Comments on: Most security tools not quite ready for Vista

Microsoft's Windows update for businesses is out, but only one of the major security providers has protection available for it.

[MadKiwi]

But

Windows Vista is the "most secure Windows ever"...

[rcrusoe]

Re: "the most secure Windows ever"

Vista may well be the "most secure Windows ever" and still turn out to be a security nightmare.

After all Microsoft said, "When you install SP2 on your Windows XP-based PC, you can feel confident that you're running the most secure Windows operating system available."

And yet over 50% of the botnets spewing spam at unpresidented levels are running Windows XP SP2.

The only way we will know if Vista is more secure is to look at its record in a couple of years.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/overview.mspx

http://www.secureworks.com/analysis/spamthru-stats/

[pgp_protector]

I thought

I thought Vista didn't need all the new extra 3rd party security software ?

[t3st3r`]

You was wrong...don't trust MS advertisings-they just need to sell Vista :)

You should be pretty stupid to put all eggs in same basket.Windows will be scanned quite well by hackers and they definitely will find flaws soon.Third-party software makes attacks slightly harder since nobody can construct reliable attack against ALL possible 3rd party software.Before completely trusting to MS advertisings please remember:they are interested to sell this thing to you.So, they will advertise it as panacea.However it actually isn't as good as advertising says.Of course if you will disable networking, never use doubtful programs, etc you can live without antivirus and decent firewall.As well as with any other Windows version since WinNT 4.0. But if you have networking, browsing web sites, chatting in IM, opening mail attachments, etc - you better to have some good and proven antivirus.MS attempted to enter AV market since MS-DOS times several times.And always proved it as very weak player in this field.I do not expect this will change too much.You can't buy something and then immediately become expert in this area.Because major players with advanced technologies are usually not willing to sell their *****.

[Walt Connery]

It doesn't...

...and that's what's upsetting the "security vendors" about Vista--Microsoft has made it very difficult for them to hack into the system as they have been used to doing routinely for so many years. And if it's hard for Symantec to hack into Vista, just imagine how much more difficult it will be for John Doe Hacker to hack it...;)

The slant of this CNet article is, as always, one of FUD instead of information useful to its readership. Thank goodness we're approaching a time when the protection racket the "security firms" have got going is nearing an end.

[st.walters]

About time!

Well at least this will be one version of windows that won't be screwed up and have it's processor abilities robed by Symantec and McAfee.

I personally use NOD and the built in XP fire wall with my Linksys NAT router, and I have of years... total number of virus on my system. 0. Total CPU time lost to Antivirus scanners 1-2% unlike Symtantec which was 15 to 25%.

You know, I finally figured out why these security companies like dual cores.. it's so their bloat ware has a cpu of it's own. I'm even more glad that at least for a few months I won't be having to remove their garbage from my clients new Vista computers. (can you tell I really don't like Symantec products?)

[lesliejs]

nod

yes you do sound like you don;t like symantec, understandable though. I've heard that the next release of Symantec (not necessarily vista-specific) will swallow up less system resources.

I had never heard of nod until you mentioned it. Checked it out, looks impressive. But I'm wondering why I haven't heard of it before...

[jevenew]

Most security tools not quite ready for Vista

According to their website, NOD32 has an application that includes Vista. Right out the gate.

[jevenew]

Macafee

I wouldn't install Macafee on anyone's PC. But I get lots of requests to get rid of it.

[aqvarivs]

updates'n security needs

a $400.00 beta. six years on and xp still isn't finished.

[Ryo Hazuki]

Microsoft-bashing and ignorance

Next time, try something out before humilliating yourself with ridiculous comments like that (and I don't know where you're buying Vista, I'll get mine for $99).
Six years on and Microsoft haters are still ignorants.

[wbenton]

Vista not ready for the market

When Vista becomes REALLY READY for the market... the security tools companies will be ready for Vista.

Stop counting your chickens before they hatch!!!

Walt

[kFuQ]

Vista not ready for the market

nothing m$ has ever made has been "really ready"