Comments on: Apache hopes to encourage female coders

Open-source project creates new mailing list to help build a "welcoming environment" for women.

[William Squire]

This job pays how much?

While some companies pay employees to write code and create bug reports, the open-source community thrives on the work of volunteers. The Apache Software Foundation, responsible for the open-source Apache web server software and Debian, distributor of the Debian Linux distribution are both trying to encourage women to donate their time and expertise for the benefit of, well, Apache and Debian.

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[CNerd2025]

Apache and Debian hardly self-serving

You are forgetting that since both organizations are OSS/FSF, they want coders for themselves, but also for posterity. OSS/FSF is not about the money, it's about the rights. GNU GPL guarentees that. Sure, Apache SF and Debian want more coders, but with more coders for those projects, more of the code from those projects can be reused or added onto later.

[William Squire]

This job pays how much?

While some companies pay employees to write code and create bug reports, the open-source community thrives on the work of volunteers. The Apache Software Foundation, responsible for the open-source Apache web server software and Debian, distributor of the Debian Linux distribution are both trying to encourage women to donate their time and expertise for the benefit of, well, Apache and Debian.

http://www.inaniloquent.com/PermaLink.aspx?guid=5cb98042-a4e3-4f86-af49-486784ab5c22

[CNerd2025]

Apache and Debian hardly self-serving

You are forgetting that since both organizations are OSS/FSF, they want coders for themselves, but also for posterity. OSS/FSF is not about the money, it's about the rights. GNU GPL guarentees that. Sure, Apache SF and Debian want more coders, but with more coders for those projects, more of the code from those projects can be reused or added onto later.

[katamari]

What does this have to do with gender?

Why is gender even a focus-point in anything at all? Is the Apache "foundation" this bored? What's wrong, not enough bugs submit in their software?

I just don't get it, folks.

This whole notion of focusing on gender -- whether it be male or female -- completely goes against the goal of equality. We're going backwards discerning the difference when it comes to common goals and tasks. It's borderline sexism... which I thought women in the 30s took care of addressing via bra-burning feminism.

Also, I love how this issue is only a focus in American societies; doesn't work this way in Europe...

[katamari]

What does this have to do with gender?

Why is gender even a focus-point in anything at all? Is the Apache "foundation" this bored? What's wrong, not enough bugs submit in their software?

I just don't get it, folks.

This whole notion of focusing on gender -- whether it be male or female -- completely goes against the goal of equality. We're going backwards discerning the difference when it comes to common goals and tasks. It's borderline sexism... which I thought women in the 30s took care of addressing via bra-burning feminism.

Also, I love how this issue is only a focus in American societies; doesn't work this way in Europe...