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Group called 419 Flash Mob has started denial-of-service attacks against Web sites they claim are used by Internet criminals.

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AWESOME!
by February 10, 2005 9:37 AM PST
I'd like to be the first to say that we need more of these vigilante groups kicking the crap out of the scammers... If the government can't/wont do anything about the bastards, then the people SHOULD!

No more will the scammers prey on the uninformed, weak, and gullible.
I applaud your efforts vigilantes... and wish you continued success in knocking these guys offline!

/end rant.
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Hmmm.
by February 10, 2005 10:52 AM PST
You're one of the few that would hope more of these groups develop and take on tasks no one else is willing to do. I'm one too. I think that "hackers" have been given a bad name. A lot of them go after corporations for particular reasons, usually for poor and unethical employee treatment.

Let's hope these guys can knock these scammers off line.
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Completely Disagree
by David Arbogast February 10, 2005 2:52 PM PST
Vigilantism is illegal. It can only be justified by ignoring valid and worthwhile laws. I disagree with your sentiment, and would never, ever support this type of behavior. The solution to illegal crimes is not to add more criminals to the mix. Not by a long shot.
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Sign me up
by February 10, 2005 11:37 AM PST
Hit 'em up, fellas.
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DOS for phish sites as well
by VbMan February 10, 2005 1:48 PM PST
I got an email to fix my pwrd at a bank I dont belong to, then it hit me, why dont I do a DOS attack on these phishers? I am glad truth is universal and someone is doing something about it.
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Easy Answer
by David Arbogast February 10, 2005 2:53 PM PST
<<why dont I do a DOS attack on these phishers?>>

Because, they would prosecute you, and win. Then, a phishing organization gains validation under the law, and a frustrated person such as yourself ends up in jail.

Brilliant. Ignoring the law is not the solution.
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DDoS for Hire?
by February 10, 2005 4:36 PM PST
I don't know about this really. Yeah sure it is a good idea to fight back but all this is starting to sound the DDoS Mafia that the NYPD caught last year. So what do you do? Do you go up to the Don and kiss his cable modem so he can make you an offer you can't refuse?? What the...??

RAMCable
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two thoughts
by February 11, 2005 7:30 AM PST
1) What if these or some other well meaning folks accidentally launch a bandwidth attack on a real bank or credible institution with a similar sounding name? Maybe not this time, but maybe next time.

2) If this idea takes off, will the lawful authorities eventually have to split their time between going after the vigilantes and the spammer criminals?
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criminals?
by Ubber geek June 8, 2007 8:34 AM PDT
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The Wild West was tamed by hired guns...
by landlines February 15, 2005 8:00 AM PST
Wyatt Earp, Doc Holiday, et al. weren't really the kinds of folks you'd want running your city hall in a modern metropolis.

But they filled a real need and tamed the Wild West. So the idea is a valid one...and certainly not unprecedented...even if there are a few troubling aspects to be worked out.

We need to provide a way to charter Web Deputies, Bounty-Hunters, etc. to take on the Spam-Vandals, Phishers, and other criminals who use the Web for evil purposes.

Maybe we need to start with a "Hanging Judge" chartered by the Attorney General with powers to deputize hunters, authorize bounties, and enlist specialized organizations as "hired guns" to take down the worst spammers by any means necessary. Hanging offenses would include running an unauthorized program on a machine belonging to someone else, "grand theft" of community bandwidth by causing more than "xxxx" unsolicited messages to be sent in any 24 hour period, etc.

By using subcontractors, creating 'reward funds', and instituting 'tips hotlines', we can defeat these jerks using the same models we have used in the past to make our physical streets safer.
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