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California man faces up to 30 years in prison if convicted on charges he defrauded America Online customers.

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Victims getting what they deserve
by thenet411 January 26, 2006 10:39 PM PST
Ignorance of "this new digital age" is no excuse for being an absolute idiot. If someone came up to one of these victims on the street and said "The sky is going to fall if you don't tell 10 other people that it will happen and then they tell 10 more and so on and so on" the victim would look up, say "No its not" and go about their business. But, when the same information gets to them by email, they comply like mindless goons! Like getting the information via email makes it any more credible. There are so many signs that these things are fraudulent. Look at the links you are given to "update your information". Most of the time, they are nothing more than IP addresses. Others actually use the name of a real financial institution in the URL but look closer and its bogus. For example, I just got an email from "Chase" bank and it said that I needed to update my information. When I hovered over the link to update my info, it actually had a URL with chase in the URL but a bunch of other crap that made it obvious it was bogus. Not to mention, dear little brains (thats what smart people call you behind your back), FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS DO NOT ASK YOU TO UPDATE YOUR INFORMATION VIA EMAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO REPUTABLE COMPANY DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!! Learn it, live it, keep your money. Don't, and you get what you deserve.
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Are you kidding?
by tony_z January 27, 2006 12:38 AM PST
You can't blame any one except for the phishers. The internet is here to serves the customers, and not the customers to serve the internet. Average web users can't distinguish what is real or fake, especially, when the scam emails and websites look similar to the original.

If the government promotes that any one can use internet, then the "any one" web users shouldn't be the victims of internet crimes.
What a load of crap
by Johnet123 January 27, 2006 8:28 AM PST
You assume that everyone who uses the Internet is a tower of
intellect, as in the way you portray yourself. Unfortunately, there
are many people who know little, if anything, about networking
and URL mysteries.

Maybe, instead of blaming the victims of Internet scams for
being for being idiots, you should use your towering intellect to
devise a solution.

Sadly, people who blame victims of crimes for their misfortune
are never there when it comes time to devise solutions. Given
you mentality, if you get hit by a car while walking across the
street, in the crosswalk, it is your fault because you should have
known that the driver of the car that hit you was incompetent.
Bring back the pillory!
by Mister C January 27, 2006 5:24 PM PST
For the most part AOL'ers are not the most technically adroit of computer users, or they would not be with AOL in the first place. So to blame them for their ignorance is really quite elitist and arrogant.

This is akin to the seniors who are constantly being swindled by high pressure con artists. To take advantage of the weakest is truly despicable but then to blame them for being trusting is unconscionable.

I am not a violent person but this type of thing makes me see red. If ever there was a reason to have a good old public caning this (and other types predatory behavior) is it.

Harsh Huh?
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Victims getting what they deserve
by thenet411 January 26, 2006 10:39 PM PST
Ignorance of "this new digital age" is no excuse for being an absolute idiot. If someone came up to one of these victims on the street and said "The sky is going to fall if you don't tell 10 other people that it will happen and then they tell 10 more and so on and so on" the victim would look up, say "No its not" and go about their business. But, when the same information gets to them by email, they comply like mindless goons! Like getting the information via email makes it any more credible. There are so many signs that these things are fraudulent. Look at the links you are given to "update your information". Most of the time, they are nothing more than IP addresses. Others actually use the name of a real financial institution in the URL but look closer and its bogus. For example, I just got an email from "Chase" bank and it said that I needed to update my information. When I hovered over the link to update my info, it actually had a URL with chase in the URL but a bunch of other crap that made it obvious it was bogus. Not to mention, dear little brains (thats what smart people call you behind your back), FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS DO NOT ASK YOU TO UPDATE YOUR INFORMATION VIA EMAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO REPUTABLE COMPANY DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!! Learn it, live it, keep your money. Don't, and you get what you deserve.
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Are you kidding?
by tony_z January 27, 2006 12:38 AM PST
You can't blame any one except for the phishers. The internet is here to serves the customers, and not the customers to serve the internet. Average web users can't distinguish what is real or fake, especially, when the scam emails and websites look similar to the original.

If the government promotes that any one can use internet, then the "any one" web users shouldn't be the victims of internet crimes.
What a load of crap
by Johnet123 January 27, 2006 8:28 AM PST
You assume that everyone who uses the Internet is a tower of
intellect, as in the way you portray yourself. Unfortunately, there
are many people who know little, if anything, about networking
and URL mysteries.

Maybe, instead of blaming the victims of Internet scams for
being for being idiots, you should use your towering intellect to
devise a solution.

Sadly, people who blame victims of crimes for their misfortune
are never there when it comes time to devise solutions. Given
you mentality, if you get hit by a car while walking across the
street, in the crosswalk, it is your fault because you should have
known that the driver of the car that hit you was incompetent.
Bring back the pillory!
by Mister C January 27, 2006 5:24 PM PST
For the most part AOL'ers are not the most technically adroit of computer users, or they would not be with AOL in the first place. So to blame them for their ignorance is really quite elitist and arrogant.

This is akin to the seniors who are constantly being swindled by high pressure con artists. To take advantage of the weakest is truly despicable but then to blame them for being trusting is unconscionable.

I am not a violent person but this type of thing makes me see red. If ever there was a reason to have a good old public caning this (and other types predatory behavior) is it.

Harsh Huh?
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Internet ID Thief
by JayPee43 January 27, 2006 7:17 AM PST
I'm glad someone is doing something about this problem. They almost got me over a year ago when I received an official looking ebay email asking for information. I got to the point of filling up and entering all sensitive information but before I sent it I had a nagging suspicion that I shouldn't be doing this. I can't really blame some of the people who fall prey to these scammers because not everyone is as savvy or quick to realize that there is something wrong. Although I hate chain emails, I wish someone would send one of them about "phishing" so a lot of people would be more aware of this problem.
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Internet ID Thief
by JayPee43 January 27, 2006 7:17 AM PST
I'm glad someone is doing something about this problem. They almost got me over a year ago when I received an official looking ebay email asking for information. I got to the point of filling up and entering all sensitive information but before I sent it I had a nagging suspicion that I shouldn't be doing this. I can't really blame some of the people who fall prey to these scammers because not everyone is as savvy or quick to realize that there is something wrong. Although I hate chain emails, I wish someone would send one of them about "phishing" so a lot of people would be more aware of this problem.
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How dumb?
by ssovine January 27, 2006 10:39 AM PST
First of all if people get emails requesting their credit card information they should never fill it out. If AOL or EBAY email you about billing information, they will direct you to their official websites. DO NOT ENTER CREDIT CARD INFORMATION IN AN EMAIL, THAT IS STUPID. Go to aol.com or ebay.com and go to the billing station site.
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How dumb?
by ssovine January 27, 2006 10:39 AM PST
First of all if people get emails requesting their credit card information they should never fill it out. If AOL or EBAY email you about billing information, they will direct you to their official websites. DO NOT ENTER CREDIT CARD INFORMATION IN AN EMAIL, THAT IS STUPID. Go to aol.com or ebay.com and go to the billing station site.
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agreed
by jamesmadison909 January 27, 2006 10:56 AM PST
I totally agree with your sentiment.

I know many of them use known loopholes in IE security to even spoof the URL.

The scams prey on people with a good, trusting nature, the ones that want to pay their bills on time and not have their services cut off.

To blame the victims of phishing scams instead of the scammers themselves and is no better than blaming a robbery victim instead of the robber.

The bottom line is: these guys are criminals, and they should be punished appropriately for their crimes.
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agreed
by jamesmadison909 January 27, 2006 10:56 AM PST
I totally agree with your sentiment.

I know many of them use known loopholes in IE security to even spoof the URL.

The scams prey on people with a good, trusting nature, the ones that want to pay their bills on time and not have their services cut off.

To blame the victims of phishing scams instead of the scammers themselves and is no better than blaming a robbery victim instead of the robber.

The bottom line is: these guys are criminals, and they should be punished appropriately for their crimes.
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feds arrest internet id thief
by Sye230 January 28, 2006 11:58 PM PST
America Online is constantly warning us about giving out our billing information. I cannot believe that any America Online subscriber would be so stupid to do so.
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feds arrest internet id thief
by Sye230 January 28, 2006 11:58 PM PST
America Online is constantly warning us about giving out our billing information. I cannot believe that any America Online subscriber would be so stupid to do so.
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feds arrest internet id thief
by Sye230 January 28, 2006 11:58 PM PST
America Online is constantly warning us about giving out our billing information. I cannot believe that any America Online subscriber would be so stupid to do so.
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feds arrest internet id thief
by Sye230 January 28, 2006 11:58 PM PST
America Online is constantly warning us about giving out our billing information. I cannot believe that any America Online subscriber would be so stupid to do so.
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feds arrest internet id thief
by Sye230 January 28, 2006 11:58 PM PST
America Online is constantly warning us about giving out our billing information. I cannot believe that any America Online subscriber would be so stupid to do so.
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feds arrest internet id thief
by Sye230 January 28, 2006 11:58 PM PST
America Online is constantly warning us about giving out our billing information. I cannot believe that any America Online subscriber would be so stupid to do so.
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feds arrest internet id thief
by Sye230 January 28, 2006 11:59 PM PST
America Online is constantly warning us about giving out our billing information. I cannot believe that any America Online subscriber would be so stupid to do so.
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feds arrest internet id thief
by Sye230 January 28, 2006 11:59 PM PST
America Online is constantly warning us about giving out our billing information. I cannot believe that any America Online subscriber would be so stupid to do so.
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