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Sun's president argues that what's become important are Web services and the cell phones most will use to access them.

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Not again.
by Dachi September 23, 2005 4:40 PM PDT
I hope we don't have to go back through all the crap about thin clients again.

If I am not mistaken all of suns attempts to move everything to a thin client system have failed and people have lost interest.

A few things will move to a server based model but there will always be plenty of reasons (digital photos, personilization, file storage, gaming, development, software piracy etc.) that will keep the PC around for a long time.

This statement from Schwartz has a desperate feel to it.
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Really?
by kenfretz September 23, 2005 6:57 PM PDT
Obviously Schwartz isn?t an IT person. An IT person knows that for the vast majority of users the only way you will get their PC from them is to ply it from their ?cold dead fingers.?
Web services and flying cars: a magical future
by M C September 23, 2005 8:07 PM PDT
Yeah, it was going to be a big deal, Microsoft Office not on your PC but on the Web, all apps rented, not bought (all the better for the software companies).

Then reality hit, but apparently someone must have been in a coma.
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Ditto
by cjohn17 September 24, 2005 9:31 AM PDT
Perfectly stated. The subscription model for music is a dud, take
that Napster, why would anyone want to "rent" software online? Pay
as you go only goes so far.
Sun Barely Hanging On
by cjohn17 September 24, 2005 9:34 AM PDT
This from a company barely hanging on? Oh yeah, he's plugged
into the market place. He should have said Microsoft is so
yesterday. More people would have noticed.
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The High Cost Of Wireless Data Access
by Stating September 24, 2005 9:52 AM PDT
If Mr. Sunny wants to help the world (starting with me), then he needs to bring the cost of wireless data access down. Cell phone Internet access is outrageously expensive. And do I really want to have to keep track of how many bytes I accessed over the carrier's network, lest I experience sticker shock on my next bill? Oh, and how about the stupidity of having your cell phone device tied to your carrier? Let's see, I shell out $200 for a spiffy new cell phone, and then it becomes a worthless piece if junk if I switch carriers. Mr. Sunny can knock the PC all he wants. The reality is that with it, I have Internet acccess for $14.95 a month (all I can eat), T1 speed, a 19" monitor and full size keyboard, gigabytes of storage, and I can run whatever app I want. I am not locked in to just the web service apps the carrier decides to provide to me. And most importantly, I am not forced to junk my PC if I switch Internet providers.

Mr. Sunny, your future is the past. It is a few big oligarchs controlling what I can access, when I can access it, and how much I pay for it. If the oligarchs decide to hike prices by 15%, that is my tough luck. I am locked into their apps, so what choice do I have? You may like this paradigm, but I sure as hell don't, and I don't think the good people of sub-Saharan Africa will like it either. They won't like it anymore than they will like the terminator seeds that Monsanto wants to sell them to lock them in and take away their freedom.
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Your Macro Idiocy
by cjohn17 September 24, 2005 1:29 PM PDT
Another paranoid that thinks the "man" is keeping them down.
The "big oligarchs" are not the main issue. The Wireless industry
in general is bogged down with state and local rules, ancient
federal laws that were written by industry idiots, and greedy
municipalities bent on tacking tax after tax.

Strip all that from the provider and open up true market place
competion then you'll see prices come down.

Peace, comrade.
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This man smokes funny tobacco...
by Earl Benser September 26, 2005 4:32 AM PDT
... $14.95 for T1 speeds???? ROTFLMA

$14.95 and 56 kbps? typical...

$14.95 and DSL lite,? possibly but not likely....

But $14.95 and T1 is pure BS
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The Sunset
by sanenazok September 24, 2005 10:08 AM PDT
Internet on handhelds? That's great, except the internet is hard enough to understand on a "real" computer, not to mention on a 2.5" screen. Sun wants to provide internet to subsaharan areas? That's great, except if there was a business there, someone would be there already. Believe me, what sets those regions apart from wealthier nations is NOT their lack of access to stock quotes and writing brief meeting notes (which is what handheld units are good for). If Sun wants to supply those areas with an infrastructure then why hasn't it done so already? Go to it.
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Once upon a time ?
by 207796398873175208235380528963 September 24, 2005 1:06 PM PDT
Once upon a time there were many folks who tried to make all personal properties a relic. Still, the idea of having some personal property, including Personal Computer (personal library, personal toothbrush, etc.) is rather popular.
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Yeah right...
by Mendz September 24, 2005 8:11 PM PDT
... coming from someone who can't earn from PCs... looks like sour graping to me...
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PCs are here to stay
by Stan Johnson September 25, 2005 9:10 AM PDT
I am a graphic designer. I can imagine doing my work on anything but a PC. I am sure there are many other occupations that are the same way. The author is mistaken.
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What Service Will Edit my 100MB graphics file...
by fred dunn September 26, 2005 5:40 AM PDT
And why would I want to expose IP to the "web Services"?
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How about a 12GB video file?!?
by David Arbogast October 7, 2005 12:34 PM PDT
A network PC and web-based services for editing 12GB video files? HAHAHAHAHA!

Right.. the PC is sooo yesterday... my eye. C'mon, Sun. Get a new idea.
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