Comments on: IBM chides Microsoft over SOA

Big Blue claims Microsoft leans too hard on Windows-oriented, proprietary standards for its service-oriented architecture.

[Commander_Spock]

Who Says Elephants Cannot Dance!

"Service-oriented architecture, or SOA, links business applications to provide services. By creating an architecture where applications communicate with each other, using protocols including Extensible Markup Language (XML), the aim is to enhance business processes. SOA requires open standards to link applications. These can be produced by third-party vendors or in-house...." The way to go IBM -- You lead and let others like those from the "Redmond Campus" follow or drop out of the race completely!

[Troll Hard]

Did you know

that Microsoft SOA web services actually serve XML files?

http://www.service-architecture.com/

http://www.service-architecture.com/xml/articles/index.html

IBM says they use the XML language for their web servers. Now you say that "Redmond Campus" or Microsoft should follow using the XML language or drop out of the race?

Did you know that Microsoft Web Services use XML?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/07/04/ServiceStation/

Yes, indeed they have since Visual Studio 2002 when ASP.NET was developed.

Next time, do a little research before you attempt an "End Zone Dance" with elephants.

[ethana2]

SOA? How about the FUD?

That's what I'd chide 'em over.

SHOW US THE CODE!
Really, though, I don't give a crap what Microsoft does. Happy OSS user. Soon, I hope to help develop as well. Let the revolution roll.

Information demands freedom.

[Commander_Spock]

"SHOW US THE CODE!"!

Who cares so much about the Source-Codes when enhancements to "OS/2 WARP" (the best OS there was) are all that needs to be accomplished!

[Troll Hard]

Web services use XML files and the XML language

it isn't really that hard to read an XML file and interpret the XML language.

Any language that uses regular expressions can easily parse out XML files and streams.

All Microsoft did with OOXML was compress the XML file into a zip file, you just have your program unzip the zip file and read the XML file(s) in it.

The only thing innovative about OOXML was adding in the compression to save on the bandwidth. Zip is an open standard compression method, and XML is an open standard document format.

I don't really see what the big deal here is, IBM is just upset that they didn't think to compress the data first, and Microsoft came up with that idea first instead of IBM. IBM says the grapes must be sour, anyone remember that story?

[technewsjunkie]

What's new? How to become a Billionaire...

Sell cheap (sub cost) products to entice.
Lock 'em in with proprietary formats.

People bought into it. Now they can't extricate themselves.

[rcrusoe]

Is Microsoft's OOXML still proprietary?

Water's wet, the sky is blue, and, imo, MS is never going to do
anything that allows a level playing field.

Seems like the more MS tries to force their format, the more
resistance they face.

Maybe there is hope for real open standards.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-08/07/
content_5449032.htm

[giuliocesare]

Microsoft's mission accomplished -- or at least, almost

"...OOXML, having gained certification from standards organization Ecma International, is now an Ecma concern, and no longer a proprietary standard." So it is certified as a standard by an organization dedicated to computer standards: the European Computer Manufacturer's Association. For one thing, tension between Microsoft and Europe MIGHT decrease this way...