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Comments on: Windows 7 demo at D6: Really? That's it?

Multitouch schmultitouch. Show me the bones. Plus: Check out the Microsoft video of Windows 7 and chime in with your thoughts.

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by bottomline May 28, 2008 9:52 AM PDT
Idiots. For those of us that make our livings using a Windows based computer, I can not think of a more useless path to take. Everything that was supposed to be Vista, except for the visual junk, had to be scrapped to be able to release the OS.
Touch is fine for my Iphone, I love it, but please, for a PC? Seriously, since when is the future of computing moving photos around? I am truly embarrassed for them if that video is what they are trying to entice us with. Apparently no one in that company uses a computer for work anymore, I guess they spend all day on Facebook.
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by bottomline May 28, 2008 9:52 AM PDT
Idiots. For those of us that make our livings using a Windows based computer, I can not think of a more useless path to take. Everything that was supposed to be Vista, except for the visual junk, had to be scrapped to be able to release the OS.
Touch is fine for my Iphone, I love it, but please, for a PC? Seriously, since when is the future of computing moving photos around? I am truly embarrassed for them if that video is what they are trying to entice us with. Apparently no one in that company uses a computer for work anymore, I guess they spend all day on Facebook.
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by May 28, 2008 11:23 AM PDT
Part of what MS is doing is a strategy of getting more than just the OS market. They are driving PC manufacturers and others into a more costly strategy so they must enhance their hardware regularly and not be able to gain profit margin easily. Meanwhile, MS releases specialty devices designed to get the "cost down" for specific functions (gaming console, personal music player, cell phone...) that actually allow them specifically to get higher margins on the sales of their items.

The then get the OS margin, and the margin on the hardware while driving any potential competitors on the hardware side into a deal or die situation where MS will be able to dictate their profits on hardware.

It isn't like these people are stupid. They own a market essentially and now want to grow it. Easiest way is for them to keep moving people in this direction.
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by coryschulz May 28, 2008 2:20 PM PDT
Apple will probably have a multi-touch tablet device out within the next year, possibly the next few months. MS won't even have this out until late 2009, probably 2010. And even then you'll have to wait for the hardware people (HP, Dell, Sony) to produce these types of devices and make them easy and enjoyable to use. Apple is so far ahead it's not even funny.
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by DrtyDogg May 31, 2008 12:25 PM PDT
Just FYI M$ already makes a tablet device. As for waiting for the hardware, if you read the reports, the demo was run on an already available laptop from Dell.
by kdunbar36 May 28, 2008 2:52 PM PDT
Some of what he's proposing sounds interesting, but I don't think its all that cool on a desktop or notebook. pc tablet maybe. What I wish we could have is a way to share all software without the need to purchase the software ourselves, if software was on a network, and we could use it just like you'd use a libary book - but then yes if you wanted to buy it you could install it permanent onto your computer system, but otherwise lets say I only use a program once, if it were on the internet I could go to a website, get the software for a period of time, like a libary book, use it create what I needed too, but then keep the document on my computer system, this way it gives people access to all the software they want to use..without the need to actually buy it if they can't afford to.

I'd also like to see things be less money and more borrowing, because its bad enough we have to buy a computer, but keeping it updated is very costly especially on a fixed income. I'd also like to see, libaries put all of their computers onto the network, so that we can check out a book if we'd like too, For the most part all anyone does on their computers is email people chat, and maybe right documents, having other software on a check out basis would save people a lot of GREEN!

But thinking about Windows 7, the more I think about it, it might be good as a bulletin board screen saver, idea, where we can tack up notes for ourselves that show full time on the screensaver just like a buletin board would. But also some of these networking programs like on Facebook are pretty cool, send your friend a flower and watch it grow, etc.. not like we have to pay for it.

And there's no reason why computer systems can't be upgradable, in the motherboard chip either.. if they were built that way. Why couldn't we have a computer system that we could upgrade the Pentium Chip or the Dual Core processor to a faster one, to make the motherboard better and faster, Computer Motherboards should be able to be used for years, and just by putting in a new Processor you'd have a faster system, but also all of the stuff should be made to be interchangeable too, somehow.. Wouldn't it be nice to buy a motherboard and use it for 10years rather than after 5 or 6 having to buy an entirely new computer system. Well anyway... thse are my ideas.
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by i_made_this May 28, 2008 3:07 PM PDT
This is Windows Seven?? All the touch-on-the-monitor nonsense will have to be killed because out here in **the real world** we can't afford to destroy the **improved hardware** Vista forced us to buy including our delicate and expensive hi-res monitors. Say Redmond - here's a cool idea for all the customers who bought Windows Six (Vista) and improved hardware needed to run it - make Windows Seven smarter and with a smaller footprint than Six and engineer Seven so that it's "recommended system requirements" are simple and easy to relate to = "Vista Premium Compatible" will work. But please, Redmond, whatever you do, do NOT FORCE US to buy even more newer and better hardware for Windows Seven - let us use all the expensive new crap from Nvidia, ATI, Intel, AMD, etc that Vista forced us to buy already.
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by clewis5 May 28, 2008 3:33 PM PDT
With all Apple has done with the touch interface, ipod,iphone,and trackpads on laptops, is this the best MS could copy.
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by clewis5 May 28, 2008 3:33 PM PDT
With all Apple has done with the touch interface, ipod,iphone,and trackpads on laptops, is this the best MS could copy.
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by cmason09 May 28, 2008 6:11 PM PDT
No way!? On Windows 7 you can move your finger across virtual water? How practical and useful! AND you can spin images? AND scrolling exactly like the kind on iPhones? How worth the upgrade to Windows 7 Enterprise Deluxe Business! Why does Microsoft play around with these trinkets while they could be applying the touch technology to useful endeavors? The only thing in that video remotely useful was the maps feature, which I admit was impressive. But their touch technology has too much potential for them to squander it with finger painting. Seriously, guys? Virtual water?

I'll stick with Mac OS X, thank you very much.
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by ResinNation May 28, 2008 7:40 PM PDT
Just as a point of clarification:
MultiTouch is a trademark owned by Apple - anything else, even if it is a touch screen that allows use of multiple fingers as input, is NOT MultiTouch unless it's made under Apple's patent. Also, one of you geniuses said that the iPhone does not allow for multiple fingers to work in the interface... ummmm, yeah, you should go use one before you make claims like that. iPhone is the innovator there, pal. Sorry to go and rain on your Apple bashing party, but... yeah.
Oh, and OS X - well, if you've taken a look at a MacBook Air or the newest in MacBooks and MacBook Pros, well, they've got the touch interface, too.
Microsoft beaten to the punch by Apple? Well, stranger things have happened...
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by DrtyDogg May 31, 2008 12:34 PM PDT
Just to clarify the iPhone is not the innovator of multi-touch. Multi-touch has been around for almost 15 years. The iPhone was the first to use it in a cellphone though. As for the trackpad in the MacBooks, that technology came from their purchase of a company called fingerworks. As for multi-touch being owned by Apple, I'm not sure I know they applied for it last year, but haven't seen if it was granted to them yet or not.
by PostNoComments May 29, 2008 8:39 AM PDT
Microsoft has been copying Apple for so long they don't even know why they're doing it now.
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by Greg Sparkman May 29, 2008 3:20 PM PDT
In order to use Multi-Touch you have to own an Apple product, as Apple owns the trademark, Multi-Touch?
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by Llib Setag May 30, 2008 8:19 AM PDT
Microsoft has "jumped the shark"

http://www.fool.com/investing/value/2008/05/29/microsoft-is-officially-out-of-ideas.aspx
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by dondeena May 30, 2008 2:25 PM PDT
Am I going to be expected to have my HANDS in the way when I play video games?!?!?
Or will a mouse still be standard equipment?

I didn't spend over a grand on video accelerators only to be forced by the operating system to keep my HANDS IN THE WAY!!!

Jeez!

Besides the problems I have with Vista have nothing to do with the interface. The FIRST thing I did when I got Vista, was to turn of ALL of their I/O intensive user interface junk.
I want the power of my Quad Core CPU and SLI'ed video cards for my games.
I don't want to waste my resources on the desktop!!!
And yet, even without the fancy new GUI. Vista regularly dissappoints and annoys me.

Come ON M.S.!!!
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by ralber May 31, 2008 4:46 PM PDT
I wanted to watch that Windows 7 demo but I had to spend most of the afternoon sorting .jpeg images using my fingers.
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by benjaminstraight July 24, 2008 3:24 PM PDT
I don't think this will go over well given the success of Vista.
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by tfkfan January 9, 2009 7:26 PM PST
That's all? man, i could make a program for linux(ubuntu) that would make it do that in a few months. but the video didnt show much at all
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