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Comments on: EPIC readying federal complaint over Facebook privacy policy

Privacy advocacy organization claims that the social networking service's new policy should be returned to its previous language.

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by Yellowbird77 February 17, 2009 6:23 PM PST
I know how to settle this problem.

STAY OFF FACEBOOK AND LET IT DIE.

Works for me. I simply NEVER EVER go there or to "My Space" for the same reasons.
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by Hep Cat February 17, 2009 6:25 PM PST
I'm sure the hysterical and intrusive policy is a signature Ted Ullyot move. After all - if you've worked for the Bush DOJ, approve of torture, and excel at finding weasel words that mask your motives, you'd get a job as Facebook corporate counsel too.
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by SeizeCTRL February 17, 2009 8:44 PM PST
Oh dear lord... you left wing fanatics with your so called "torture" crap. You guys are so braindead that you can't even make the distinction between torture and REAL TORTURE. If you compare the beheading of Daniel Pearl, or the hanging, then burning, followed by beheading on to kicking the heads down the street of defense contractors to SLEEP DEPRIVATION and WATER-BOARDING and think they are both the same thing, then you have problems.

After spending 2 tours in the middle east, my whole views and outlooks changed. I admit I grew up completely left wing, but when you see how it is in other cultures and countries, your eyes tend to open and your view of the world changes. I am not talking about watching it on Discovery or BBC, but actually seeing it and experiencing it first hand.

What you call torture, they call just a bad day. When the cutting off of limbs is common place for crimes, and you guys get run around like you have a sprained vagina over this whole water-boarding thing thinking it's the worst possible thing you could ever do to a human being, then I suggest you go spend a year or two in the middle east and see how quickly you change your mind.

I'm fairly certain that if you had to pick between having your hand chopped off for stealing or sleep deprivation... or having to read a false statement in front of a video camera before having your head chopped off or a few days on the good old Cheney water-board... I'd bet your choice of torture would be the much more humane US Military version that's had your panties in a wad for the last 4 years. Our torture is like a vacation... their torture leaves you missing arms, legs, maybe your head and your life.

And before you think I am some right wing moron who supports Bush, you're wrong. I'm middle of the road and I voted for Obama... I just have enough common sense to realize that water-boarding during a stint on a Carri bean Island doesn't seem anything like torture in comparison to the world where these people being held in GitMo came from.

But I digress... this is all about Facebook! I just get irked when people cry about the whole Bush/Cheney torture BS. Now if you will excuse me, I will step down from my little soap box.
by tundraboy February 18, 2009 8:26 AM PST
@SeizeCTRL

Really now, so you think "If they do it then I can do it" should supplant the lofty ideals upon which the United States claims to have been founded? Shall we then rename our country the United States of Seven Year Olds Throwing a Hissy Fit?
by Dalkorian February 18, 2009 9:46 AM PST
Thank you Tundraboy. No one in their right mind would compare beheadings, hangings and burnings to sleep deprivation or water boarding because the first set are executions! Execution != torture!

Besides, we're supposed to be better than that - otherwise what's the difference between us and them?
by Jack K1 February 17, 2009 6:42 PM PST
Lots of folks have written about this. Why not write about all the scam ads that have been flooding Facebook these past two weeks. No one else has. Now's your shot. Are you a follower - or a leader?
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by roxycottontail February 17, 2009 6:56 PM PST
facebook is really tourmenting all of its users with this move. Seriously they need to find a new agency to help represent them before they make any more vert decisions.
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by tundraboy February 17, 2009 7:29 PM PST
Since its beginnings, Facebook has always been an ethically challenged outfit. Even its very creation doesn't pass the smell test for me. Two brothers hire some guy to set up their social networking website, they part ways, then lo and behold that guy has his own social networking website? If there's nothing fishy there then why did Facebook settle for 65 mil? Then its one misstep after another. And it's the same mistake, a seeming lack of any grasp of basic ethics. After a while, the 'young company' excuse wears thin. It's looking more and more like whoever is running things at Facebook has some sort of personality disorder that prevents him or her from distinguishing right from wrong. Thus I've been advising people I know not to sign up with Facebook. Looks like I've been proved right.
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by Revelation-23 February 17, 2009 9:00 PM PST
This could be treading some treacherous ground, but at the same time, I sort of understand it; maybe because I've seen similar things on other sites. The way it's worded, Facebook isn't claiming copyright or ownership, only the right to use what's posted or uploaded and as Mark Zuckerberg stated, this is a way to ensure that Facebook keeps operating. While the TOS says it can more or less use content however it feels fit, it's unlikely that they're going to take what you've written or uploaded and milk profit from it, use it for promotional purposes or what have you just because they can.

Still, I'd be wary of what goes on Facebook or any other site/service that takes a similiar stand. Or any other site, for that matter. There are other concerns involved, what with privacy matters related to what's supposed to be private and who can use what and when they can use it. If you don't want people to see it, read it, hear it - don't post it.
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by orestes_hobo February 18, 2009 4:34 PM PST
Facebook is a company, if you don't like their terms of use, don't use them, it's as simple as that. Do you go to stores and complain about how they do business and complain about prices? No, you shop somewhere else. Same deal here. Bunch of whiners.
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by Why_not November 12, 2009 4:11 AM PST
I know this is a relatively old thread--but it appears Facebook is violating privacy/security in a major way.

I refuse to have anything to do with Facebook. Someone invited me to join their site (which I didn't) but I was still barraged with e-mails--including the first batch of virus laden emails I've ever received. They were from the Facebook domain so they obviously do not secure their addresses. (And I've never signed up for an account!!) I had to block their domain to stop all the spam.
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by LordAnthonyBain December 18, 2009 8:44 AM PST
http://www.facebook.com/bravesocks?ref=profile#/group.php?gid=223613734216&ref=mf

ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS !!!!
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