Comments on: Sun to coders: Open-source Java won't change your life

Having access to the source code of the Java platform won't affect how developers work, the company says.

[microsoft slayer]

don't worry, no one uses Java anymore

bleh...give me a break. a little too late in the game again? Meanwhile, php and ruby on rails are kicking their butts!

[rcrusoe]

Don't tell Xerox

and a ton of other big companies.

A lot of utilities for their big iron printers are Java.

[mattrmiller1]

Java does more than web

Sure PHP and Ruby passed Java a long time ago in the web market. But believe it or not, there is more to web out there. A lot of fortune 500 companies use Java for desktop applications, because it cross platform. There is more than the web out there, and for desktop applications Java is very good.

So your comment is a bit off.

[donpro]

PHP?

You have to be kidding!

Or a script kiddie who dows not know any better.

[dargon19888]

Too funny!

Seems you're not a real developer.

Java like C are close to "perfect" languages.

Having said that, only a software engineer will appreciate that statement. ;-)

Java isn't perfect, but its proven itself to be a classic.

[neilwd]

Mind the red herring

I was at this briefing, and blogged about it here.
There's no real impact on Java developers or users here: in fact Sun has a much more pragmatic reason for pursuing open-source generally. It's just that people would rather not talk about it...

[neilwd]

Oops - URL

Blog is at:
http://www.mwdadvisors.com/blog/2006/08/suns-open-sourcing-of-java-avoid-red.html

[Blito]

Not the open source business model for the code itself

Actually what they are tuley saying is that they will be working so heavily on it that they wont need to many fingers in the pot from the outside which is usually better quality code. BUT having it open source means better uptake from developers becase we can tweak little anoyances that MS can fix in .NET right away with their billions of dollars. So this is a huge incentive for devs to move away from .NET and delv into Java. If .NEt does something better an annoyed develoiper that can't stand .NEt just goes into Java and fixes it plus this is way better for the portability factor as .NEt is a strict enemy of potability and portability is a number one priority to developers.

[dargon19888]

Hmmm no.

Actually going opensource isn't a good thing unless Sun does vet the mods being made. I think its safe to say that Sun realizes that their developers aren't perfect and that there may be a better way to skin the proverbial cat.

Having said that, Sun is correct that taking Java to the "Open Source" world is reall a non-event.

The point Sun is making that many who use Java could care less about the source code.

To the author's point, that a developer can go in to the Java "source" and fix something, is a bad thing. Independent "fixes" means that you lose portability.

[dargon19888]

LOL too funny

Seems you're not a real developer.

Java like C are close to "perfect" languages.

Having said that, only a software engineer will appreciate that statement. ;-)

Java isn't perfect, but its proven itself to be a classic.

[dargon19888]

Ooops!

Was replying to the bone head comment of the first poster.