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newsmaker If you need more evidence of the Web shaking up the packaged software business, talk to Bruce Chizen.

The CEO of Adobe Systems oversees a company that successfully harnessed the power of an earlier technology wave--personal computers--for tasks like digital publishing and photography.

Now Adobe is looking to add Web-delivered services to its product line, says Chizen. The company has already developed an online video editor and, Chizen said, an online version of image editor Photoshop is in the works. Also in the works is Apollo, a new client development strategy due later this year.

As the company develops new products, it intends to combine the multimedia authoring skills it has in Photoshop, Premiere and other applications with the Web design and development savvy of Macromedia, Chizen said. Indeed, as Web-based applications become more functional, Adobe's acquisition of Macromedia--maker of Flash and Web development tools--looks better every day, especially as Microsoft continues to challenge Adobe with competing products.

In part one of a two-part interview, Chizen tells CNET News.com about Adobe's online strategy, discloses his plans for Photoshop, and discusses how to live with Microsoft the monopolist. In part two, to be posted later this week, Chizen talks about hidden gems in the Macromedia acquisition and how to beat Google.

We've talked about this in the past, but you have said that Adobe hasn't been concerned with the low end of the market because those are not your core customers. The creative professionals are your core customers. Is that still true?
Chizen: One thing that has changed is that the low end of the market is moving up in terms of expectations. The YouTube audience--everybody wants to be a video publisher, everyone wants to be a creative. So we are doing some things like we have just announced with PhotoBucket and Remix, where we say we recognize there is a customer there, we recognize they are not going to pay us, necessarily, directly. But we could use ad revenue as a model. Google has demonstrated that it works pretty well for certain types of applications. So that's one of the things we are doing with the Remix product. You will probably see us do that with an image editor. We'll look at ways of reaching the consumer where they don't have to pay.

That's new for Adobe, isn't it?
Chizen: That is new (for Adobe). It's something we are sensitive to because we are watching folks like Google do it in different categories and we want to make sure that we are there before they are, in areas of our franchises. And also we have technologies in which to do it. We can take the video-editing expertise of the Premiere team and the Premiere Elements team and marry it with the Flex/Flash programming framework, which meant that we could get that video Remix product out very quickly, more quickly than we could have without Macromedia.

Right now, for photo editing, a lot of people use Google's Picasa. Those people may never become Photoshop or Photoshop Elements users.
Right, and if we offered a host-based version of Photoshop, that's Photoshop branded, that was potentially better than Picasa, you'd probably go the Photoshop route because of your belief in the Photoshop brand and the quality associated with the brand name. That's something that would be obvious for us to do.

The reason why we did video first, is that in video we said that other than Jumpcut, there was really nothing else in the market (like Remix), so why not do it ourselves?

But why wouldn't Adobe do this yourself? Why work with someone like Photobucket?
Chizen: We could do this ourselves (the combined Remix and Photobucket offering). But it's nice to have the distribution channel. It's not exclusive to Photobucket. There is no reason we can't do it with the other social sites or content providers. Imagine some of the people already in the video content business, the media houses--why they wouldn't want their users to remix videos? We could offer that from Adobe directly, but offering that from Adobe directly means we have to deal with all of the host-based aspects of the business--the technical operations of collecting the advertising and handling the transactions. That's a pain.

We're giving up some revenue by doing the deal with Photobucket, but they deal with some of the things I don't want to deal with, at least at this point in time. Now, once we see that it could be a significant revenue producer, then maybe we'll want to deal with it.

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I agree with them
by jchandler15 March 5, 2007 6:20 AM PST
I agree with Adobe it should have it's future on the web, however it must be ready for it and not release a half assed product
Josh Chandler
http://www.techoriphic.com
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Great more flex yet no talk about coldfusion
by k-sea March 5, 2007 7:19 AM PST
Nice Bruce, talk up everything except Coldfusion.

Website's will still need to be website's and not flash/flex Apollo driven entities for the next few years at least.
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Quite similar to...
by lmasanti March 5, 2007 8:11 AM PST
From the descriptions of eBay and Amazon examples of Apollo's
applications it seems to me that they are almost identical to the
iTunes experience.
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Adobe sees future on the Web = DUH!
by Too Old For IT March 5, 2007 8:18 AM PST
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Content is Web future-Go Adobe!
by bdennis410 March 5, 2007 12:46 PM PST
Congratulations to Chizen for his continuing attemtps to visualize a web future based on user control of content. As I have referred to in the past when commenting, I again urge readers (and Chizen) to read "Rainbow's End" by Vernor Vinge.
Vinge envisions a society based on "wearing" wherein your clothing, and a variety of innocuous attachments, are all part of the "connected" experience, including user "on the fly" content creation, WebCam live always connected, and more.
"Second Life" is also on the way to a magical future. Your web Avatar alter ego may actually lead the life you want to live...or not. It may depend on your "skill set" in developing and managing your Avatar's success.
Entrepreneurs take heed!
To the extent Chizen can see a future for Adobe and partners on which the focus is facilitating content creation and management, I agree that is the way to go. The technical impediments he sees in broadband speed limitations will be solved, sooner rather than much later. Demand will manifest the very moment capability is achieved.
The depth of future demand for web-delivered services, content, information and entertainment is at it's earliest stages; achieving Vinge's vision will require much in technological advances, but my own view is that it is doable. Whether it is necessary, even desireable, remains to be seen.
Mediaman
(Barry Dennis)
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Think out of the box :)))
by oligofree March 10, 2007 12:34 AM PST
What can I say? That's more than enough http://www.whatisinthebox.co.uk/
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