Chicago moving to 'smart' surveillance cameras

An advanced system of video surveillance will alert Chicago police whenever anyone viewed by the cameras acts suspiciously.
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Astounding Arrogance!

"We're not inside your home or your business," Mayor Daley said. "The city owns the sidewalks. We own the streets and we own the alleys."

What Arrogance!

Who is this "we" he is talking about?

The Mayor thinks he and his buddies own the city, but he really is nothing more than a hired manager -- a servant to the people of Chicago who really do own the streets and sidewalks.

Vote this clown out!

Astounding Arrogance!

"We're not inside your home or your business," Mayor Daley said. "The city owns the sidewalks. We own the streets and we own the alleys."

What Arrogance!

Who is this "we" he is talking about?

The Mayor thinks he and his buddies own the city, but he really is nothing more than a hired manager -- a servant to the people of Chicago who really do own the streets and sidewalks.

Vote this clown out!

Surveilance in Chicago

"We're not inside your home or your business," Mayor Daley said. "The city owns the sidewalks. We own the streets and we own the alleys."

This is arrogance. Citizens of Chicago own city facilities, not the city government. I guess Daly doesn't get it yet. Probably never will

Surveilance in Chicago

"We're not inside your home or your business," Mayor Daley said. "The city owns the sidewalks. We own the streets and we own the alleys."

This is arrogance. Citizens of Chicago own city facilities, not the city government. I guess Daly doesn't get it yet. Probably never will

Chicago should be ashamed this is about JOBS

This is about jobs, not a response to terror. If Chicago provided its citizens enough jobs, they wouldn't be committing so much crime and let's not forget how many police officers they WONT be hiring to walk the beat since their job is taken by a crappy little camera that was assembled by slave labor in some 3rd world country. I strongly urge every resident of chicago to destroy these cameras as soon as they are put up and stop this attempt to recreate the sick environment of the book 1984.
Using technology to crush the poor when they revolt against their slave masters is beyond sickening, it's outrageous.

Chicago should be ashamed this is about JOBS

This is about jobs, not a response to terror. If Chicago provided its citizens enough jobs, they wouldn't be committing so much crime and let's not forget how many police officers they WONT be hiring to walk the beat since their job is taken by a crappy little camera that was assembled by slave labor in some 3rd world country. I strongly urge every resident of chicago to destroy these cameras as soon as they are put up and stop this attempt to recreate the sick environment of the book 1984.
Using technology to crush the poor when they revolt against their slave masters is beyond sickening, it's outrageous.

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Invasion By Chicago

Welcome Big Brother; and his name is Richard Daley II!!

Invasion By Chicago

Welcome Big Brother; and his name is Richard Daley II!!

'Smart' yeah...ok

Let me ask the genious mayor how a video camera is going to stop a suicide bomber? I think Big Brother should focus more on the real issues of fighting terrorism rather than putting cameras everywhere.

'Smart' yeah...ok

Let me ask the genious mayor how a video camera is going to stop a suicide bomber? I think Big Brother should focus more on the real issues of fighting terrorism rather than putting cameras everywhere.

Good News for Tax Payers!

Good News for the taxpayers of Chicago! The cameras can be connected using UTP wiring and the Nitek products for fiber quality video. Nitek, based in Rolling Meadows, can supply the transmitters and receivers for up to 10 miles of quality video and PTZ control.

Utilizing current infrastructure consisting of telephone wire and adding additional UTP where needed, will save $$$$$MONEY!!!

See www.nitek.net

Good News for Tax Payers!

Good News for the taxpayers of Chicago! The cameras can be connected using UTP wiring and the Nitek products for fiber quality video. Nitek, based in Rolling Meadows, can supply the transmitters and receivers for up to 10 miles of quality video and PTZ control.

Utilizing current infrastructure consisting of telephone wire and adding additional UTP where needed, will save $$$$$MONEY!!!

See www.nitek.net

Ignorance Defined

Let?s talk about ignorance for a second, the definition of ignorance: lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified. After reading your responses I would have to say you are ignorant about CCTV systems. Looking at the system which Mayor Daily is looking to install would offer the cities residence critical data which would help to control situations and apprehend criminal after a crime is committed. It would be foolish to think a simple CCTV camera would prevent a crime from occurring and in most cases it will not, but if your spouse stopped late one evening to get fuel and was mugged or even worse murdered, chances are no one would or could have prevented this. Through the use of CCTV cameras the data could be invaluable to get the identification of the person(s) involved, the vehicles he/she was driving, along with the time and date of occurrence. Lets discuss the cities police force. The cameras are not intended to replace police officers but to make them more efficient. A camera would transmit video images back to a control center, a dissipater could then relay critical information to responding officers as to the status of the situation, and if back up would be required. This helps the people safe who are looking out for your safety. What about illegal activity, when was the last time you went out of your way and risked your safety for a fellow Chicagoan? Car alarms are chirping like crickets in Chicago and no one even notices. Drug dealers gathering on corners, school playgrounds, and back alleys, you have seen them, have you tried to stop them? Most people are afraid and will not do anything to stop this from happening. If there were cameras mounted in these alleys, playgrounds, and corners they would be seen, and they would be seen by people who could stop them, not look the other way in fear. Talk about a great asset to assist police and get to the hot spots and prevent crime. A camera is not simply a camera, they are linked to data bases, police laptops, other national agency?s, FBI, CIA, ATF, etc. These tools will aid in your safety. I have never heard anyone say I will never shop at that store because they have cameras. Or I do not bank there I believe they have to much surveillance. If you are outside you will be seen by anyone else on that street, why does it matter if a camera sees you? The people who complain about surveillance cameras have something to hide, What are you hiding?

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

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The problem is..

The problem is that it wont really deter crime, only move it.

Drug dealer Joe: All of downtown is wired with cameras where are we going to sell our product?
Supplier Bob: The suburbs of course.

Lets not forget how much harder this makes things for terrorists too:
Before cameras - Place bomb, run
After cameras - Cut wire, place bomb, run

Think Im going to buy stock in a wirecutter manufacturer.

Ignorance Defined

Let?s talk about ignorance for a second, the definition of ignorance: lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified. After reading your responses I would have to say you are ignorant about CCTV systems. Looking at the system which Mayor Daily is looking to install would offer the cities residence critical data which would help to control situations and apprehend criminal after a crime is committed. It would be foolish to think a simple CCTV camera would prevent a crime from occurring and in most cases it will not, but if your spouse stopped late one evening to get fuel and was mugged or even worse murdered, chances are no one would or could have prevented this. Through the use of CCTV cameras the data could be invaluable to get the identification of the person(s) involved, the vehicles he/she was driving, along with the time and date of occurrence. Lets discuss the cities police force. The cameras are not intended to replace police officers but to make them more efficient. A camera would transmit video images back to a control center, a dissipater could then relay critical information to responding officers as to the status of the situation, and if back up would be required. This helps the people safe who are looking out for your safety. What about illegal activity, when was the last time you went out of your way and risked your safety for a fellow Chicagoan? Car alarms are chirping like crickets in Chicago and no one even notices. Drug dealers gathering on corners, school playgrounds, and back alleys, you have seen them, have you tried to stop them? Most people are afraid and will not do anything to stop this from happening. If there were cameras mounted in these alleys, playgrounds, and corners they would be seen, and they would be seen by people who could stop them, not look the other way in fear. Talk about a great asset to assist police and get to the hot spots and prevent crime. A camera is not simply a camera, they are linked to data bases, police laptops, other national agency?s, FBI, CIA, ATF, etc. These tools will aid in your safety. I have never heard anyone say I will never shop at that store because they have cameras. Or I do not bank there I believe they have to much surveillance. If you are outside you will be seen by anyone else on that street, why does it matter if a camera sees you? The people who complain about surveillance cameras have something to hide, What are you hiding?

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

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The problem is..

The problem is that it wont really deter crime, only move it.

Drug dealer Joe: All of downtown is wired with cameras where are we going to sell our product?
Supplier Bob: The suburbs of course.

Lets not forget how much harder this makes things for terrorists too:
Before cameras - Place bomb, run
After cameras - Cut wire, place bomb, run

Think Im going to buy stock in a wirecutter manufacturer.

The bad and the good!

I do believe protecting any and every city from terrorists and criminals is essential. However, going to such lengths to do it is good and bad. I can understand people thinking their privacy might be invaded, on the other hand watching a crime in action is always a good thing for the victim.
The city personal making the comment that they own the streets, sidewalks and alleys may very well be true, but who pays for those streets, sidewalks and alleys? The taxpayers that is who! I do believe that all government officials need to pay more attention to what the citizens of the U.S. think instead of what they think is good for us. Millions of dollars could be better spent on the other necessities.

The bad and the good!

I do believe protecting any and every city from terrorists and criminals is essential. However, going to such lengths to do it is good and bad. I can understand people thinking their privacy might be invaded, on the other hand watching a crime in action is always a good thing for the victim.
The city personal making the comment that they own the streets, sidewalks and alleys may very well be true, but who pays for those streets, sidewalks and alleys? The taxpayers that is who! I do believe that all government officials need to pay more attention to what the citizens of the U.S. think instead of what they think is good for us. Millions of dollars could be better spent on the other necessities.