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Three projects join forces to create alternative to software-integration products from IBM and others.

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It's about time...
by Mendz August 31, 2005 5:55 PM PDT
... or maybe not. In the end, I still believe branding will take over.

There are many integration software products available. Most, if not all, of them are expensive (I wonder why Microsoft's Biztalk Server is not mentioned in the article...). Thus, the open source product lines.

I think the alliance offers potental if they can agree on a standard protocol and format to communicate and exchange data with each other rather than just sharing source codes. I think that a standard integration framework is essential. Something that users can immediately use out-of-the-box to integrate without much development or customization effort.

Microsoft Biztalk Server, for example, already has something like that called the Microsoft Biztalk Framework which is of course proprietary but the specification is freely available.

A similar framework for the alliance (which they can maybe propose as a standard) I think should enable true "unity" despite each products targetting different integration concerns.
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Me too
by September 1, 2005 6:35 AM PDT
Yeah - where was the mention of Biztalk.

But then, they seemed pretty hyper on the Bus, just when I hear peaople talk about getting OFF the bus. So, maybe this article has been on file for a while, awaiting a quiet moment ?

Not all integration models calls for pub/sub, and the features, found on the hub. I've recently been looking at new products offering interchangable MQ XML messages & SOAP XML messages. I foresee a time, when comapnies integrate to have part pub-sub, part point-to-point, with messages changing as they pass through.

I just don't think there's as much demand for Pub/Sub as was suggested in the industry a few years ago, and there may be MORE demand for point-to-point.

If these open source organisations have success, good luck to them. But when a financial services organisation has billions or trillions of dollars going through their systems every day, the cost of the established market leaders products becomes much less of an expense.
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Jitterbit Open Source Integration
by IlanSehayek February 15, 2006 1:09 PM PST
A New Open Source project launched in January on sourceforge.net and the project started getting coverage last week. It address the need for a tool and infrasturcture that can be downloaded and used without the need for coding. The project is starting to attract an active community.

To view a quick demo of the product, click on the following: http://demo.com/demonstrators/demo2006/63000.html

To download the product click on the following that will take you to sourceforge: http://jitterbit.com/Product/download.php

To view what the community is using it for visit the forums on http://jitterbit.com/Community/index.php

This is the first open source offering that has been package like a commercial product but with tools that are much easier to use.
It's about time...
by Mendz August 31, 2005 5:55 PM PDT
... or maybe not. In the end, I still believe branding will take over.

There are many integration software products available. Most, if not all, of them are expensive (I wonder why Microsoft's Biztalk Server is not mentioned in the article...). Thus, the open source product lines.

I think the alliance offers potental if they can agree on a standard protocol and format to communicate and exchange data with each other rather than just sharing source codes. I think that a standard integration framework is essential. Something that users can immediately use out-of-the-box to integrate without much development or customization effort.

Microsoft Biztalk Server, for example, already has something like that called the Microsoft Biztalk Framework which is of course proprietary but the specification is freely available.

A similar framework for the alliance (which they can maybe propose as a standard) I think should enable true "unity" despite each products targetting different integration concerns.
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Me too
by September 1, 2005 6:35 AM PDT
Yeah - where was the mention of Biztalk.

But then, they seemed pretty hyper on the Bus, just when I hear peaople talk about getting OFF the bus. So, maybe this article has been on file for a while, awaiting a quiet moment ?

Not all integration models calls for pub/sub, and the features, found on the hub. I've recently been looking at new products offering interchangable MQ XML messages & SOAP XML messages. I foresee a time, when comapnies integrate to have part pub-sub, part point-to-point, with messages changing as they pass through.

I just don't think there's as much demand for Pub/Sub as was suggested in the industry a few years ago, and there may be MORE demand for point-to-point.

If these open source organisations have success, good luck to them. But when a financial services organisation has billions or trillions of dollars going through their systems every day, the cost of the established market leaders products becomes much less of an expense.
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Jitterbit Open Source Integration
by IlanSehayek February 15, 2006 1:09 PM PST
A New Open Source project launched in January on sourceforge.net and the project started getting coverage last week. It address the need for a tool and infrasturcture that can be downloaded and used without the need for coding. The project is starting to attract an active community.

To view a quick demo of the product, click on the following: http://demo.com/demonstrators/demo2006/63000.html

To download the product click on the following that will take you to sourceforge: http://jitterbit.com/Product/download.php

To view what the community is using it for visit the forums on http://jitterbit.com/Community/index.php

This is the first open source offering that has been package like a commercial product but with tools that are much easier to use.
It's about time...
by Mendz August 31, 2005 5:55 PM PDT
... or maybe not. In the end, I still believe branding will take over.

There are many integration software products available. Most, if not all, of them are expensive (I wonder why Microsoft's Biztalk Server is not mentioned in the article...). Thus, the open source product lines.

I think the alliance offers potental if they can agree on a standard protocol and format to communicate and exchange data with each other rather than just sharing source codes. I think that a standard integration framework is essential. Something that users can immediately use out-of-the-box to integrate without much development or customization effort.

Microsoft Biztalk Server, for example, already has something like that called the Microsoft Biztalk Framework which is of course proprietary but the specification is freely available.

A similar framework for the alliance (which they can maybe propose as a standard) I think should enable true "unity" despite each products targetting different integration concerns.
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Me too
by September 1, 2005 6:35 AM PDT
Yeah - where was the mention of Biztalk.

But then, they seemed pretty hyper on the Bus, just when I hear peaople talk about getting OFF the bus. So, maybe this article has been on file for a while, awaiting a quiet moment ?

Not all integration models calls for pub/sub, and the features, found on the hub. I've recently been looking at new products offering interchangable MQ XML messages & SOAP XML messages. I foresee a time, when comapnies integrate to have part pub-sub, part point-to-point, with messages changing as they pass through.

I just don't think there's as much demand for Pub/Sub as was suggested in the industry a few years ago, and there may be MORE demand for point-to-point.

If these open source organisations have success, good luck to them. But when a financial services organisation has billions or trillions of dollars going through their systems every day, the cost of the established market leaders products becomes much less of an expense.
View reply
Jitterbit Open Source Integration
by IlanSehayek February 15, 2006 1:09 PM PST
A New Open Source project launched in January on sourceforge.net and the project started getting coverage last week. It address the need for a tool and infrasturcture that can be downloaded and used without the need for coding. The project is starting to attract an active community.

To view a quick demo of the product, click on the following: http://demo.com/demonstrators/demo2006/63000.html

To download the product click on the following that will take you to sourceforge: http://jitterbit.com/Product/download.php

To view what the community is using it for visit the forums on http://jitterbit.com/Community/index.php

This is the first open source offering that has been package like a commercial product but with tools that are much easier to use.
Thank for this article
by gsvdb January 17, 2007 1:48 PM PST
You hit it on the nose. We need to see more solid stand alone applications integrate rather than seeing a whole new project. The company that I work for released Shine Live Help to integrate with SugarCRM. Bringing together applications greatly increases the value of both applications for giving customer support. Open source applications that add to an already strong project can really gain momentum quickly.
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Thank for this article
by gsvdb January 17, 2007 1:48 PM PST
You hit it on the nose. We need to see more solid stand alone applications integrate rather than seeing a whole new project. The company that I work for released Shine Live Help to integrate with SugarCRM. Bringing together applications greatly increases the value of both applications for giving customer support. Open source applications that add to an already strong project can really gain momentum quickly.
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Thank for this article
by gsvdb January 17, 2007 1:48 PM PST
You hit it on the nose. We need to see more solid stand alone applications integrate rather than seeing a whole new project. The company that I work for released Shine Live Help to integrate with SugarCRM. Bringing together applications greatly increases the value of both applications for giving customer support. Open source applications that add to an already strong project can really gain momentum quickly.
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