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i disagree.. the hell w/hd dvd..
by seamonkey420 August 16, 2007 9:34 AM PDT
ok, so my opinion is biased towards Bluray since i'm a bluray convert... i honestly don't think this will save HD DVDs slump/falling behind bluray in sales.

i have yet to have any pals that have an xbox360 or hdtv that has a standalone hd dvd player. currently all of my pals that did the HDTV upgrade all either have an upconverting dvd player or a PS3.

i wish universal would jump the fence and give us both hd dvd and bluray of heroes.. if not, it won't convince me to get an hd dvd player just for those tv series; i'd get the dvds and let my ps3 upconvert (which it does do a pretty good job at).

just my $.02
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i disagree.. the hell w/hd dvd..
by seamonkey420 August 16, 2007 9:34 AM PDT
ok, so my opinion is biased towards Bluray since i'm a bluray convert... i honestly don't think this will save HD DVDs slump/falling behind bluray in sales.

i have yet to have any pals that have an xbox360 or hdtv that has a standalone hd dvd player. currently all of my pals that did the HDTV upgrade all either have an upconverting dvd player or a PS3.

i wish universal would jump the fence and give us both hd dvd and bluray of heroes.. if not, it won't convince me to get an hd dvd player just for those tv series; i'd get the dvds and let my ps3 upconvert (which it does do a pretty good job at).

just my $.02
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i disagree.. the hell w/hd dvd..
by seamonkey420 August 16, 2007 9:34 AM PDT
ok, so my opinion is biased towards Bluray since i'm a bluray convert... i honestly don't think this will save HD DVDs slump/falling behind bluray in sales.

i have yet to have any pals that have an xbox360 or hdtv that has a standalone hd dvd player. currently all of my pals that did the HDTV upgrade all either have an upconverting dvd player or a PS3.

i wish universal would jump the fence and give us both hd dvd and bluray of heroes.. if not, it won't convince me to get an hd dvd player just for those tv series; i'd get the dvds and let my ps3 upconvert (which it does do a pretty good job at).

just my $.02
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Sad if the HD Videophile format is set by a game
by santakrooz August 16, 2007 11:17 AM PDT
Blu-Ray offers zero visual or audio benefits over HDDVD - and infact is less stringent on higher end requirements such as Dolby TrueHD and Dolby Digtal Plus. Same content, same resolution. The added capacity of Blu-ray doesn't offer anything more than add'l content (8.5hrs vs 5.1hrs) or more episodes per disc for Series packages.

A home theater enthusiast invests thousands of dollars into the video and audio experience - that a game machine that is nothing more than a glorified PC should dictate our standard is sickening. I'd feel much better about Blu-ray if it were left out of the PS3, and left up to Home Theater consumers, who in the end are who will be buying the content to play on the machines. Not just the 2 or 3 "sampler" HD titles that the typical PS3 gamer will buy.

Sad state of things. I hope HDDVD wins this format war simply from a standpoint of principal - certainly won't be on technology since the two from a home theater perspective are a dead tie.
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Sad if the HD Videophile format is set by a game
by santakrooz August 16, 2007 11:17 AM PDT
Blu-Ray offers zero visual or audio benefits over HDDVD - and infact is less stringent on higher end requirements such as Dolby TrueHD and Dolby Digtal Plus. Same content, same resolution. The added capacity of Blu-ray doesn't offer anything more than add'l content (8.5hrs vs 5.1hrs) or more episodes per disc for Series packages.

A home theater enthusiast invests thousands of dollars into the video and audio experience - that a game machine that is nothing more than a glorified PC should dictate our standard is sickening. I'd feel much better about Blu-ray if it were left out of the PS3, and left up to Home Theater consumers, who in the end are who will be buying the content to play on the machines. Not just the 2 or 3 "sampler" HD titles that the typical PS3 gamer will buy.

Sad state of things. I hope HDDVD wins this format war simply from a standpoint of principal - certainly won't be on technology since the two from a home theater perspective are a dead tie.
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Sad if the HD Videophile format is set by a game
by santakrooz August 16, 2007 11:17 AM PDT
Blu-Ray offers zero visual or audio benefits over HDDVD - and infact is less stringent on higher end requirements such as Dolby TrueHD and Dolby Digtal Plus. Same content, same resolution. The added capacity of Blu-ray doesn't offer anything more than add'l content (8.5hrs vs 5.1hrs) or more episodes per disc for Series packages.

A home theater enthusiast invests thousands of dollars into the video and audio experience - that a game machine that is nothing more than a glorified PC should dictate our standard is sickening. I'd feel much better about Blu-ray if it were left out of the PS3, and left up to Home Theater consumers, who in the end are who will be buying the content to play on the machines. Not just the 2 or 3 "sampler" HD titles that the typical PS3 gamer will buy.

Sad state of things. I hope HDDVD wins this format war simply from a standpoint of principal - certainly won't be on technology since the two from a home theater perspective are a dead tie.
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The game machine dictates?!?
by RRosal August 17, 2007 5:24 AM PDT
Excuse me, but its the movie titles that dictate who's going to win this war and not the fact that a game machine just happens to also use a Blu-Ray drive. This is already making a difference for game companies who wish to put next-gen games onto a storage medium that will accomodate the size requirements they are looking for (I'll take the 1 Blu-Ray disc over 5 DVD disc game anyday, thanks). I'm a huge BSG fan, and yes I'm disappointed that I won't be getting Galactica on Blu-Ray thanks to Universal's stubborn stance on sticking to their format whereas companies like Paramount and Warner Brothers are more than happy to oblige both formats. This format war is long overdrawn and quite frankly needs to be ended soon or we as consumers lose out. If HD-DVD loses out, it'll be solely because the customers decide with their dollars and not because the Playstation 3 (and yes, I have one) is the supposed flag bearer for the format.
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The game machine dictates?!?
by RRosal August 17, 2007 5:24 AM PDT
Excuse me, but its the movie titles that dictate who's going to win this war and not the fact that a game machine just happens to also use a Blu-Ray drive. This is already making a difference for game companies who wish to put next-gen games onto a storage medium that will accomodate the size requirements they are looking for (I'll take the 1 Blu-Ray disc over 5 DVD disc game anyday, thanks). I'm a huge BSG fan, and yes I'm disappointed that I won't be getting Galactica on Blu-Ray thanks to Universal's stubborn stance on sticking to their format whereas companies like Paramount and Warner Brothers are more than happy to oblige both formats. This format war is long overdrawn and quite frankly needs to be ended soon or we as consumers lose out. If HD-DVD loses out, it'll be solely because the customers decide with their dollars and not because the Playstation 3 (and yes, I have one) is the supposed flag bearer for the format.
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The game machine dictates?!?
by RRosal August 17, 2007 5:24 AM PDT
Excuse me, but its the movie titles that dictate who's going to win this war and not the fact that a game machine just happens to also use a Blu-Ray drive. This is already making a difference for game companies who wish to put next-gen games onto a storage medium that will accomodate the size requirements they are looking for (I'll take the 1 Blu-Ray disc over 5 DVD disc game anyday, thanks). I'm a huge BSG fan, and yes I'm disappointed that I won't be getting Galactica on Blu-Ray thanks to Universal's stubborn stance on sticking to their format whereas companies like Paramount and Warner Brothers are more than happy to oblige both formats. This format war is long overdrawn and quite frankly needs to be ended soon or we as consumers lose out. If HD-DVD loses out, it'll be solely because the customers decide with their dollars and not because the Playstation 3 (and yes, I have one) is the supposed flag bearer for the format.
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Format war over when Universal makes Blu-Ray
by apollo1980 August 17, 2007 6:47 AM PDT
Universal is the only major studio that hasn't adopted Blu-Ray yet.

Once they do, the format war is over in favor of Blu-Ray, since the saturation of Blu-Ray is far outpacing HD-DVD.
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Format war over when Universal makes Blu-Ray
by apollo1980 August 17, 2007 6:47 AM PDT
Universal is the only major studio that hasn't adopted Blu-Ray yet.

Once they do, the format war is over in favor of Blu-Ray, since the saturation of Blu-Ray is far outpacing HD-DVD.
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Format war over when Universal makes Blu-Ray
by apollo1980 August 17, 2007 6:47 AM PDT
Universal is the only major studio that hasn't adopted Blu-Ray yet.

Once they do, the format war is over in favor of Blu-Ray, since the saturation of Blu-Ray is far outpacing HD-DVD.
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It's over for HD-DVD
by brandonh33 August 17, 2007 8:51 AM PDT
Blu-ray wins ok? End of story. I am sick of people trying to talk up HD-DVD. With over 50% now of the market for Blu-ray and over 70% make Blu-ray compared to HD-DVD's 15% of market strictly only HD-DVD, Its just over! HD-DVD isnt going to survive 5 years from now even if they keep 15% of the market! And stop complaning that HD-DVD has better sound or picture, it doesnt! May I mention that Blu-ray has around a 200gb capacity in the future, while HD-DVD can only go up to around 60gb.
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It's over for HD-DVD
by brandonh33 August 17, 2007 8:51 AM PDT
Blu-ray wins ok? End of story. I am sick of people trying to talk up HD-DVD. With over 50% now of the market for Blu-ray and over 70% make Blu-ray compared to HD-DVD's 15% of market strictly only HD-DVD, Its just over! HD-DVD isnt going to survive 5 years from now even if they keep 15% of the market! And stop complaning that HD-DVD has better sound or picture, it doesnt! May I mention that Blu-ray has around a 200gb capacity in the future, while HD-DVD can only go up to around 60gb.
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It's over for HD-DVD
by brandonh33 August 17, 2007 8:51 AM PDT
Blu-ray wins ok? End of story. I am sick of people trying to talk up HD-DVD. With over 50% now of the market for Blu-ray and over 70% make Blu-ray compared to HD-DVD's 15% of market strictly only HD-DVD, Its just over! HD-DVD isnt going to survive 5 years from now even if they keep 15% of the market! And stop complaning that HD-DVD has better sound or picture, it doesnt! May I mention that Blu-ray has around a 200gb capacity in the future, while HD-DVD can only go up to around 60gb.
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The winner? try Standard def DVD
by webdev511 August 17, 2007 9:55 AM PDT
In the interest of disclosure, I have an HD DVD player.

The current number of discs sold for each format means almost nothing. The number of players does. The BR camp will trumpet total number of capable players while the HDDVD camp will do the same for stand-alone players. What I'd be interested in seeing is the number of up converting SD players or number of progressive scan SD players connected to up converting receivers or displays.

HD is still very young and the vast majority of the ones that are out there are 720p so in all likely hood, that group is far more likely to spend $100 on an up converting player than $250 for an HDDVD player or $500 for a BR/PS3. Remember these are not gadget geeks so I wouldn't bet on them "seeing" the value add of a PS3. Right or wrong it's still viewed as a gaming device. If they've already decided they don't want a gaming device then they won't be able to justify the the added cost and may even be put off by the similar pricing of a PS3 and stand alone player. Do they give in to Sony's lure of features or do they make themselves look dumb by paying the same money for a stand alone player?

Most of the non techies I've talked to are just disgusted by all the expense of going HD. TV, Dvd player, furniture, new discs, new cables, new remotes, new dvr, new cable service...you know the drill.
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The winner? try Standard def DVD
by webdev511 August 17, 2007 9:55 AM PDT
In the interest of disclosure, I have an HD DVD player.

The current number of discs sold for each format means almost nothing. The number of players does. The BR camp will trumpet total number of capable players while the HDDVD camp will do the same for stand-alone players. What I'd be interested in seeing is the number of up converting SD players or number of progressive scan SD players connected to up converting receivers or displays.

HD is still very young and the vast majority of the ones that are out there are 720p so in all likely hood, that group is far more likely to spend $100 on an up converting player than $250 for an HDDVD player or $500 for a BR/PS3. Remember these are not gadget geeks so I wouldn't bet on them "seeing" the value add of a PS3. Right or wrong it's still viewed as a gaming device. If they've already decided they don't want a gaming device then they won't be able to justify the the added cost and may even be put off by the similar pricing of a PS3 and stand alone player. Do they give in to Sony's lure of features or do they make themselves look dumb by paying the same money for a stand alone player?

Most of the non techies I've talked to are just disgusted by all the expense of going HD. TV, Dvd player, furniture, new discs, new cables, new remotes, new dvr, new cable service...you know the drill.
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Think back.
by brandonh33 August 17, 2007 10:48 AM PDT
Remember when DVD's first came out? the prices of those players are almost identical to HD-DVD players or Blu-ray players, so get over it.
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Think back.
by brandonh33 August 17, 2007 10:48 AM PDT
Remember when DVD's first came out? the prices of those players are almost identical to HD-DVD players or Blu-ray players, so get over it.
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Microsoft could kill PS3
by pcb777b August 17, 2007 11:58 AM PDT
I believe that if the xbox360 came out with blueray standard on high end
machines that it would kill the PS3. I wonder if the increase in xbox360 sales
would make up for the lost revenue of their tie in with the other format.
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