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update Court passes sentence on German teen who admitted creating the worm that wreaked havoc in thousands of PCs.

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Lame, LAME, VERY LAME!
by aabcdefghij987654321 July 8, 2005 6:39 AM PDT
The kid causes millions of dollars in damages to computers and networks worldwide, releases his code to others who have continued to write variants which still plague the net today and yet the prosecutors ask for a short suspended sentence and the judge gives an even shorter one? Not to mention the idiots at the company which hired this kid.

Don't they have a clue? Do they understand they just said to all the like minded idiots all over the world that it's cool to write viruses because there's no real penalty for authoring such evil and there are definite rewards (such as the job)?

How many more lame brained prosecutions and judgements are we going to have to see before we see a real prosecution followed by a judgement which says "This is not ok"?
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Who caused millions of dollars in damage?
by July 8, 2005 8:05 AM PDT
I take a little exception with the above comment. While it is true
that this lad's handy work did some serious damage, I'd actually
argue that Microsoft caused the loss of millions of dollars in
productivity. Had it not been for the intrinsic uselessness of
Windows, there would have been nothing to take advantage of.
Those of us on a Linux / Mac network experienced no slowdown
or loss of productivity (perhaps there was even an increase since
we couldn't surf the web!).
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I think I have to agree with News here..
by July 8, 2005 10:55 AM PDT
I'm about as ticked off at MS as the next guy for being able to market an incredibly insecure OS to dominance. However, if you think realistically about the havoc that was caused with some services that are considered critical (transportation communication and maritime navigation) its not such a short (or radical)step to understanding that one day this "mischief" could kill someone, or perhaps, numbers of people.

Before that, or some other unfortunate tragedy is caused by what others apparently consider a trifle, those who create them need incentive to weigh carefully the legal penalties for their activity. That won't happen as long the penalties are insignificant.

This wasn't some "dumb kid." He was smart enough to exploit a vulnerability in code and create a worm that didn't need user intervention beyond a connection to the net. Don't tell me he wasn't smart enough to extrapolate to the potential of his act. It goes beyond gross irresponsibility to criminal behavior. Think I'm being to hard on him? I don't know...
Lame, LAME, VERY LAME!
by aabcdefghij987654321 July 8, 2005 6:39 AM PDT
The kid causes millions of dollars in damages to computers and networks worldwide, releases his code to others who have continued to write variants which still plague the net today and yet the prosecutors ask for a short suspended sentence and the judge gives an even shorter one? Not to mention the idiots at the company which hired this kid.

Don't they have a clue? Do they understand they just said to all the like minded idiots all over the world that it's cool to write viruses because there's no real penalty for authoring such evil and there are definite rewards (such as the job)?

How many more lame brained prosecutions and judgements are we going to have to see before we see a real prosecution followed by a judgement which says "This is not ok"?
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Who caused millions of dollars in damage?
by July 8, 2005 8:05 AM PDT
I take a little exception with the above comment. While it is true
that this lad's handy work did some serious damage, I'd actually
argue that Microsoft caused the loss of millions of dollars in
productivity. Had it not been for the intrinsic uselessness of
Windows, there would have been nothing to take advantage of.
Those of us on a Linux / Mac network experienced no slowdown
or loss of productivity (perhaps there was even an increase since
we couldn't surf the web!).
View all 2 replies
I think I have to agree with News here..
by July 8, 2005 10:55 AM PDT
I'm about as ticked off at MS as the next guy for being able to market an incredibly insecure OS to dominance. However, if you think realistically about the havoc that was caused with some services that are considered critical (transportation communication and maritime navigation) its not such a short (or radical)step to understanding that one day this "mischief" could kill someone, or perhaps, numbers of people.

Before that, or some other unfortunate tragedy is caused by what others apparently consider a trifle, those who create them need incentive to weigh carefully the legal penalties for their activity. That won't happen as long the penalties are insignificant.

This wasn't some "dumb kid." He was smart enough to exploit a vulnerability in code and create a worm that didn't need user intervention beyond a connection to the net. Don't tell me he wasn't smart enough to extrapolate to the potential of his act. It goes beyond gross irresponsibility to criminal behavior. Think I'm being to hard on him? I don't know...
A year and a half is plenty.
by July 8, 2005 8:12 AM PDT
A young, good looking kid in the slammer for a year and a half? Never been in prison myself, but from what I hear, a lot of very bad things could happen to a kid like that in a year and a half in prison.

Besides, obviously the kid authored the virus, but it's not soley his fault that it caused so much damage.

It's also Microsoft's.
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It is solely his fault
by aabcdefghij987654321 July 8, 2005 9:33 AM PDT
This kid didn't have to create a virus, he did so deliberately. Burglers don't have to break into your house and steal your stuff either, they do so deliberately. Obviously it's not your fault, even if you failed to completely lock down your house. If you can't tell the difference then you're just being deliberately ignorant.
BS
by July 8, 2005 11:49 AM PDT
10 years in prison isn't long enough.

This jack*** caused millions of dollars in damages and even more in pursuing and prosecuting him and he get away with probation? Even people caught pirating music have been penalized a lot more than this and caused far less damage.

What a joke.
A year and a half might be enough..
by Michael Grogan July 8, 2005 7:10 PM PDT
...if he actually had to serve it. He doesn't. He has to wait a year and a half before he writes another or risk serving it. All he has to do is 30 hours of community service. Less than a work week. I'm sure he's learned a VERY valuable lesson - along with all the other jerks like him. We should expect a large resurgence in virii written for purely malicious reasons after this pathetic sentence.
Not solely his fault?
by Jim Harmon July 10, 2005 12:56 AM PDT
And I suppose it's Ford's fault <mfr picked at random> that their windsheild breaks when a kid drops a cinder block on it from an overpass???

Nothing on this earth is perfect. Someone wanting to be malicious will be able to find a way, no matter what precautions are taken.
Fair as far as I've heard
by qazwiz July 9, 2005 12:12 PM PDT
Here in the USA the community service might have been 300 hours instead of just 30 but from the bits and pieces I've heard of this case I expected the suspended sentence.... which can be reinstated if the defendant gets into trouble in the, what is it a year and a half, or whatever

so there is a 19 year old who is about get a bunch of job offere for computer security/anti-hacking jobs
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Fair as far as I've heard
by qazwiz July 9, 2005 12:12 PM PDT
Here in the USA the community service might have been 300 hours instead of just 30 but from the bits and pieces I've heard of this case I expected the suspended sentence.... which can be reinstated if the defendant gets into trouble in the, what is it a year and a half, or whatever

so there is a 19 year old who is about get a bunch of job offere for computer security/anti-hacking jobs
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A year and a half is plenty.
by May 1, 2008 5:30 PM PDT
A young, good looking kid in the slammer for a year and a half? Never been in prison myself, but from what I hear, a lot of very bad things could happen to a kid like that in a year and a half in prison.

Besides, obviously the kid authored the virus, but it's not soley his fault that it caused so much damage.

It's also Microsoft's.
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It is solely his fault
by aabcdefghij987654321 July 8, 2005 9:33 AM PDT
This kid didn't have to create a virus, he did so deliberately. Burglers don't have to break into your house and steal your stuff either, they do so deliberately. Obviously it's not your fault, even if you failed to completely lock down your house. If you can't tell the difference then you're just being deliberately ignorant.
BS
by July 8, 2005 11:49 AM PDT
10 years in prison isn't long enough.

This jack*** caused millions of dollars in damages and even more in pursuing and prosecuting him and he get away with probation? Even people caught pirating music have been penalized a lot more than this and caused far less damage.

What a joke.
A year and a half might be enough..
by Michael Grogan July 8, 2005 7:10 PM PDT
...if he actually had to serve it. He doesn't. He has to wait a year and a half before he writes another or risk serving it. All he has to do is 30 hours of community service. Less than a work week. I'm sure he's learned a VERY valuable lesson - along with all the other jerks like him. We should expect a large resurgence in virii written for purely malicious reasons after this pathetic sentence.
Not solely his fault?
by Jim Harmon May 1, 2008 5:30 PM PDT
And I suppose it's Ford's fault <mfr picked at random> that their windsheild breaks when a kid drops a cinder block on it from an overpass???

Nothing on this earth is perfect. Someone wanting to be malicious will be able to find a way, no matter what precautions are taken.
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