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Technology that may be used for a national ID card could take the form of a chip loaded onto a driver's license.

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GL identity
by alligatorman February 16, 2006 4:22 PM PST
We need a standardized Drivers license across the USA Would eliminate a lot of problems,Just make it a national permit card with data for all the things a citizen is licensed to operate or do.
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Yea, then...
by February 16, 2006 5:42 PM PST
The next thing we should do is require everyone to register all their guns by going door to door and doing searches of property without warrants. After that, we should also require everyone to register their computers and set up a national censor office to keep people from saying things against the government and to filter the information available on the internet on a national basis. While we're at it, let's set up "Green Zones" where we phase out the human population in those zones. Oh, and one more thing, let's require the national I.D. chip to contain all the information about who is licensed to buy and sell goods for gain in what locations so that cities can get there "sales tax" cut of others' work.

I have just one question. Where did my country go?
Some people DO NOT get it...
by Had_to_be_said February 16, 2006 5:47 PM PST
This has NOTHING to do with "drivers-licenses".

This is about a National-ID-card, and giving the government, AND businesses, the ability to track EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN.

It is merely being attached to "drivers-licenses" to FORCE most people into accepting it. This IS the national BIOMETRIC-database that corrupt politicians, with TOTALITARIAN-DREAMS, have been drooling over for decades, ...even though it is a CLEAR VIOLATION of the Constitution.

Basically, these are the state-issued papers that you will HAVE TO carry, merely to walk down a public-street, or conduct ANY commercial transaction, what-so-ever.

In other words, we will be effectively tagged like cattle, and have to carry an "internal-passport', ...or else.

This is a VIOLATION of every Americans BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS. And, I for one will NEVER have one, ...whatever the consequences.

GOVERNMENT EDICTS, BE-DAMNED.
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Naional ID
by jake_n February 16, 2006 6:31 PM PST
and everyone will be asigned a number without which they will be ????????? It has been a while since I've read the last book in the Bible.
You're one of those people
by mortis9 February 16, 2006 7:37 PM PST
Just another conspiracy theorist with no knowledge of the constitution, spouting off about protections it doesn't have. How, praytell, is this a violation of "human rights" (not something accorded in the constitution)? I imagine you're trying to say that its a violation of the 4th amendment - right to privacy. Sorry bub, that won't fly.

I'm just gonna it very simple. This is legal and here is why: 1) State law permits mandatory identification in order to use state services (that'd be your Driver's license or Identification Card), 2) The supreme court has ruled consistently that Federal Law, if constitutional, supercedes State laws, 3) This would be just such a thing. No need for a constitutional amendment, simple Federal legislation would allow this to be implemented. Oh and wouldn't you know, it has been!!!
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Foolish $$$ Aristos
by Blito February 17, 2006 5:31 AM PST
More waste of taxpayers dollars, as it wont work. The only people who would like this are the reality 'TV' show Aristos making exorbitant amounts of money off of privacy invasion and state run mind control.

Just use the Internet and keep it legal or at least free by going to www.eff.com and setting STANDARDS like with free software and fair licensing. If the hardware and software is open source then they can?t spy on us at least easily. If hardware or software is closed then we don?t know what's in it and we don?t actually own it.
Check out what Sun is doing with their UltraSpark T1 chip as they are open sourcing it under the GPL thank goodness.
Nano-tech will never work with out open sourcing it. To invasive.
Open source Nanotech to set standards on it!
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The US got it all wrong
by February 17, 2006 10:24 AM PST
PhotoIDs for identification purposes and on-line authentication keys have entirely different use-cases and rely on different technologies (plastic versus silicon). It is a bad idea to put them in the same "container" as a card has no place to go in standard PCs and in mobile devices. Never will either.

Effectively we are also talking about $50 in added cost by not using mobbile phones as carriers for authentication keys.

The phones may at the same time support multiple IDs and different authentication technlogies. A card usually only supports a single ID and authentication technology.

Words to remember: TPM, NFC and WI-FI. These things pulverize cards as authenticators.
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re: The US got it all wrong
by J_Satch February 17, 2006 11:14 AM PST
So do we mandate that all US citizens have mobile phones? Believe it or not, lots of people, myself included, don't have or want a mobile phone. Had one once but didn't like paying fees to be on a leash...
One card, one country. The Federal ID Card
by rtaggert February 17, 2006 1:19 PM PST
The Real ID Card might be a snag for individuals that use a vacation home address as their primary address to take advantage of out of state traffic violations (Nonresident Violator) and to send their subpoenas on vacation (out-of-state subpoena process). Paranoiacs might be more afraid of federal databases on the account of a federal ID. However, in addition to an improvement on our system of personal identification, most will find it offers convenience, practicality and provides increased identity security for travel and business.
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