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The upcoming OS will include new patching technology that reduces restarts and stores user data before reboots.

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Wow, how innovative
by September 2, 2005 1:05 PM PDT
Man, I got to have that Vista so I won't have to reboot. NOT!

;-)
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Who Cares About # of Reboots?
by 201293546946733175101343322673 September 2, 2005 9:43 PM PDT
I think people nowadays are just too busy to reboot their computers, or they believe rebooting is a waste of time. Hmm, I wonder what is more time-wasting, reboot or watch porn online? :)
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Wow, how innovative
by September 2, 2005 1:05 PM PDT
Man, I got to have that Vista so I won't have to reboot. NOT!

;-)
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Who Cares About # of Reboots?
by 201293546946733175101343322673 September 2, 2005 9:43 PM PDT
I think people nowadays are just too busy to reboot their computers, or they believe rebooting is a waste of time. Hmm, I wonder what is more time-wasting, reboot or watch porn online? :)
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Wow, how innovative
by September 2, 2005 1:05 PM PDT
Man, I got to have that Vista so I won't have to reboot. NOT!

;-)
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Who Cares About # of Reboots?
by 201293546946733175101343322673 September 2, 2005 9:43 PM PDT
I think people nowadays are just too busy to reboot their computers, or they believe rebooting is a waste of time. Hmm, I wonder what is more time-wasting, reboot or watch porn online? :)
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I'm Underwhelmed
by Bytesmiths September 2, 2005 1:41 PM PDT
That's how MacOS X behaved since inception, five years ago!

Sooner or later, Microsoft steals Apple's old ideas and calls them
their own, to great fanfare, while pooh-poohing Apple's current
ideas.
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I am Overwhelmed
by 201293546946733175101343322673 September 2, 2005 9:47 PM PDT
It is always funny to see Mac users keep stating how "innovative" Mac OS is, and totally ingore (or choose to forget?) how Mac OS is copying others' ideas as well. Hmm, now I have the reason to believe Mac users all have very bad long-term memory :)
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I'm Underwhelmed
by Bytesmiths September 2, 2005 1:41 PM PDT
That's how MacOS X behaved since inception, five years ago!

Sooner or later, Microsoft steals Apple's old ideas and calls them
their own, to great fanfare, while pooh-poohing Apple's current
ideas.
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I am Overwhelmed
by 201293546946733175101343322673 September 2, 2005 9:47 PM PDT
It is always funny to see Mac users keep stating how "innovative" Mac OS is, and totally ingore (or choose to forget?) how Mac OS is copying others' ideas as well. Hmm, now I have the reason to believe Mac users all have very bad long-term memory :)
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I'm Underwhelmed
by Bytesmiths September 2, 2005 1:41 PM PDT
That's how MacOS X behaved since inception, five years ago!

Sooner or later, Microsoft steals Apple's old ideas and calls them
their own, to great fanfare, while pooh-poohing Apple's current
ideas.
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I am Overwhelmed
by 201293546946733175101343322673 September 2, 2005 9:47 PM PDT
It is always funny to see Mac users keep stating how "innovative" Mac OS is, and totally ingore (or choose to forget?) how Mac OS is copying others' ideas as well. Hmm, now I have the reason to believe Mac users all have very bad long-term memory :)
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Vista Cruiser TV Dinners
by cjohn17 September 2, 2005 4:26 PM PDT
Freeze dried worms? Oh boy!
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Vista Cruiser TV Dinners
by cjohn17 September 2, 2005 4:26 PM PDT
Freeze dried worms? Oh boy!
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Vista Cruiser TV Dinners
by cjohn17 September 2, 2005 4:26 PM PDT
Freeze dried worms? Oh boy!
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playing catch-up
by Scott W September 2, 2005 4:31 PM PDT
MS STILL play catch-up. instead of unbolting the GUI and modularising everything, they come up with ANOTHER way to hog system resources. why do they always have to do everything the hard way?
case-in-point: X11 (for linux) has mulitple workspaces (desktops) so you can switch between desktops when you want to do something different without closing the open window. MS come up with a 3D desktop, waste an extra 200+MB RAM, more VRAM, and for what? it still won't compete with multiple desktops.
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MS is catching up
by Mendz September 2, 2005 6:07 PM PDT
There are a lot of good Linux and Unix stuffs that Microsoft is copying to Windows Vista. Yes, Windows is trying to catch up.
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Multiple Desktops
by Andrew J Glina September 2, 2005 10:36 PM PDT
I have never liked or seen much use for multiple desktops. I run a dual screen setup and that saves me time by enabling me to monitor one window without minimising another that I am actively using. That I like. Even so, my video card supports multiple desktops (most do) so there really is no need to integrate it into the GUI. Afterall, isn't that what you are insulting Microsoft for in your post; bloating Windows for no good reason?
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playing catch-up
by Scott W September 2, 2005 4:31 PM PDT
MS STILL play catch-up. instead of unbolting the GUI and modularising everything, they come up with ANOTHER way to hog system resources. why do they always have to do everything the hard way?
case-in-point: X11 (for linux) has mulitple workspaces (desktops) so you can switch between desktops when you want to do something different without closing the open window. MS come up with a 3D desktop, waste an extra 200+MB RAM, more VRAM, and for what? it still won't compete with multiple desktops.
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MS is catching up
by Mendz September 2, 2005 6:07 PM PDT
There are a lot of good Linux and Unix stuffs that Microsoft is copying to Windows Vista. Yes, Windows is trying to catch up.
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Multiple Desktops
by Andrew J Glina September 2, 2005 10:36 PM PDT
I have never liked or seen much use for multiple desktops. I run a dual screen setup and that saves me time by enabling me to monitor one window without minimising another that I am actively using. That I like. Even so, my video card supports multiple desktops (most do) so there really is no need to integrate it into the GUI. Afterall, isn't that what you are insulting Microsoft for in your post; bloating Windows for no good reason?
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playing catch-up
by Scott W September 2, 2005 4:31 PM PDT
MS STILL play catch-up. instead of unbolting the GUI and modularising everything, they come up with ANOTHER way to hog system resources. why do they always have to do everything the hard way?
case-in-point: X11 (for linux) has mulitple workspaces (desktops) so you can switch between desktops when you want to do something different without closing the open window. MS come up with a 3D desktop, waste an extra 200+MB RAM, more VRAM, and for what? it still won't compete with multiple desktops.
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MS is catching up
by Mendz September 2, 2005 6:07 PM PDT
There are a lot of good Linux and Unix stuffs that Microsoft is copying to Windows Vista. Yes, Windows is trying to catch up.
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Multiple Desktops
by Andrew J Glina September 2, 2005 10:36 PM PDT
I have never liked or seen much use for multiple desktops. I run a dual screen setup and that saves me time by enabling me to monitor one window without minimising another that I am actively using. That I like. Even so, my video card supports multiple desktops (most do) so there really is no need to integrate it into the GUI. Afterall, isn't that what you are insulting Microsoft for in your post; bloating Windows for no good reason?
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Trying
by SUEX1 September 2, 2005 8:22 PM PDT
Trying being the key word
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Trying
by SUEX1 September 2, 2005 8:22 PM PDT
Trying being the key word
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Trying
by SUEX1 September 2, 2005 8:22 PM PDT
Trying being the key word
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Mr. Pescatore . . .
by markdoiron September 3, 2005 5:22 AM PDT
"This ability to patch without requiring a reboot is enormous," Pescatore said. "This has been a feature users have been clamoring for."

uh, i hate to sound cynical but the feature i'm actually clamoring for is an operating system that doesn't require patching. think of it this way, sir: if they make it too convenient to patch, then there'll be that much less pressure (from users) to make the operating system right in the first place.

mark d.
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nice
by Scott W September 5, 2005 1:12 AM PDT
i never thought of that one. i know all about the "keep em hoping" strategy of "upgrades" but this is intriging
You have an OS...
by Bob Brinkman September 6, 2005 9:17 AM PDT
..that has absolutely no patches released for it? This I gotta see.
Mr. Pescatore . . .
by markdoiron September 3, 2005 5:22 AM PDT
"This ability to patch without requiring a reboot is enormous," Pescatore said. "This has been a feature users have been clamoring for."

uh, i hate to sound cynical but the feature i'm actually clamoring for is an operating system that doesn't require patching. think of it this way, sir: if they make it too convenient to patch, then there'll be that much less pressure (from users) to make the operating system right in the first place.

mark d.
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nice
by Scott W September 5, 2005 1:12 AM PDT
i never thought of that one. i know all about the "keep em hoping" strategy of "upgrades" but this is intriging
You have an OS...
by Bob Brinkman September 6, 2005 9:17 AM PDT
..that has absolutely no patches released for it? This I gotta see.
Mr. Pescatore . . .
by markdoiron September 3, 2005 5:22 AM PDT
"This ability to patch without requiring a reboot is enormous," Pescatore said. "This has been a feature users have been clamoring for."

uh, i hate to sound cynical but the feature i'm actually clamoring for is an operating system that doesn't require patching. think of it this way, sir: if they make it too convenient to patch, then there'll be that much less pressure (from users) to make the operating system right in the first place.

mark d.
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nice
by Scott W September 5, 2005 1:12 AM PDT
i never thought of that one. i know all about the "keep em hoping" strategy of "upgrades" but this is intriging
You have an OS...
by Bob Brinkman September 6, 2005 9:17 AM PDT
..that has absolutely no patches released for it? This I gotta see.
Hello .... anyone home.....????
by September 4, 2005 10:56 AM PDT
Folks, all Microsoft is tring to do is sell more hardware. Your
single processor 3 Ghz Pentium 4 with HT technology will be
outdated when Vista is released. Not many of you can
remember 4K Basic but it got the job done.
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Bloated "Visual" languages are to blame
by ddesy September 7, 2005 6:04 AM PDT
The reason that software, including operating systems like, are so bloated clearly has to do with the change of programming style. Things like that 4K BASIC were so small because they were coded for efficiency. Use of assembly language can do a great deal for reducing code size and improving speed. Even pure C and C++ aren't bad.

Newer "Visual" languages seem to take away the willingness of the average programmer to put time into making their programs efficient. I have talked to a number that insist that the efficiency isn't as important today because of the amount of computing power. But just think how much more power would be available to the end user if the programs were as efficient as those old ones...
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Hello .... anyone home.....????
by September 4, 2005 10:56 AM PDT
Folks, all Microsoft is tring to do is sell more hardware. Your
single processor 3 Ghz Pentium 4 with HT technology will be
outdated when Vista is released. Not many of you can
remember 4K Basic but it got the job done.
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Bloated "Visual" languages are to blame
by ddesy September 7, 2005 6:04 AM PDT
The reason that software, including operating systems like, are so bloated clearly has to do with the change of programming style. Things like that 4K BASIC were so small because they were coded for efficiency. Use of assembly language can do a great deal for reducing code size and improving speed. Even pure C and C++ aren't bad.

Newer "Visual" languages seem to take away the willingness of the average programmer to put time into making their programs efficient. I have talked to a number that insist that the efficiency isn't as important today because of the amount of computing power. But just think how much more power would be available to the end user if the programs were as efficient as those old ones...
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