Comments on: Microsoft security product makes official debut

Windows Live OneCare goes on sale in the U.S., marking Microsoft's official entry into consumer antivirus.
Video: One on one with OneCare

[kaufmanmoore]

Largely trusted brand?

I'm not so sure about Microsoft's security track record.

[rcrusoe]

Re: "not so sure"

I am sure about Microsoft's security track record.

That's why I never use a Windows machine for anything but
gaming.

[technewsjunkie]

I laughed when I read that line too!

LOL

[paulsecic]

Largely

********!

Someone file a class-action lawsuit please

I hope someone in the US will file a class-action lawsuit over
this.

In essence Microsoft is shipping a defect product (XP) and is
selling an additional product to fix the first flawed one.
Microsoft has all the knowledge to combine XP and OneCare Live
into a version of XP that has the aggregated security of the two
products.
This is a big difference from the traditional anti-virus software
developers who does not have the source code to XP and
therefore cannot fix the fundamental problems like Microsoft
can.

[ordaj]

Exactly! How can they do this?

They CAUSE the problem. It's racketeering.

I think I'm going to start a business that creates a problem and then sell the solution.

[mortis9]

smart thinking, retard!

this is a an antivirus/firewall suite, not a program filled with patches for the OS. where do you get your information? better yet, assuming your moronic comments bore any truth, why would this product garner a class-action lawsuit when the only thing this product negatively affects, according to you, is the business models of microsoft's competitors? please, i'm curious for an informative response.

[donnie0526]

a lot of good that will do...

the anti-trust mess is what continues to get us back to this situatiojn... must leave room for competition in the "aftermarket".

[hdubya]

what should they do?

Microsoft is attempting to solve its long running security issues. Some of these issues are around the operating system's design, others are around how users use computers.

If they offered this product stack as part of the operating system, all of the antiv companies would lobby for another antitrust case and all of the CNET pundits would be calling for blood.

[Ted Miller]

A free Suite of Utilities.

Let's see, We build an operating system with lots of holes but good enough for people to want it. Then we make a security suite that will plug those holes and then we make billions more. What a great business plan!

Don't buy the evil plan. Go for free!

Use AVG, Adaware, Spybot S&D, Spyware Blaster and Spyware Guard. Clean it all up with ToniArts Easy cleaner 2.0 . These programs do not intrude on your system and you are in control. Best of all along with their long standing great reviews they are FREE!

[Tanjore]

Onecare does not plug holes

It just cleans up the mess made by virus attacks.

If microsoft doesn't fix the holes in OS they are doomed!! and will not make billions!!!

[rcrusoe]

Onecare should be a big success

Like P.T. Barnum once said, "there's a sucker born every minute".

[Roman12]

What? It should be free...

This is the same company that made Windows in the first place, so I think it's only fair that this security tool becomes built-in to Windows. It's not line Windows is free, and this is added protection...

The consumer has already paid for the OS, and it's stupid to pay additional charges to the same people for securing the operation system that you've already paid for. And the fact that its made by the same people as Windows, it does not make me at all confident about the reliability of this product.
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[Tanjore]

It has more than security related products

It has more than security related products. It has a file backup utility.

$49.90 for upto three machines at home!! If the product works then it is a cheap giveaway for what it does.

Ofcourse there are many good opensource alternatives available.

[Tanjore]

Microsoft does have a free product to remove virus

Microsoft does have a product that is free to use, to remove virus and help in pc tuneup

http://safety.live.com/site/en-us/default.htm

[sarmasriram]

Yeah... sure... why not!!!

Dont buy OneCare... Go ahead and by the Norton or McAfee Crap!!
I've been testing the product as a beta user and it sure beat all the expectations.
Remember... when you buy a car, the company offers you additional safety features not for free, but for a price.
XP is good in itself, but additional stuff like Anti Virus, Anti spyware and similar stuff would cost you extra.
Not ready to spend money on it... go ahead and breed viruses and all sorts of stuff on your computer!
All the best!

[gggg sssss]

Good points but

Last time I looked, MS is still the number one OS in the Universe, despite all its detractors. Despite free linux. It should be easy to build something better, no. Obviously none of the others as as smart as Bill G.

[209979377489953107664053243186]

outbound email security?

Security should mean protecting inbound and outbound email. Identity theft comes from various different sources, and email interception is one of them. Ignore outbound email security, and you leave another hole uncovered.
http://www.essentialsecurity.com/yourbusiness.htm

[thalen]

Like a car without door locks

What a fraud! First, Microsoft sells you an operating system with security flaws. Then they sell you a subscription service to protect you from those same flaws.

If you buy this, I've got a bridge I want to sell you.

[Sboston]

Door Locks

No the locks are there, but you can break the glass or jimmy the lock.

I think this is an attempt by MS to give you harder glass and anti-Jimmy locks. :D

[Norseman]

You don't suppose...

...that release of the new "secure" Vista has been delayed in order to sell more clean-up software for the old "unsecure" XP, do you? Nah. A fine, upstanding corporation like Microsoft wouldn't do that!

[donnie0526]

Where does this leave Defender? aka anti-spyware...

the old Giant product that has been in beta for two years?

[stm24]

defender is.......

Defender is part of onecare and onecare is a good program. Been using since it came out on beta. Don't knock it till u try it!

[stm24]

defender is.......

Defender is part of onecare and onecare is a good program. Been using since it came out on beta. Don't knock it till u try it!

[qwerty75]

The ultimate protection racket

I can't believe people are dumb enough to pay MS more money because they are incompetant.

This should be free, because it was lack of care of Microsoft that caused all these problems in the first place. If a car marker installs a faulty wiring system, do they charge you extra, every year no less, for a half-assed workaround, or do they fix it for free?

This really is a protection racket. It is not surprising since MS is not any better then your common thug anyway.

[Tomcat Adam]

That car example is pitiful.

Really. I'd like to see a car company which can build a car that CANNOT be broken into when tens of millions of people are trying. Yeah, not gonna see that happening.
Everyone acts like making a secure OS would be easy for MS, yet they only substantiate it with Apple? Linux? A secure OS doesn't win the majority of the people, and Microsoft knows this.

However, I agree that this is a move of pure greed to exploit a common problem with many "unknown" cures (not well known I mean).
It is possible that this program might have a bucnh of extra, useful features that makes it worth it. There's always the possibility.

[BKHerbert]

Let me see if I've got this right...

Let me see if I've got this right...

We're supposed to pay Microsoft HOW much to protect us from their buggy, hacker-prone code?

This is like the guy who kills his mother, and then asks the court for leniency because he is now an orphan...

[Khorn S.]

LMAO nice

not one person has a bad thing to say it seems about the performance of onecare. Just the fact that microsoft made it. So microsoft says," ok heres an alternitive solution to something you are already paying other companys for and are not paying for by useing the free portions, altho they ask that you pay for them to get more avalible options." i understand the ,"make it free as its fixing whats messed in the first place" but instead of microsoft making it free they offer it as a choice! they are not monopolizeing the market by taking away our choice to choose what anti virus and other software we wish to have. Lemme tell ya im all for free. But i will be buying this product for the simple fact, IT WORKS. i had free avg installed and running, ran into some problems even tho i was religeous on updates, installed live onecare and it found stuff that avg missed! i even did my own homework to look up the supposid virus, sure enough it had found and eleminated something avg did not. So please spare me the crying orphan story (loved that by the way) and place more comments about how it stacks up to rival anti whatever.

[Khorn S.]

let me add

sorry, forgot to mention the fact that altho they are offering this at a price think about it a second. hackers, and the like are constantly looking for new ways to manipulate the programs for there own selfish reasons what ever it may be. An operating system is NEVER going to be unhackable as long as its connected to the internet. The internet is a super highway of drivers, some drivers just decide to do demolition cars rather than be like everyone else. personaly i would rather pay the once a year expense for updated air bags.