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The Windows giant will support customers that run Red Hat and Suse Linux in Virtual Server 2005 R2, now offered as a free download.

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Virtual MS-BS
by Llib Setag April 4, 2006 1:13 PM PDT
Netscape was a pioneer in the world of Internet Browsing.
Netscape made ONE product an Internet Browser.

Microsith was the LAST major player in the "browser wars" when it put out IE, MS did not take the Internet seriously.

THEN, when Billy "BOB" realized that Netscape + Java could lead to a replacement for Office or as an alternative to writing new applications and the Internet could become the OS, then he stopped counting his money & went on the attack.

If you can't beat them, eat them alive...BG

IE was FREE, how could Netscape or any other Browser compete with that?

MS leveraged it's OS + Office cash cows monopoly onto all PC makers, by NOT licensing them Windows IF they preinstalled any other browsers. ONLY IE could be on the desktop if you want Windows OS Mr. PC Man.

Then they attempted to put a "toll booth" on the Information Highway by manipulating Java into a MS "flavored" version of Java. Plus the started with web development coding with Microsoft products that "eased web development" but were ONLY accessible if you were using MS-IE, NOT Netscape browser (but that was Netscape's inferior software, not MS monopoly).

Only until the DOJ stepped in did MS change their tune, but by then the damage had been done.

Microsith succeeded in their original goal of losing money by giving away IE, but putting Netscape out of business & diluting the "write once, run everywhere" aspects of Java.

TODAY, Microsoft si "LIVE" & the Internet is leading the way for a bright future of Live OS & Live apps for a new Vista of discovery & freedom...

Virtual MS-BS monopoly at its' finest.
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Virtual MS-BS
by Llib Setag April 4, 2006 1:13 PM PDT
Netscape was a pioneer in the world of Internet Browsing.
Netscape made ONE product an Internet Browser.

Microsith was the LAST major player in the "browser wars" when it put out IE, MS did not take the Internet seriously.

THEN, when Billy "BOB" realized that Netscape + Java could lead to a replacement for Office or as an alternative to writing new applications and the Internet could become the OS, then he stopped counting his money & went on the attack.

If you can't beat them, eat them alive...BG

IE was FREE, how could Netscape or any other Browser compete with that?

MS leveraged it's OS + Office cash cows monopoly onto all PC makers, by NOT licensing them Windows IF they preinstalled any other browsers. ONLY IE could be on the desktop if you want Windows OS Mr. PC Man.

Then they attempted to put a "toll booth" on the Information Highway by manipulating Java into a MS "flavored" version of Java. Plus the started with web development coding with Microsoft products that "eased web development" but were ONLY accessible if you were using MS-IE, NOT Netscape browser (but that was Netscape's inferior software, not MS monopoly).

Only until the DOJ stepped in did MS change their tune, but by then the damage had been done.

Microsith succeeded in their original goal of losing money by giving away IE, but putting Netscape out of business & diluting the "write once, run everywhere" aspects of Java.

TODAY, Microsoft si "LIVE" & the Internet is leading the way for a bright future of Live OS & Live apps for a new Vista of discovery & freedom...

Virtual MS-BS monopoly at its' finest.
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Virtual Vista?
by Llib Setag April 4, 2006 1:25 PM PDT
Isn't Microsoft already hosting the Virtualization of Vista OS on all of its' PC Servers?

D'oh Billy BOB!
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Virtual Vista?
by Llib Setag April 4, 2006 1:25 PM PDT
Isn't Microsoft already hosting the Virtualization of Vista OS on all of its' PC Servers?

D'oh Billy BOB!
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But will it run Mac OS X/Mac OS X Server?
by libertyforall1776 April 4, 2006 10:00 PM PDT
It is yet to be seen if it will run Mac OS X/Mac OS X Server...
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But will it run Mac OS X/Mac OS X Server?
by libertyforall1776 April 4, 2006 10:00 PM PDT
It is yet to be seen if it will run Mac OS X/Mac OS X Server...
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Mac OSX Server & XServe runs Linux OS
by Llib Setag April 5, 2006 9:28 AM PDT
Mac OSX Server OS + Apple's XServe rack servers / XRaid servers run Mac OSX Server OS / Linux OS / Unix OS's / Windows XP all in one unit TODAY & have so for years...

http://www.apple.com/server/macosx
http://www.apple.com/itpro

Open Standards. Apple Ease of Use.

Instead of developing proprietary technologies, Apple has embraced the best open source projects, such as Apache, Samba, OpenLDAP, Kerberos, Postfix, Jabber and SpamAssassin. Mac OS X Server integrates these robust technologies and enhances them with a unified, consistent management interface. Powerful administrative tools permit novices to configure and maintain core network services ? while providing the advanced features you require if you?re an experienced IT professional.

Redmond, you have a problem.

P.S.: http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

FREE Beta application that allows people to boot Windows XP at startup on an Apple Mac OSX Intel Core computer. Mac OSX AND Windows XP on one incredible Macintosh computer.

P.S.S: Call a doctor, Big Brother Balmer just stroked out!
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Why?
by jcastanza April 5, 2006 12:54 PM PDT
Who would want to do this? I think they have it backwards :)
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Why?
by jcastanza April 5, 2006 12:54 PM PDT
Who would want to do this? I think they have it backwards :)
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Apple user talking about "lock in" - ROFL!
by fafafooey May 2, 2008 5:59 PM PDT
Pretty funny - Mac users bash MS, yet it's perfectly fine with them that they have only one choice of hardware provider (Apple).
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When the hardware is that good.....
by Earl Benser April 3, 2006 6:15 AM PDT
.... why not enjoy real quality?????
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Only one choice of hardware provider?
by open-mind April 3, 2006 10:25 AM PDT
Apple users can buy RAM, drives, cards, printers, displays, etc from many different hardware providers. Not just Apple.

Only the CPU/box must come from Apple. As long as Apple remains price competitive (when comparing similar levels of software, features, and quality), I experience no downside to that.

Of course, I'm not a gamer, so I don't care about the ability to buy this month's hot video card. For those folks (who would need to buy a G5 tower), the Mac is more expensive, sine Apple doesn't sell low-end towers.
You're right
by robertcampbell2 April 3, 2006 12:26 PM PDT
And it will be interesting to see how many Mac or Windows users buy Dell's dual boot Mac/Windows machines. Sounds good to me!
Don't be fooled....
by qazwiz May 2, 2008 5:59 PM PDT
a wolf in sheep's clothing is still a wolf.

Go all Linux and you can get your support cheaper from others... including the (probably) most expensive Linux support company... Red Hat themselves

their conferences and support contracts are still cheaper than paying through unmentionable orifices to micro$oft
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This is completely backwards
by rcrusoe May 2, 2008 5:59 PM PDT
Virtual Windows servers on a Linux host makes perfect sense. Virtual Linux servers on a Windows server doesn't.

Who in their right mind would use the least stable operation system as the host?
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Maybe those who only run Windows servers?
by jpickett April 3, 2006 10:19 AM PDT
That would seem to then make sense I suppose?

Linux is fine/great/whatever, but if your Windows server installation isn't stable (sans security patching reboot aka scheduled downtimes) I'd look at the sysadmin or 3rd party software vendor. Most instabilities on our servers I've realized are the 3rd parties who write crappy applications.

Not to say MS doesn't have their problems, I certainly get frustrated with them quite often, but out of all the Windows servers I admin, I would consider each and every one "stable".
Microsoft Is Still Wearing Virtual Diapers!
by eye2fun May 2, 2008 5:59 PM PDT
What is not mentioned here is that Microsoft has granted support to XenSoft VM in order for them to run Windows as a Virtual Machine. This is because VMWare already has built-in support for Windows VM , Linux, Unix, OS-X, etc. If your still in diapers you best team up with the older kid to try to knock the Big Guy out of the driver's seat. XenSoft is in a better position to do some damage in this field than Microsoft. And as with everything coming out of Redmond, WA. these days, their newest Revision has been pushed back till next year. So since they can't get in the fight just yet, they're goating XenSoft into the ring to do some damage against VMWare.

VMWare owns this field, through years of having the most stable virtual machines in ComputerLand (including the server market). But in the past they have had no competion until more recently with the likes of XenSoft (Open Source) and Microsoft's 2005 Rev2 setups. XenSoft is what pushed VMWare to offer their base product for free. Microsoft has been forced to offer their product (which is behind in features and still wet behind the ears) for free as well.

What is Virtualization?
Well it is a program that allows many different installations of operating systems to run on one computer "At the Same Time"! For servers this is very important. It means you can isolate server tasks to a dedicated portion of the processor and memory use. Like having many servers using just one machine. For home use you can do your tax's on a Linux VM (virtual machine) install, switch back to Windows to play a game without rebooting or using another machine, plus running a media ripping Linux installation. For security it great as one Virtual Machine may crash, but it won't crash the computer or server.
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Mac OSX Server & XServe runs Linux OS
by Llib Setag May 2, 2008 5:59 PM PDT
Mac OSX Server OS + Apple's XServe rack servers / XRaid servers run Mac OSX Server OS / Linux OS / Unix OS's / Windows XP all in one unit TODAY & have so for years...

http://www.apple.com/server/macosx
http://www.apple.com/itpro

Open Standards. Apple Ease of Use.

Instead of developing proprietary technologies, Apple has embraced the best open source projects, such as Apache, Samba, OpenLDAP, Kerberos, Postfix, Jabber and SpamAssassin. Mac OS X Server integrates these robust technologies and enhances them with a unified, consistent management interface. Powerful administrative tools permit novices to configure and maintain core network services ? while providing the advanced features you require if you?re an experienced IT professional.

Redmond, you have a problem.

P.S.: http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

FREE Beta application that allows people to boot Windows XP at startup on an Apple Mac OSX Intel Core computer. Mac OSX AND Windows XP on one incredible Macintosh computer.

P.S.S: Call a doctor, Big Brother Balmer just stroked out!
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