cnet has done a huge disservice to their readers by their characterization of Intel. Yeah, Intel came up short in Tom's Hardware's benchmark, but that was a freakin' year ago! Helloooo!! there is a new product out, called Core Duo. It's not two CPU's slapped into one package like last year's stuff. It's two CPU's built on the same die, with a shared cache that trumps AMD's crossbar switch for inter-cpu communication. It is also a LAPTOP chip that almost holds its own, clock for clock, against AMD's DESKTOP chip! Just wait till the desktop version comes out. It'll blow away the competition, and that's probably why Skype picked Intel, and probably why Apple did too. Steve Jobs isn't exactly a dummy when it comes to computers! So let's quit living in the past. Core Duo (yonah) is the latest stuff, and it's actually pretty good, and there's more coming too
I will NEVER as long as I live buy another Intel product. I would feel like I'm supporting a bunch of underhand crooks if I do so. I've already mailed Skype a stinging email.
Now if I can just find another company doing free internet voice calls.....
If you want free VoIP then you can use Yahoo Chat, Google Talk, MSN, etc. But it is only free if it is ocmputer-to-computer. Skype isn't free unless it is computer-to-computer.
To make a free VoIP conference call with Yahoo Chat:
"How do I start a voice conference?
To start a voice conference:
Click the "Actions" menu in Yahoo! Messenger and select the "Invite to Conference" option. Select friends or groups from the list and click the "Add" button. Include an optional message. Check the "Enable Voice Chat for this conference" option to enable the voice feature. Finally click the "Invite" button to start the conference."
I will NEVER as long as I live buy another Intel product. I would feel like I'm supporting a bunch of underhand crooks if I do so. I've already mailed Skype a stinging email.
Now if I can just find another company doing free internet voice calls.....
If you want free VoIP then you can use Yahoo Chat, Google Talk, MSN, etc. But it is only free if it is ocmputer-to-computer. Skype isn't free unless it is computer-to-computer.
To make a free VoIP conference call with Yahoo Chat:
"How do I start a voice conference?
To start a voice conference:
Click the "Actions" menu in Yahoo! Messenger and select the "Invite to Conference" option. Select friends or groups from the list and click the "Add" button. Include an optional message. Check the "Enable Voice Chat for this conference" option to enable the voice feature. Finally click the "Invite" button to start the conference."
Lets say Intel pays for the optimization of software to support dual-core chips. They pay for the biggest and best software. . .Skype being the first. The only cavet is that these software upgrades have to be exclusive to Intel (and software probally will have nice DUAL CORE ready stickers too).
Sounds like smart marketing to me. I don't see anything wrong with it (AMD could pay companies as well, but they don't have as much cash on hand)
But you have all these AMD zealots calling for boycotts and to email Skype with threats, but it is AMD's lack of action that is the reason for Skype working better with Intel than with AMD. Zealots, wake up or **** you crybabies.
Lets say Intel pays for the optimization of software to support dual-core chips. They pay for the biggest and best software. . .Skype being the first. The only cavet is that these software upgrades have to be exclusive to Intel (and software probally will have nice DUAL CORE ready stickers too).
Sounds like smart marketing to me. I don't see anything wrong with it (AMD could pay companies as well, but they don't have as much cash on hand)
But you have all these AMD zealots calling for boycotts and to email Skype with threats, but it is AMD's lack of action that is the reason for Skype working better with Intel than with AMD. Zealots, wake up or **** you crybabies.
How many times did Intel sue AMD in the past? Let the jury decide. . .but just because you have enough money to file a lawsuit doesn't mean much to me.
If I had a comptetitor that consistnintly made 90% of the revenue in my market . . . I would sue them to :)
How many times did Intel sue AMD in the past? Let the jury decide. . .but just because you have enough money to file a lawsuit doesn't mean much to me.
If I had a comptetitor that consistnintly made 90% of the revenue in my market . . . I would sue them to :)
The AMD zealots are out in full force for this one. Who knew that all these AMD zealots would need the capability to make a 10 person call that they are on this board calling for boycotts?
The AMD zealots are out in full force for this one. Who knew that all these AMD zealots would need the capability to make a 10 person call that they are on this board calling for boycotts?
1) This has nothing to do with Skype. Skype+Intel is pretty smoothe marketing, not anti-trust
2) You are misrepresenting the facts. Cnet.com news states "It was an unscheduled visit on Wednesday, but it took place during business hours. The KFTC officials wanted further information and documentation on Intel's business practices,"
So get your facts straight and don't believe everything you read on the internet.
1) This has nothing to do with Skype. Skype+Intel is pretty smoothe marketing, not anti-trust
2) You are misrepresenting the facts. Cnet.com news states "It was an unscheduled visit on Wednesday, but it took place during business hours. The KFTC officials wanted further information and documentation on Intel's business practices,"
So get your facts straight and don't believe everything you read on the internet.
This move by Skype, even if initiated by Intel, is just plain stupid. Why alienate a large population of the PC market -- laptop and desktop. At this point Dell is just about the only computer manufacturer holdout that does not offer an AMD based model. Is this kind of behavior what we can expect from a company that is now owned by eBay? If I was a VoIP competitor like Google or Yahoo I would go partner with AMD to offer a similar fake performance bias and sucker punch Skype.
Intel sells 80-85% of the processors in the global pc market making 90% of its revenue. Amd, then, is somewhere between 20-0 (I don't know exactly) because it shares that bottom 20 with Cyrix, IBM, etc.
I would not argue that a "PC enthusisast" is more likely to buy AMD . . . BUT. . . 1) they are a small share of the market 2) they do not reflect corporate buying of pc(s).
Companies like Microsoft may worry about a 10% hit on sales in a competitive market. A company like Adobe though may see Intel Marketing dollars and a Intel campagin well worth taking a small hit in units for the few users that 1)buy AMD 2) decide to take a stand
This move by Skype, even if initiated by Intel, is just plain stupid. Why alienate a large population of the PC market -- laptop and desktop. At this point Dell is just about the only computer manufacturer holdout that does not offer an AMD based model. Is this kind of behavior what we can expect from a company that is now owned by eBay? If I was a VoIP competitor like Google or Yahoo I would go partner with AMD to offer a similar fake performance bias and sucker punch Skype.
Intel sells 80-85% of the processors in the global pc market making 90% of its revenue. Amd, then, is somewhere between 20-0 (I don't know exactly) because it shares that bottom 20 with Cyrix, IBM, etc.
I would not argue that a "PC enthusisast" is more likely to buy AMD . . . BUT. . . 1) they are a small share of the market 2) they do not reflect corporate buying of pc(s).
Companies like Microsoft may worry about a 10% hit on sales in a competitive market. A company like Adobe though may see Intel Marketing dollars and a Intel campagin well worth taking a small hit in units for the few users that 1)buy AMD 2) decide to take a stand
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Now if I can just find another company doing free internet voice calls.....
many of skype's features, such as calls in/out from pstn (cheaper than skype out, i believe). built on SIP, integrated w/ google maps, etc.
To make a free VoIP conference call with Yahoo Chat:
"How do I start a voice conference?
To start a voice conference:
Click the "Actions" menu in Yahoo! Messenger and select the "Invite to Conference" option.
Select friends or groups from the list and click the "Add" button.
Include an optional message.
Check the "Enable Voice Chat for this conference" option to enable the voice feature.
Finally click the "Invite" button to start the conference."
Now if I can just find another company doing free internet voice calls.....
many of skype's features, such as calls in/out from pstn (cheaper than skype out, i believe). built on SIP, integrated w/ google maps, etc.
To make a free VoIP conference call with Yahoo Chat:
"How do I start a voice conference?
To start a voice conference:
Click the "Actions" menu in Yahoo! Messenger and select the "Invite to Conference" option.
Select friends or groups from the list and click the "Add" button.
Include an optional message.
Check the "Enable Voice Chat for this conference" option to enable the voice feature.
Finally click the "Invite" button to start the conference."
Sounds like smart marketing to me. I don't see anything wrong with it (AMD could pay companies as well, but they don't have as much cash on hand)
email Skype with threats, but it is AMD's lack of action that is the
reason for Skype working better with Intel than with AMD.
Zealots, wake up or **** you crybabies.
Sounds like smart marketing to me. I don't see anything wrong with it (AMD could pay companies as well, but they don't have as much cash on hand)
email Skype with threats, but it is AMD's lack of action that is the
reason for Skype working better with Intel than with AMD.
Zealots, wake up or **** you crybabies.
If I had a comptetitor that consistnintly made 90% of the revenue in my market . . . I would sue them to :)
If I had a comptetitor that consistnintly made 90% of the revenue in my market . . . I would sue them to :)
dual core now!
dual core now!
all these AMD zealots would need the capability to make a 10
person call that they are on this board calling for boycotts?
all these AMD zealots would need the capability to make a 10
person call that they are on this board calling for boycotts?
Japanese, Europeans had done it and uncovered a ton of criminal records, now Koreans have done it. Will US do it?
2) You are misrepresenting the facts. Cnet.com news states "It was an unscheduled visit on Wednesday, but it took place during business hours. The KFTC officials wanted further information and documentation on Intel's business practices,"
So get your facts straight and don't believe everything you read on the internet.
Japanese, Europeans had done it and uncovered a ton of criminal records, now Koreans have done it. Will US do it?
2) You are misrepresenting the facts. Cnet.com news states "It was an unscheduled visit on Wednesday, but it took place during business hours. The KFTC officials wanted further information and documentation on Intel's business practices,"
So get your facts straight and don't believe everything you read on the internet.
I would not argue that a "PC enthusisast" is more likely to buy AMD . . . BUT. . . 1) they are a small share of the market 2) they do not reflect corporate buying of pc(s).
Companies like Microsoft may worry about a 10% hit on sales in a competitive market. A company like Adobe though may see Intel Marketing dollars and a Intel campagin well worth taking a small hit in units for the few users that 1)buy AMD 2) decide to take a stand
I would not argue that a "PC enthusisast" is more likely to buy AMD . . . BUT. . . 1) they are a small share of the market 2) they do not reflect corporate buying of pc(s).
Companies like Microsoft may worry about a 10% hit on sales in a competitive market. A company like Adobe though may see Intel Marketing dollars and a Intel campagin well worth taking a small hit in units for the few users that 1)buy AMD 2) decide to take a stand
quality, Im pleased.
Maybe Skype perfromance depends on the quality and speed of
your internet service.
quality, Im pleased.
Maybe Skype perfromance depends on the quality and speed of
your internet service.
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.openwengo.com/" target="_newWindow">http://www.openwengo.com/</a>
Open Source and uses the SIP protocol.
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.openwengo.com/" target="_newWindow">http://www.openwengo.com/</a>
Open Source and uses the SIP protocol.