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Sixteen new chips based on new transistor design have Intel's server group in excellent shape heading into next year.

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We need AMD.
by SpiritWater November 11, 2007 3:28 PM PST
I like Intel and all but AMD needs to stay competitive and start matching Intel's technologies. AMD doesn't have the huge marketshare lead and loads of cash Intel had when AMD was eating their lunch. Without AMD we'd still be running on P4 technology and focusing on clock ratings.

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Thank you, AMD...
by ethana2 November 11, 2007 4:44 PM PST
Now if only we had this kind of competition in the internet service industry. Life would be different.

I'm tired of not getting what I pay for.
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Wow!
by guest86 November 11, 2007 8:52 PM PST
I want to see new Quad Core on Laptop/Notebook please! I can't wait to see new technology for both Desktop and Laptop. It going very cheaper and save money. That very good to have fastest processor in the world. World's killer processor is design for Gaming and highest application for XP and Vista or later. I want buy powerful processor with ultra low voltage never get hotter! Also save battery life more 50% or more longer! I love fastest processor speed are 3GHz or higher are right for me to choose. I want buy that Quad Core please!!! :-)
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CPU articles
by Dachi November 11, 2007 10:01 PM PST
Without constantly keeping up on the CPU market you almost need a diagram to read articles about new CPU technology. This might help a bit: http://www.3dnews.ru/_imgdata/img/2007/01/29/39414.gif

Penryn is basically the 45 nanometer die shrink for the Core 2 architecture. It will come with 50% more cache, double the transistor count, and is about 25% smaller than Conroe (65nm Core 2).

Wolfdale and Yorkfield are dual and quad core Penryn's.

Anandtech's benchmarks (at same clock speed) had Penryn 4-5% faster than Conroe/Kentsfiel in non SSE4 optimized benchmark and 10% better in power consumption. Nothing ground breaking, but there were a few very specific cases where Penryn bested Conroe by ~45% in SSE4 optimized media encoding.

AMD has states Phenom will be competitive with Conroe, but Penryn will be out before Phenom. There are no samples/benchmarks of Phenom released yet that I know of.

The $10,000 question is obviously if Phenom is competitive enough to be faster than Penryn when it is released.

My best guess is no, but I did say guess.
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Phenom Benchmarks
by bschmidt25 November 12, 2007 9:48 AM PST
The only Phenom benchmarks I've seen so far are here:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3092

Take it for what it is - a preview, not the final product.
RE: Intel ready for 2008 with Penryn
by SpitfireAu November 12, 2007 3:26 AM PST
"It going very cheaper and save money."

Great grasp of the English language mate...

Meanwhile, looks like exciting times ahead in the development of faster and more efficient processors. No doubt these new server technologies will trickle down soon enough to the desktop and laptop market. On the other hand, for most users doing internet surfing and word processing, it seems to be more along the lines of change for the sake of change?

Mike
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AMD Cannot Compete Unless...
by eightwings November 12, 2007 9:43 AM PST
AMD is fighting a losing battle. Intel defined the current market and AMD cannot beat them at their own game. They are condemned to always play second fiddle unless they can find a way to redefine the market. They can only do so by reassessing the current state of the art in multicore CPU architecture and computer programming and correct what is wrong with it. And there is a lot that is wrong with it. I call it "The Age of Crappy Concurrency". Check it out: http://rebelscience.blogspot.com/2007/09/age-of-crappy-concurrency-erlang-tilera.html

Now that the industry is transitioning to massive parallelism, AMD has the chance of a lifetime to change the computing landscape in its favor and leave Intel and everybody else in the dust.
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