Comments on: Microsoft: IE 8 won't be done until 2009

Company will do one more test version early next year before releasing the final version. Microsoft had earlier said to expect the browser to be finalized this year.

[The_happy_switcher]

Will anyone really notice its absence?

[The User]

Not a huge disappointment for the user community, considering that FF3 is available.

[xcopy]

Does anyone care? I only use it when forced., but does anyone willingly use IE anymore (sans the clueless of course)?

I think we'd all be better off if IE - and its poor standards support - just went the way of the dodo.... ....

[brianbot5000]

Well unfortuantely about 65-70% of the web users are still "the clueless".

[goodspeed8701]

Well i use it along with the 70% of the other people who surf the web. I am happy with it. It works for me along with opera. I USE IT AND IT WORKS GREAT.

[aMUSICsite]

Weill I'm one of the 70% that has to use it at work and would choose not to.

[the_iceman]

take your time, Im very happy w/ firefox

[Mike0000]

ok so today microsoft said ie 8 well come out in 2009 after the rcs version well what happends to the ppl that have beta 2 installed on there pcs will we get a update from windows update.....

aww i dont really care anyways when it comes out i just use ie8 to get my windows updates.

[linkux]

IE8 will be available for Linux and OS X next year, too.

[o2bpitching]

And why would I want to put IE on my Mac?...

[MafiaPenguin]

I'm clueless as to why anyone would convert their nice open source OS (Linux) or nice stable OS (OS X) into another M$ hell.

[compudoc318]

cause its better than safari

[someguy999]

how many versions does it take for someone to write a fast Javascript engine? Nevermind, I already know the answer Chromes speed trials are evident that its NOT LONG! I should have asked, how long does it take Microsoft Developers to write a fast Javascript engine.

I like MS, but just super irritated ate how slow they work and how they could be on version 8 while not even a formally released new browser is kicking its a--! And firefox some random non-profit limited funds company can make such a superior product.

[wolivere]

I perosnally hate Java although its out there. I uninstalled chrome due to lockups slow performace on some sites, heavy CPU usage, and mainly on many forums I read post on, it just screws up the formating.

Even Sites like CNN, I would often get the unhappy computer. The site is not repsonding. Yet on the FF3 or IE8 browser on the same box no issues.

[rapier1]

Do you really think that V8 was cooked up inside of a month?

[MafiaPenguin]

Apparently, more than 8.

[Mr. Dee]

This could be further indication of Windows 7's release date. I remember during Windows Vista's development, IE 7 for Vista and IE 7 for prior versions of Windows were being developed in tandem. I suspect that Microsoft might want to repeat a similar experience at least for the first beta of Windows 7. The IE Team might want to see how the OS and the browser impact each others development if it introduces any regressions that the IE Team can have fixed before it goes final. Also, I remember IE 7 being released a few months ahead of Windows Vista, IE 8 in March 2009, Windows 7 RTM June 2009, GA August 2009?

[Penguinisto]

Meh - so it comes out when Windows 7 does. No biggie... Firefox works just fine.

[Grumpypaul]

Another Microsoft product that needs years to perfect.

I'll keep my Mac and my Firefox, thank you very much.

[alejoche]

Puahh... The worst web browser ever... who cares??????????

**** IE!.

[ppgreat]

Safari's Webkit is very fun to play with. And you pretty much get daily downloads.

Fast, stable. Love FF3 as well.

IE. If I wasn't forced to use it for Windows Update, I would uninstall it in a heartbeat.

[drno7]

You don't have to use IE for the Windows Updates. Just install the IETab extension onto FireFox and your set.

[jessiethe3rd]

Hmm... and Windows 7 is out when? *light-bulb*

[killerb255]

Until Firefox 3 has better support for Group Policies on an Active Directory domain, many businesses will still use IE.

[frautenbach]

My company develop web based software for a few large enterprises. Most of our clients have banned the use of Firefox on their networks due to its weak security model. Companies will rather tolerate incomplete standards complience than bad security. I like Firefox and use it for all my surfing at home, but I agree that Firefox does not really match IE's zoning and sandbox features. Firefox fanatics will probably disagree, so check my blog for more info: http://www.alfega.com

[Pointedly]

The world would be better off if there were only one browser and if that one browser adhered totally to W3C standards. Internet Explorer has been the biggest offender when it comes to standards adherence. It would be best for Internet Explorer to be used only on intranets and only when software requiring Internet Explorer's non-standard features is being run. Under all other circumstances, Firefox is the browser to use. It is the browser that most closely adheres to W3C standards.

It is costing the world billions of dollars annually to have people using browsers that don't adhere to standards. Such a drain on world economics is something we don't need. Fortunately, there is Firefox, so there is something that each of us can do to improve the situation: Use Firefox.

[monkeyfun14]

Id love to see your source

[Penguinisto]

Well, all you need to do is check the ACID scores - IE is widely reported to be the worst-scorer:

http://www.webstandards.org/action/acid3

[Penguinisto]

PS: IE7 gets 12/100 on Acid3, in case you're curious. FF3 scores 71/100, and IIRC Safari scores a bit higher (not near my Mac to check it).

[monkeyfun14]

@penguin his claim of it costing billions.

[Thunderbird8]

I'll be waiting for the full version. Thank you.

[goodspeed8701]

The world knows IE and use it. Few rebels will always try to fight the majority. I LOVE IE. it just work for me and the majority of the browser market share. FF < ME and IE=ME so i use it Safari = 0.

[MafiaPenguin]

Safari is slow on PC's, but FF3 bad?

Are you crazy?

Also, calling FF less than IE just got 8 is mean.

[Penguinisto]

tell us what your precious IE does with this:

http://acid3.acidtests.org/

;)

[loose_screw]

I love me some Chrome!

[isykal]

I hate Firefox! Currently using Chrome and can't wait to try out IE8.

[jscott418]

You have to wonder if Microsoft is becoming like GM,Ford and Chrysler. These old big giants seem to react so slowly to change. Even the products they build stay behind the rest because R&D takes so long.
If I was running Microsoft I would probably ditch IE if I could not get a team together that could continue to update it on a frequent schedule. Maybe Microsoft should consider downsizing and put more resources into what it decides as its core products.

[amdkilla]

OK, I will admit that anything 'web' that MS made before IE7 was crap. IE7 was a massive improvement over IE6. Sure, the ordinary user got irate about not knowing how to use tabs (trust me, I know several), but at least there was the option of turning it off. So if there is any point in refining something, I cannot blame Microsoft for waiting for the release of Windows 7. Windows Vista was more about graphical 'wow', but Windows 7 is more geared towards functionality, but still holding the graphical elements.

I personally havent tested chrome yet, but I use IE7, FF3 and Opera on a daily basis. I have used Safari before on both a Mac and a PC, and the Mac version is as fast as anything, and yet the PC version lags like my old machine under Crysis. The same with iTunes. Apple cannot write software for PC's to save their lives. It's not like Microsoft is slowing down the programs, so Apple had better get their a** in gear. No-one in their right mind is going to buy a mac for iTunes and Safari.

What most of you are forgetting is that there are thousands of people out there who barely know how to use a computer, and can only dream of becoming a 'power user' (like most of us). If Microsoft made a version of Windows for 'power users', everyone of them would complain that there is yet another version of Windows "Just another way of making more money", just like they did with Vista.

Now... back on track. I love IE7's sandbox mode on Vista. It has saved many of my clients from attacks.

I have come across several websites (mainly www.datingdirect.com, I dont use it :D) that say to achieve all of their features, you have to disable 'protected Mode'. No chance. They should get off their lazy, money filled pockets and write some compatible code. I bet they are using the same coding as they did for IE5.5!