROI. With growing, any business must still keep it's level of service high and the cost of doing business with connections to other networks, service rollouts and network maintenance cost more the bigger you get.
I'm also sick of hearing that TV, and broadband are like public utilities when they are not. Just think of all the good things you could do if you didn't sit your lazy @$$ down and watch more TV and surf more porn.
You might even be able to teach underprivledged kids how to get a leg up, get some discipline, and get somewhere, instead of giving them a way to spend more time on thier @$$es. Don't wonder why Americans are the fatest people on the planet.
Please don't kid anyone when you say it's for edjucation unless you teach them how to use a pc safely and correctly- they'll be playing games or downloading/sharing music and spreading viruses causing the network to slow down worse than everyone coming home to check thier email.
Basically anyone that stands to make $$$ of this project will try to argue every point in thier favor.
I'm not buying into any of it, I won't be paying for it and those in office will be wise to spend thier time fixing the real problems the citizens are complaining about instead of how to make America into the new socialist republic. I mean let's all think really hard about what our government is elected to do. If they can't fix the current issues facing them, they'll never be able to fix something as complex as a fiber network.
//EOR
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BPL is not shut down in all of the cities where it has been tried, though.
For more information on BPL, see <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.arrl.org/bpl" target="_newWindow">http://www.arrl.org/bpl</a>
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BPL is not shut down in all of the cities where it has been tried, though.
For more information on BPL, see <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.arrl.org/bpl" target="_newWindow">http://www.arrl.org/bpl</a>
Ed Hare