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Apple is also offering relatively fixed pricing, though new releases sell for more than older titles. Iger said he is perfectly comfortable with that notion and doesn't think that will prove to be an insurmountable hurdle for the rest of the industry. However, Disney is likely to team up with others. "It's nonexclusive," he said of the Apple deal. "We're platform-agnostic."

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about iPods and movies.

Jobs said that although the movies are a U.S. feature, the company hopes to offer films internationally next year. Iger said that Disney is already in talks with Apple on overseas distribution.

Both the video iPod and iPod Nano come with a search feature that lets users find songs, artists or television shows by entering letters into a search bar rather than scrolling through the familiar menus. They will also allow users to sync their music collections on home and work PCs through the iPod, so songs added at home and synced to the iPod will transfer to a work PC when that iPod is plugged into a USB port.

Jobs called the new 1GB iPod Shuffle "the world's smallest digital music player." It's about half the size of the original iPod Shuffle, uses the same aluminum casing as the new Nanos, and has a clip built onto the back. It costs $79.

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The new iPod and the iPod Nanos are available immediately, and the iPod Shuffle will be available in October.

Version 7 of iTunes is also available for download immediately. The addition of movies to the content available for purchase was the most significant new feature, but the new version provides music videos at a higher resolution than before, now up to 640-by-480-pixel resolution. The screens on the new iPods and iPod Nanos support this resolution, which will also improve the quality of movies played on a Mac, PC or television.

The lineup of television shows available on the iTunes 7 store will also now include highlights of football games through a deal with the National Football League's NFL Network, Jobs said.

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iTV is Excellent
The Forthcoming iTV box changes everything.

Now the PC is the Server for all TV's, iPods, etc, in the home.

This is the future that analysts have predicted would be needed
to jumpstart video on demand and it is here.

Nice job Apple. How do I preorder?
Posted by dansterpower (2511 comments )
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Cooool
The way I play movies on my TV right now, is via the S-Video Cable and fiber for audio, via the Stereo.

So I have to dedicate a Computer for that, but if I can hook up a device to my Mac, and then I can see it play on the TV wirelessly, wow, that would be hella cool....

What about the other way around ?

Can I record from TV and transfer to the Computer ? that would be Rad!!!

Love Apple.
Posted by rmiecznik (224 comments )
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Why announce iTV now?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Apple generally announce products when they are available for purchase? Why are they announcing this now rather than wait until January? It seems to me that, other than the iTV, nothing truly monumental was announced today. I think they probably <i>had</i> to announce the iTV today to give the impression that they were innovating rather than just making incremental improvements.

I was a little disappointed in the iPod news. I expected some kind of built-in wireless capability, at least in the Video iPod arena. For that matter, I think there were a lot of people expecting a bigger, landscaped screen.

I think Apple is moving in the right direction but I didn't anything that knocked my socks off or got me really excited about buying a product right now. You'd think they could've come up with something a little more "Wow" in the iPod line in the year since they've updated. The best thing I saw today was the lower prices on iPods.
Posted by KehaarHraka (9 comments )
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They need more hard to find content
No one cares about last night's episode of "Lost."
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.teckmagazine.com/content/view/659/42/" target="_newWindow">http://www.teckmagazine.com/content/view/659/42/</a>
Let's see some hard to find content.
Posted by (156 comments )
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Apple Customers - PWND
Apple forges path to digitally rape people in their own living rooms.
Posted by SystemsJunky (409 comments )
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Wake up, Apple fanboys (and get an Xbox)
Streaming video on a home network has been done for years now. Why would you want to stream from a crappy little 80GB handheld when you can stream to Xbox Media Center using all the storage your heart desires?
Posted by Anonymous Hero (47 comments )
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Wrong
Sorry,

But you obviously don't read. You don't stream from an 80gig
ipod. You stream from your PC or Mac. You'd want this over a
junky x-box for many reasons -- I'll share a few:

1) DVD Quality resolution with HD on the way in 6 months
2) The processor power to edit the video and then stream
anywere in the house -- to any TV, Stereo, iPod, Cell Phone,
Laptop, etc
3) The near infinite Hard Drive Expansion (using ESATA, Firewire
800, etc) AND the fast transfer speeds these interfaces bring.
4) Instant on video to the TV
5) Stability of Windows XP, 2000 or Mac OSX
6) Ability to backup all media to external hard drives and store
offsite to protect media collection.

Still want your xBox?

Didn't think so.

By the way, I own an xBox (really dislike it), 2 XP boxes, 3
Windows 2000 machines and 12 macs in my studio.

Apple fan boy not -- Just smart!
Posted by dansterpower (2511 comments )
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XBox Cannot Compare.
Sorry,

But you obviously don't read. You don't stream from an 80gig
ipod. You stream from your PC or Mac. You'd want this over a
junky x-box for many reasons -- I'll share a few:

1) DVD Quality resolution with HD on the way in 6 months
2) The processor power to edit the video and then stream
anywere in the house -- to any TV, Stereo, iPod, Cell Phone,
Laptop, etc
3) The near infinite Hard Drive Expansion (using ESATA, Firewire
800, etc) AND the fast transfer speeds these interfaces bring.
4) Instant on video to the TV
5) Stability of Windows XP, 2000 or Mac OSX
6) Ability to backup all media to external hard drives and store
offsite to protect media collection.

Still want your xBox?

Didn't think so.

By the way, I own an xBox (really dislike it), 2 XP boxes, 3
Windows 2000 machines and 12 macs in my studio.

Apple fan boy not -- Just smart!
Posted by dansterpower (2511 comments )
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Oh, and then there is the Remote
Then this is the Remote Control using FrontRow.

So any monitor, iPod, Stereo, etc with iTV is able to
independently contact the Media Server Computer (just your
basic PC) and get content remotely.

So the Kids are watching Nemo on the Basement Flatscreen,
Mom is showing grandma family photos on the Kitchen TV, Dad
is websurfing and little billy is adding content to the iPod.
Posted by dansterpower (2511 comments )
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agreed
Looks like applie tried to rip off the new generation of game systems except left the game part on the cutting room floor, all this in iTV gizmo is a middle mand dumb terminal that provides a bridge and required connections between your PC and TV.

Only diff is its warped up in apple style, and adds the apple tax.
Posted by capfan12 (101 comments )
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Wake up, MS fanboy!
Not everyone wants to buy a game system. You know, something designed primarily for games! Besides, I've seen XBoxes and PCs crash more than Macs, and yes that includes PCs running XP.

Plus you obviously didn't read the article correctly. The 80GB handheld shows video on itself - the video iPod. iTV has nothing to do with it!
Posted by ddesy (4336 comments )
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XBox Lacks HDMI
XBox also lacks the High-Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI)
interface.

For home theatre nuts like me, this is a huge omission.

iTV has it.
Posted by dansterpower (2511 comments )
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not everyone can afford an xbox
I think the xbox is a good product and does alot but its not for
everyone..... admitted ITV is nothing new and is still overpriced
but it fits my needs more than an xbox, for less money and
looks a ton better than the xbox does sitting next to my tv.
Posted by bbydon (12 comments )
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Agree
I bet that Apple will come come out with before January. They want to sell this for the holiday season. Take that to the bank
Posted by jasonm0817 (23 comments )
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MacWorld Expo release
I think it's more likely that Apple will use MacWorld Expo in January
to formally release the iTV.
Posted by CBSTV (780 comments )
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iTV and video games
Speaking of the Xbox vs. iTV, I wonder how long it will Apple to announce you can store video games on your Mac and play them through on your television using iTV. Seems to me that it wouldn't be a stretch to turn iTV into a kind of console. Apple wouldn't have to make a huge investment to enable this and the games are already there in that they are essentially just PC games.
Posted by KehaarHraka (9 comments )
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Good Point
Great point, and since Windows now runs as fast on a Mac as a
PC Box (faster on the new Mac Pro Quad actually) one will be
able to use either OS and take advantage of all the games
available for the PC. The built in ethernet on iTV can handle the
bandwidth to the monitor as most TV monitors use relatively low
resolution.

Of course iTV is fully compatible with PC using XP or 2000 so a
Mac will NOT be needed anyhow.
Posted by dansterpower (2511 comments )
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A Good Point
Great point, and since Windows now runs as fast on a Mac as a
PC Box (faster on the new Mac Pro Quad actually) one will be
able to use either OS and take advantage of all the games
available for the PC. The built in ethernet on iTV can handle the
bandwidth to the monitor as most TV monitors use relatively low
resolution.

Of course iTV is fully compatible with PC using XP or 2000 so a
Mac will NOT be needed anyhow.
Posted by dansterpower (2511 comments )
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Great idea...
Ya, I already do this on a PC, I hook up the PC to my stereo, I use fiber optin for the sound and S-Video for the video and Games like Quake 4 and others, look as good as the Xbox 360 quality games, ya the PC I run it on is a good one with a SLI graphics card option.

And then I bought a Rumble 2 controller on ebay and bought a profiler software from Pinnacle and I can play most of the popular games on the TV with a controller, to mimic and console.

It wouldn't suprise me if one Day Apple makes their own Video something game console to complete with Microsoft.

Microsoft plays a lot of catch up, they are ahead is some areas and behind in others.

MS is responding to the iPod threat with Zume, to complete against it, so therefore I see no reason why Apple can't complete with Xbox.

I know they tried a few years back a game console, I forget what it was called, but it failed, they can give it another try.

Apple games would be good and I don't think the market would be too saturated either.

Xbox
Play Station
Ninendo
Apple

Bring it!!!
Posted by rmiecznik (224 comments )
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iTV + Mini?
It appears that the iTV is designed to complement a Macintosh Mini
on top.

Apple says the iTV will be 802.11 -- but will that be "g" or "n"?
Posted by CBSTV (780 comments )
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iTV, will cost $299
Is it worth the price?
Posted by jasonm0817 (23 comments )
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I'll check it out
Still feel that they are overpricing their products
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.teckmagazine.com/content/view/661/42/" target="_newWindow">http://www.teckmagazine.com/content/view/661/42/</a>
but it's worth taking a look.
Posted by (156 comments )
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Jobs copied it again
iTV is a copy of Dlink's DSM-320 which was released more than two years ago. Even then, it had many more features than this 'yet-to-be-released' iTV, like online compatibility with certain radios, S-Video, digital audio (optical/coaxial) and RCA out and compatibility with quite a few file formats which I doubt iTV will have.

Dlink has come out with newer models like DSM-320RD (with built in memory card reader and DVD player) and DSM-520 (with HD support and USB port to access media stored on flash drives and portable hard drives)

And most important thing: all these are cheaper than iTV. DSM-320 costs almost $150.

Looks like Apple is doing some catching up here... but it's never too late.
Posted by cary1 (924 comments )
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Ah, No HDMI
the devices you mentioned lack HDMI -- High-Definition
Multimedia Interface (HDMI).

This is a HUGE difference.

Sorry.
Posted by dansterpower (2511 comments )
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Considering the fact that
D-Link products are well known for NOT being reliable, and the simple fact that you don't know the full system specs and the accessories or included hardware with this unit. So, where's all of your logic?
Posted by (461 comments )
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Not impressed
I was more looking forward for a IPOD phone!!!

All they released was
IPOD + better screen
IPOD Nano which is smaller!!! (1gb shuffle)

IPOD movies is a service and I am not interested in watching it on a small screen. ITV will take care of watching on big screen and it is not here yet.

I am not sure if todays announcement is such a great one.
Posted by Tanjore (322 comments )
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iPOD Smart Phone in 6 months
Numerous analysists have indicated a very powerful Apple
SmartPhone within 6 months.

I am waiting too -- it will come.
Posted by dansterpower (2511 comments )
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Same feeling
I was expecting a big announcement and big innovation, but instead was left with about nothing. A few tweeks to their current line of ipods and a few existing technologies with and Apple name on it.
Posted by DrtyDogg (3084 comments )
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Still No Subscription Music CHOICE
I won't buy an iPod, because iTunes still doesn't offer customers the CHOICE of a subscription music service.

In contrast, Urge's web site states they they offer customers the choice of pay-per-song, or of a subscription service.

I know, AppleSheep don't want choices. They prefer having Steve Jobs dictate to them what they should, and shouldn't, want.
Posted by john55440 (1020 comments )
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Not Apple Sheep -- Recording Industry
Actually it is about maintaining and building relationships with
the Recording and Media industries which favor purchase.

I am not an Apple Sheep -- I like to OWN my music.

Don't want my subscription to expire and have nothing.

At least when I own I can RIP to a different audio format if I
choose to.
Posted by dansterpower (2511 comments )
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Good For You, now scuttle along to back under your rock.
Wow, good for you, you like subscriptions, looks like the whole planet is just crying out for that, aren't they?

I'm not really into renting my music, that is verging into the realms of you don't own this, it's ours view of the record companies.

Be assured that if there was a vast majority of people who wanted a subscription service on iTunes there would be one. I (and so it appears, almost everyone else) like simplicity and ease of use and being able to press buy now and have something I can do anything with is all that I need, and for the stuff I can't get on iTunes I get CDs and rip them.

Ok so you and the other minority can go and plug you Creative Zen : whatever it is this month into WMP 11 and go crazy, why waste you time commenting on something you don't care about.
Posted by grandmasterdibbler (78 comments )
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WE CHOOSE ...
To purchase our content to:
#1. Never worry about it expiring.
#2. Have the freedom to convert it to any media we choose to
play it on.
#3. Not be tied into another lifetime subscription scheme.

iPod/iTMS/iTunes users have not only choice, but freedom. You
call subscriptions a choice because it is simply an alternative
method. On a very basic level, its a choice, in reality its a way to
lock you in, period. I have no such lifetime commitments when
I purchase my media from Apple, just the same as if I walked
into a store and purchased a CD. Converting the tracks on a
CD, is not different than converting the tracks in iTunes.

Subscription services, by nature, limit choose. You don't own
the rights to use the media after your subcription end. You
don't properly compensate the content providers (whether it be
the artists, or the dreaded RIAA).

Stick with subscription services. The model it provides makes
you the sheep. The model WE CHOOSE does not. Ignorance is
bliss only because one does not see the bigger picture. But
please stop trying to tell us who have the power, through our
choice, to be free to do what we want, that somehow that makes
US sheep.
Posted by Thomas, David (1947 comments )
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Near DVD Quality, no rent option, no thanks
I assume the target market is someone bright enough to hookup iTV to a TV. This person will likely have a HDTV, so if the video is near DVD quality at 640 x 480, it will be 4x3 image not 16x9. This means that it will have bars on the left and right of the image, and look only as good as SDTV.

As is not poor enough, but then add the fact that your are "buying" the movie, not renting it. Additionally, if takes 30 minutes to download, assuming a 5 Mbps connection (which most don't have), you could go down to the video store and rent the movie.

How is this better then pay-per-view?

Bottom-line, they want a tech literate consumer to buy a lower quality version of a movie instead of DVD, for about the same cost, plus the cost of the device. Sorry Steve, you got it right with iTunes and the iPod but iTV hasn't been thought out.
Posted by jmhmaine (10 comments )
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This Very High Tech Guy will Take Yours Then
Number One: There are no bars on the left and right of the
image -- the decoding technology handles all this -- Go see for
yourself on Apple's site and on the Media Event today. The
quality exceeds SDTV and approaches DVD even at projection
levels.

Number Two: I prefer to buy. You go drive to the video store
paying $3 per gallon for gas, waste time, battle crowds, hope
they have the movie and then -- if you like the movie -- waste
your time illegally RIPing it to remove anti-piracty protection,
burn the DVD, print the label etc. NO THANKS.

Pay per view: What does that cost you per month in cable feeds?
How about per movie cost. I will pass.

I am far from a Tech-Illiterate consumer: I make my living with
the four Windows 2000 boxes, three XP boxes, 7 OSX boxes, 1
linux box, 2 Terabytes of Active Storage, Gigabit Ethernet
Network, etc -- shall I go on?

And yes the movie takes 30 minutes to download but BEGINS
instantly UNLIKE the Amazon and other services with inferior
player technology compared to iTunes DRM.

iTV will be a huge hit.
Posted by dansterpower (2511 comments )
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Vista Media Center and XBOX 360 = Digital Nirvana (already achieved)
Sorry Apple too little too late

<a class="jive-link-external" href="https://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/experiences/magic.mspx" target="_newWindow">https://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/experiences/magic.mspx</a>

Really this is strange, Apple plays catch up and Microsoft absolutely blows them out of the water with a innovative UI design

Hey Apple where is my TV programs, isn't it called iTV? Let me know when you will be able to provide HD programming as well?
Posted by mcepat (118 comments )
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Not Quite
Number One: Vista is not even out yet and had a long way to go.

Just like iTV.

Number Two: there are some glaring differences and areas
where a true Audiophile and Home Theatre Nut came a strong
case for iTV in terms of quality, price and future-safe operation
(HDMI for one).

We'll have to wait and see, but for video and audio my cash is on
Apple. For gaming, certainly xBox 360.
Posted by dansterpower (2511 comments )
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Xbox 360 and recording TV
I own the Xbox 360 and the previous one, I really like Halo and Halo 2, esspecially network play.

So in order for me to record TV to a PC, I have to have the Vista Media ? that cost $240

$500 for Xbox 360 and $240 for Vista Media, that's $800 with tax. I think I'll just wait for i(whatever they will call it, as I live Apple hardware way better then PC)

But, PC are useful, there is a lot of good third party Vendor programs that work on PCs.
Posted by rmiecznik (224 comments )
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It's too bad
peopel like you actually breathe the same kind of air I do. Do you realaly think the 360 is a great streamer? And has a great UI? You're out of your effing mind.

Considering This device will cost 200 bucks less than a 360 with a wireless adapter, and yes, it WILL do HD (did you not see wher ethe incredibles were being streamed in H264 HD?!).

I love my xbnox 360, but it doesn't do **** for media distribution very well at all.
Posted by (461 comments )
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never too late me girlyman
Its never too late girlyman....face it!!!..... IT S APPLE'S TURN!!!!
Posted by xpblue (6 comments )
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again...
That's assuming the owner wants to purchase a gaming system which not everyone wants to do.

Also, as I stated in another post, how much does the GENERAL PUBLIC know about this?

Apple's marketing campaign will make sure those same people who found out about the iPod will find out about this as well.
Posted by Musica360.com (106 comments )
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Great looking, but has not shipped yet!!!!
If and when it ships it might be a better product. Of course OS X
Leopard will ship by then and there will be much more to compare.
It really depends on who gets their product to the consumer first.
How easy it is setup and use. Intergration with its store ETC. Apple
is the master at that so it will be interesting to see the results.
Posted by grdaven (12 comments )
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Impressed with Everything .... Except
I really expected something ground-breaking, or at least
reasonable for the movie prices. It seems the negotiations,
along that line, failed.

I don't know about everyone else, but I can find absolutely no
compelling reason to purchase movies for a small screen at that
price.

If any of you have seen my previous posts, you know that I am a
true Apple fan. (hate that word "fan" by the way). But I see a
quick demise, and dismal sales regarding the movie section of
the store.
Posted by Thomas, David (1947 comments )
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Near DVD quality at higher than DVD price
I'm not sure how this makes sense. Why produce something that is less than DVD quality and charge higher than DVD prices for it? You get less for more money.

No thanks, I'd rather buy the DVD and not have to worry about the format disappearing any time soon. If I want to watch it on my video iPod, I can always just rip it to there without any trouble.
Posted by Vegaman_Dan (6683 comments )
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but...
That is the point of iTV - Apple knows that you do not want to watch movies on a small screen...
Posted by jamesm1973 (13 comments )
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hmm
hmmm...sorry i guess my post is misleading.
That i do not know. And knowing apple probably not. But you
can get them for $20 bucks.
my bad.
Posted by bbydon (12 comments )
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Lower the prices
C'mon Apple, you have products that people "want" to
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.teckmagazine.com/content/view/661/42/" target="_newWindow">http://www.teckmagazine.com/content/view/661/42/</a>
buy but don't want to take out another mortgage to pay for it.
Posted by (156 comments )
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Would FREE make you happy, Jonsey???
I doubt it. You'd probably still be griping if Apple gave it to you for nothing and threw in a few bucks on the side. If you want cheap, there are plenty of choices for you. If you want better, it'll cost more than you apparently want to pay. So go for cheap and quitcherbitchen about Apple prices already.
Posted by Norseman (1319 comments )
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DRM = Death
DRM will kill/limit this product. In order to appease the MPAA, the movie download service will probably scan the room to see how many people are on the couch so your "criminal" friends can't "pirate" the movie by sitting on the couch and watching it with you.
Posted by StinkyMcButt (13 comments )
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Garbage
That is garbage logic.

DRM is the KEY to this product.
Posted by dansterpower (2511 comments )
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iTV = Mac Mini / Xbox = crap
Put a Mini on that TV and you can do just about the same and
even more, its one of these "less is more" concepts from Apple
and not the "More is less" concepts from Micro****t.

The iTV is small, costs $299 (or less) and you only need any PC
or Mac with iTunes to host the content.

Xbox 360 is big, loud, costs $500 and you need an expensive
Media edition PC to host the content.
Posted by Peter Bonte (316 comments )
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Just about the same?
A mini can do just about the same as an Xbox 360? Thats funny considering the 360s primary purpose is to play Xbox 360 games and connect to xbox live.

The problem is I would still need to buy a console such as a 360, Wii or PS3 to play console games. The Xbox does not cost $500. There is a package that costs $500. The 360 costs $300 and $400. I have a copy of Win Media Center that came with my pc as do most home pcs that came out in the last year. And of course many copies of Vista will have media center built into that version of the OS.

I don't doubt the mini will have an edge when it comes to watching movies but that doesn't mean Xbox = crap and does just about the same thing. I also doubt iTV will have the same level of integration with Vista.
Posted by Akiba (220 comments )
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Could be better!!!! Stevie Jobs please read it!!!
In the iTunes 7 still the music videos DOESN'T KEEP PLAYING in
full screm mode, you have everthing in the Library menu but a
button for music videos is missing!!!!!
If you have a few CDs in your computer "cover flow view" could
help
you a lot and this looks cool, but if you are like me has 1600 Full
cds, 24 live concert/music videos DVDs organized in only 14
diferent genres, forget about it!
Before install it back up your iTunes Library File and if you don't
like it still you can Back to the iTunes 6.? whiout losing your
playlists.( But still you can use the Browsing Mode in the 7.0)

iTV if this thing come in 2 pieces one for my Mac (with a TV
tuner to wach and record digital/Analogue TV and automatic but
it into your iPod)., and the other piece for my Home Theater
Room (to acess all and control the recordings abillities in my
mac and acess it too) Sure i will buy it!
About the new iPods (Nano and Suffle) only the case and battery
performance changes. (is time to put something new on the
table)

New iPod 5G why buy it now? In a few mouths the 6G will be in
the market (with a bigger monitor for sure)

Movies Downloads? dowload a 30min TV show and wach it in
your iPod make sence, how about a 2 hours Movie? If you own a
home theater DVDs still a better deal and in some cases
cheaper!

I'm a Mac user from Japan but after the "Funny Products event" i
get disapointed with Apple!

Why i can't use the iPod Hi-FI to upload songs to my iPod?
Why the Mac Mini (and all Macs) don't have a optional acessory
(from Apple) to wach and record TV ,and transfer it automatic to
your iPod? (Do you have time to wach all your favorites TV Show
at Home? / Why buy again a TV Show if already you have a cable
service?)

If Apple wants to keep the iPod/iTunes Market in the top is time
to
THINK DIFERENT!

I Hope someone from Apple Directors Board read my coment
and make the changes!

English is not my first language, sorry about it!!!
Posted by Edmiya (2 comments )
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Read between the lines: games are next!
Apple introduced what? Some new iPods, some games, iTunes
7, downloadable movies and set top box to play on content on
TV. Movies transferred to your tv will be cool but what's the
next step?

Downloadable games to be played on your TV via the iTV box.
Just add a game controller that works with the iTV unit and what
have you got? An Xbox Killer!! If Apple has been working with
EA (and probably other game manufacturers), as Steve Jobs
stated in his presentation, do you think they've only been
working on a few simple games for you iPod? I don't think so.

So now you'll your music, your movies and your games on your
computer and you'll be able to wirelessly transfer that content to
your TV. Apple is looking for new markets to move into. If they
can successfully move into games it only means one thing: Adios
X-box and PS3!
Posted by hal Summers (80 comments )
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Absurd
This is the most absurd comment I've seen on this thread. While Apple has a strong foothold on the media industry, to make such a bold claim that if it decided to move into the videogame business, it would single handedly take down all competition in it's first effort is insane. The simple fact that the 360 is already in the market and the PS3 and Wii are at the final stages of development while any assumed plans Apple might have for a videogame system hasn't even been noted upon would mean that Apple isn't even going to pose a threat to said companies within this generation of games.

At best, I would consider their approach into the videogame industry to be as successful as Microsoft's try. Even though both the X-box and its successor are respectable consoles with good libraries of games, they found it is extremely difficult to brute force their way into the hearts of fans who place their faith in the industry greats, Nintendo and Sony. To a splash in videogaming, you need to be able to captivate the heart of the Japanese, cater to the needs of a wide range of gamers and convince the developers to make games for your product.
Posted by Nubasaurus (9 comments )
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Most Xbox & PS fans won't switch
I don't think its far fetched to think they would move into games, but it is far fetched to think that would be the end of the PS3 and Xbox. I see no reason why gamers are certain to ditch their consoles for this even if it was supperior piece of hardware. PS was an inferior machine to Xbox but it still won based on brand loyalty and game titles. Apple has neither when it comes to gaming.
Posted by Akiba (220 comments )
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MCE has been here for years
I'm not a huge MS fan, but I love my MCE2005. It is a really cool piece of technology. It records TV, plays music, videos, DVDs, FM radio, etc... I have it onnected to my 37" LCD TV via DVI. It has 7.1 THX surround sound.

I can already stream any content wirelessly to other TVs in the house via MCE extenders. (XBOX is an extended, but I don't have one). There are several extenders available including some from Linksys.

It runs fast and reliably. I think Apple has a ways to go before they can catch up. I'm sure Vista will add some new twists to MCE, but MCE2005 is VERY mature.
Posted by frankwick (413 comments )
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Apple Q1 2007 starts in OCT 2006!
When Steve Jobs stated that the code named "iTV" will be issued in Q1 2007, THAT is the 2006 HOLIDAY SEASON, not just January 2007 / MACWORLD EXPO. Paris Expo 2006 started on the same day as this keynote in San Francisco...

Keep your mind &#38; eyes open for what exactly the "iTV" / MacTV, Mac Mini Tv, Mac XBOXTV will be &#38; when it will be for sale...
Posted by Llib Setag (951 comments )
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Check again...
Jobs said "calendar year" Q1.
Posted by kernel-panic (2 comments )
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Check again...
Jobs said "calendar year" Q1 2007.
Posted by kernel-panic (2 comments )
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DON'T INSTALL ITUNES 7!!
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=149" target="_newWindow">http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=149</a>

PLEASE READ THE TERRIBLE TROUBLE PPL ARE HAVING WITH ITUNES
7!!!
Posted by fakespam (239 comments )
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No Troubles Here
No Troubles Here on:

2 Windows 2000 boxes
1 XP box
1 Apple G4 Laptop
1 Apple Quad Core G5

Works perfectly
Posted by dansterpower (2511 comments )
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Where's iTV lacks HANA standard features, Apple!?
Apple seems to completely miss the boat with their new Q1
2007 $299 "iTV" product, it has NO FireWire, and IGNORES the
HANA (High-Definition Audio-Video Network Alliance) standard
which standardizes on FireWire to *control* all A/V devices! Who
cares about a USB port, Apple! :(
See:
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.hanaalliance.org/" target="_newWindow">http://www.hanaalliance.org/</a>

FireWire is the new standard to control A/V devices, and Apple
should be LEADING this charge!
Posted by libertyforall1776 (650 comments )
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Where's iTV's HANA standard features, Apple!?
Apple seems to completely miss the boat with their new Q1
2007 $299 "iTV" product, it has NO FireWire, and IGNORES the
HANA (High-Definition Audio-Video Network Alliance) standard
which standardizes on FireWire to *control* all A/V devices! Who
cares about a USB port, Apple! :(
See:
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.hanaalliance.org/" target="_newWindow">http://www.hanaalliance.org/</a>

FireWire is the new standard to control A/V devices, and Apple
should be LEADING this charge!
Posted by libertyforall1776 (650 comments )
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