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The State Department says tiny tracking chips will be put in passports starting next year, despite concerns over privacy.

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Want Privacy? Become An Illegal
by Stating October 30, 2005 7:35 PM PST
The perversity of life today in a 1st World Country is that to maintain privacy you have to:
a) Sneak into a 3rd World Country then
b) Sneak back into a 1st World Country, whereby you become "undocumented" and have complete privacy. "Jose", the undocumented day laborer standing around on the corner of 3rd in San Mateo has a hell of a lot more privacy than I do. Is he worried about his chipped passport? Hell no.

Like gun control where only outlaws have guns, documentation means only the documented are documented. Orwellian twisted logic isn't it?
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Want Privacy? Become An Illegal
by Stating October 30, 2005 7:35 PM PST
The perversity of life today in a 1st World Country is that to maintain privacy you have to:
a) Sneak into a 3rd World Country then
b) Sneak back into a 1st World Country, whereby you become "undocumented" and have complete privacy. "Jose", the undocumented day laborer standing around on the corner of 3rd in San Mateo has a hell of a lot more privacy than I do. Is he worried about his chipped passport? Hell no.

Like gun control where only outlaws have guns, documentation means only the documented are documented. Orwellian twisted logic isn't it?
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Why limit it to passports?
by Jim Harmon October 31, 2005 12:20 AM PST
Why not just embed an RFID in a person's forehead or hand? ;) Sure, today it's a joke - but what's to stop it from happening?
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If people stealing your identity through RFID keeps you up at night...
by RyanShore November 24, 2005 7:44 AM PST
If the idea of RFID tags being remotely read concerns you definitely need to check out http://www.emvelope.com/ you can protect your self from this for $10. The product is also really easy to use.
Why limit it to passports?
by Jim Harmon October 31, 2005 12:20 AM PST
Why not just embed an RFID in a person's forehead or hand? ;) Sure, today it's a joke - but what's to stop it from happening?
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If people stealing your identity through RFID keeps you up at night...
by RyanShore November 24, 2005 7:44 AM PST
If the idea of RFID tags being remotely read concerns you definitely need to check out http://www.emvelope.com/ you can protect your self from this for $10. The product is also really easy to use.
Passport biometrics
by usaorthehiway November 1, 2005 11:26 AM PST
I work for U.S. Customs and Border Protection at a major land port of entry along the southwest border. I believe that despite the shortcomings, the addition of biometric data such as fingerprints or iris scans to identity documents such as U.S. passports is a great idea. An impostor to a document that has biometric data could argue with me all day about his true identity, but he would have an awful tough time explaining how another person's fingerprint got onto the document he is presenting.

Despite whatever the conspiracy theorists might have you believe, I really cannot imagine why anyone would think the government gives a damn about what individuals are doing. As long as your travels and other activities are for legitimate purposes, so what if big brother is watching? I would only be concerned if I felt I had something to hide!
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I am so glad you dont mind being a SLAVE...
by Had_to_be_said November 1, 2005 6:34 PM PST
But, I am not so stupid as to believe that many Politicians, and the boot-licking lackeys that support their actions, arent the self-interested, un-American crooks that they are proving themselves to be.

Furthermore, I swore to defend America against ALL enemies, foreign AND domestic. And this "Big Brother" CRAP which, despite the many, carefully-coached and often-repeated, MORONIC-DISMISSALS, is NOT just a "conspiracy theory". It IS happening now. And, make no mistake, it IS enslavement, whether you, "...have something to hide", or not.

Furthermore, more and more Americans are finally seeing this, steady and calculated, totalitarianism, and the corruption behind it, for what it truly is, ...TREASON, against the Constitution, and the American-people.
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Passport biometrics
by usaorthehiway November 1, 2005 11:26 AM PST
I work for U.S. Customs and Border Protection at a major land port of entry along the southwest border. I believe that despite the shortcomings, the addition of biometric data such as fingerprints or iris scans to identity documents such as U.S. passports is a great idea. An impostor to a document that has biometric data could argue with me all day about his true identity, but he would have an awful tough time explaining how another person's fingerprint got onto the document he is presenting.

Despite whatever the conspiracy theorists might have you believe, I really cannot imagine why anyone would think the government gives a damn about what individuals are doing. As long as your travels and other activities are for legitimate purposes, so what if big brother is watching? I would only be concerned if I felt I had something to hide!
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I am so glad you dont mind being a SLAVE...
by Had_to_be_said November 1, 2005 6:34 PM PST
But, I am not so stupid as to believe that many Politicians, and the boot-licking lackeys that support their actions, arent the self-interested, un-American crooks that they are proving themselves to be.

Furthermore, I swore to defend America against ALL enemies, foreign AND domestic. And this "Big Brother" CRAP which, despite the many, carefully-coached and often-repeated, MORONIC-DISMISSALS, is NOT just a "conspiracy theory". It IS happening now. And, make no mistake, it IS enslavement, whether you, "...have something to hide", or not.

Furthermore, more and more Americans are finally seeing this, steady and calculated, totalitarianism, and the corruption behind it, for what it truly is, ...TREASON, against the Constitution, and the American-people.
Using the UN when it helps their goals.
by jmhm2003 November 1, 2005 12:39 PM PST
I like how the Bush gang references the UN when it helps achieve
their questionable goals, such as these passports. The rest of the
time they ignore it completely, while invading Iraq, or try to tear it
down with the Oil for Food program investigation.

It's nice how the land of the free is becoming the land of the
watched.
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Using the UN when it helps their goals.
by jmhm2003 November 1, 2005 12:39 PM PST
I like how the Bush gang references the UN when it helps achieve
their questionable goals, such as these passports. The rest of the
time they ignore it completely, while invading Iraq, or try to tear it
down with the Oil for Food program investigation.

It's nice how the land of the free is becoming the land of the
watched.
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RFID Chips or Contactless Smart Chip?
by kwok76 November 8, 2005 2:36 PM PST
I believe the embedded chip was Contactless Smart Chip rather than RFID chip for passport, may be i'm wrong, may be they the same thing? Contactless Smart chip runs in a lower frequency range rather than the likes of RFID tags.

I believe Contactless smart card technology uses very complex microcontroller based technology which has many security techniques and it ensures the integrity, privacy and confidentiality of information stored and transmitted.

I'm not to sure what is RFID chips? but i have heard of RFID tags, lables etc.
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RFID Chips or Contactless Smart Chip?
by kwok76 November 8, 2005 2:36 PM PST
I believe the embedded chip was Contactless Smart Chip rather than RFID chip for passport, may be i'm wrong, may be they the same thing? Contactless Smart chip runs in a lower frequency range rather than the likes of RFID tags.

I believe Contactless smart card technology uses very complex microcontroller based technology which has many security techniques and it ensures the integrity, privacy and confidentiality of information stored and transmitted.

I'm not to sure what is RFID chips? but i have heard of RFID tags, lables etc.
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If people stealing your identity through RFID concerns you...
by RyanShore November 24, 2005 7:35 AM PST
If the idea of RFID tags being remotely read concerns you definitely need to check out http://www.emvelope.com/ you can protect your self from this for $10. The product is also really easy to use.
Reply to this comment
If people stealing your identity through RFID concerns you...
by RyanShore November 24, 2005 7:35 AM PST
If the idea of RFID tags being remotely read concerns you definitely need to check out http://www.emvelope.com/ you can protect your self from this for $10. The product is also really easy to use.
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PASSPORTS TO GET RFID CHIP IMPLANTS
by azmicitizen February 10, 2008 12:10 AM PST
As a computer professional, I don't believe that that the government can ever secure our privacy with anything as insecure as RFID Chips. I believe that the RFID chip is not to protect us from terror but to contain us if we disrupt the status quo. A lovely way to know who we are, where we are around the globe at anytime. Give the terrorists the RFID Chip implants and you can keep track of them!

What a waste of tax payers money! Another inefficient and totally absurd effort to shepherd us like cattle to slaughter.

Does anyone remember the movie "Solent Green"?

Enough said.
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PASSPORTS TO GET RFID CHIP IMPLANTS
by azmicitizen February 10, 2008 12:10 AM PST
As a computer professional, I don't believe that that the government can ever secure our privacy with anything as insecure as RFID Chips. I believe that the RFID chip is not to protect us from terror but to contain us if we disrupt the status quo. A lovely way to know who we are, where we are around the globe at anytime. Give the terrorists the RFID Chip implants and you can keep track of them!

What a waste of tax payers money! Another inefficient and totally absurd effort to shepherd us like cattle to slaughter.

Does anyone remember the movie "Solent Green"?

Enough said.
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by johnadams1776 December 27, 2008 7:56 AM PST
how much of our freedoms do we have to give up for safety. this is clearly the parinoia of the people and we need to learn. when you let your government track your movements from what you buy to where you go on vacation, you will let the government from the nazi era or worse have control . Our forefathers wrote provisions in our constitution for these exact reasons. we need to drop this rfid chip solution and just learn to use more than the 8-10% of our brains for the fight on terror and safety. Like the police investingating a crime tracks a criminal, he uses his detective skills to solve the problem.
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by camilledenoir27 December 12, 2009 11:09 AM PST
I just thought, if you have my name, nationality, sex, date of birth, place of birth and digitized photograph what can you do other than go around saying you're me?
I doubt you can buy anything in my name with that information...

So to conclude have it all, i don't mind :d have fun inpersonating me the government can't find me then 8)

but the finger print and iris scan i'll resist at all costs, just say NO! Even if i can't leave my country but let's face it Britain in a dire state and needs all her people right now and i beleive America is in a similar way. We've got a job to :D
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