Comments on: Apple: You can gab on that iPhone for eight hours

New specs released from Apple say that the much-anticipated handset's battery life is significantly better than expected.

[Penguinisto]

One word:

pwnage.

With WiFi, I don't have to pay out the arse for some provider's ungodly expensive "data plan" just to get connected (AT&T damned well better not charge to unlock that WiFi lovin', either).

The rest is... well, right there in the chart.

Man, I can't fscking wait.

/P

[Vegaman_Dan]

Free wifi to the rescue

You'll need that wifi to do any useful data surfing definitely. With Edge, the data transfer is equivalent to slow AOL dialups. Free public unsecured wifi connections will be your savior there. Not anything I'd trust to do secure browsing on, but that's true of any free wifi spot.

[Christopher Hall]

About that data plan...

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but:
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7683

Pay me now or pay me later, but either way, iPay.

[MRMOAV]

N95 has wifi

Ok, the N95 does have wifi and the blackjack using it's smaller
battery with 3 hours of talk time is actually a bit thinner then the
iphone... though it does have the camera hump though. One, thing
I did notice having had a chance to use the iphone last week is that
it is HEAVY!!! i mean even more so then my beloved 8700c which I
can hold upto my ear for more then a few minutes.

[Lindy01]

Ahhh

our daily cnet Iphony story.

"The rest is... well, right there in the chart" minus a few rows like......

price
3g
Native Exchange compatibility
Hundres of applications that can run on it

the pwnage......goes to "they dont say"?

So $150 Blackjack....or a $499-$599 for a Iphone?

Have fun looking for the those hot spots.

[Xtoo]

Yeap!

This "upgrades" were expected. Sounds great!

[Pixelslave]

Learn from the past

If history repeats itself, people need not be too happy too soon. Remember how Apple marketed its PPC chip Mac? It kept saying the PPC chips are "X" times faster than comparable x86 CPU. But when Apple released its own x86 machine, suddenly, the x86 CPU is "X" times faster than the PPC chip they used. The number never gets too match up.

[muskratboy]

different chips, genius

yes, the x86 chip they switched to IS faster than the ppc chip. just as the ppc chip was faster than the OLD x86 chipsets.

you do understand that these are all different chips, right?

and that the REASON apple switched was because the NEW x86 was faster/more efficient. i don't understand what the problem is here.

[open-mind]

PPC Was Faster ... For A While

PPC was faster ... for a while. And that's the time period where Apple was making those claims. Then a few years went by where IBM didn't keep up with AMD/Intel. Only after that did Apple make the reverse claims about Intel.

Also, you can't fully quantify the performance of a CPU (much less a computer) with just one number. There are way too many things to measure. However, battery capacity can be pretty well quantified with just one number.

[ethana2]

Here's why.

They never match up because things are constantly improving. Be grateful for that. If you want something that doesn't vary as much, benchmark some computation at home project on linux vs windows kernel or measure uptime on online servers.

[Vegaman_Dan]

I would expect no less

Since my current phone exceeds these ratings, I would expect decent battery ratings for the new iPhone. I'm glad that they say it will last eight hours. They'll need that sort of lifespan to be competitive with other OEM's that exceed it now.

[john55440]

How long before the first battery recall? -grin NT

No Text

[Robbo75]

Your Phone! Your iPod! Your PDA!

All lost at the same time!!! Gee, imagine the fun it'll be the day you pull up your pants too quick and see your phone, iPod, and PDA all lost when it drops in the toilet and dies.

What they need to do is hook it up to an online storage device so we can get new iPhones and have all of our data intact.
Until then, I'll keep my peripherals separate. If I lose my phone, I still have my music to keep me company.

[ethana2]

Nope.

Seems to me, if they're all one thing, like they should be, (a pc) it's that much easier to make them all waterproof at once.

I must admit, I've never heard anyone voice support for the logic of separating all your functions out on different devices. But assuming the central device sucks, I guess I see where you're coming from. You do have a windows machine, right?

[kyler]

it does (sorda)

to add contacts,music, pics, calendar events, etc.. you mainly use
the computer - iTunes for music, iCal for calendar, AddressBook
for contacts, iPhoto for pictures, etc - so as long as you don't lose
your computer, everything is, in a way, backed up...

http://www.apple.com/iphone/easysetup/getready.html

[sachin0072]

Nokia n95 has wifi..... it has every function a fone can ever have

Apple is for the amateurs ..... who just look at it and think it is the best gadget.... in terms of functionality.... apple is nowhere near nokia!!!

[muskratboy]

wow, EVERY function EVER!

that is truly an amazing device. is it from the future? Is nokia the recipient of far-advanced alien technology?

thank you, dr. hyperbole, for your insight. now i'm going to have my nokia n95 make me a cup of coffee and walk my dog.

[MRMOAV]

Horrible build design

Have you used the N95? The design build on it is terrible it just
terrible for a $700 phone . in a dark room it looks like the
phone is about to bust apart. Lite escapes from every nook and
cranny. I can't believe they actually built it this way, it is terrible.
However, the greates thing on then N95 is that you can use it
with 3.5mm standard headphone jacks. But you have to pay 200
bucks more for it then the iphone and it gets so hot after talking
on it for 15 minutes. The camera is great but the symbian OS
just ruins the photo editing features. Also, it is so slow, like
mollases in january and even worse it doesn't even work on our
3G networks for some reason. Plus the battery life is horrible,
horrible!!!

[rjpotts]

What are you smokin

and can you share it with the rest of us.

[Speiler9]

YEAH!

Apple is for the amatuers....!
Is that why everyone I know who runs a show intertainment world
either has an Apple computer or wants one? despite not being
prfect, ( and what company is...) they offer a great deal in terms of
stability and useabilty that Windows users are just plain jealous of.

Correct me if i a wrong!

[Macsaresafer]

It's not features but benefits that sell a product.

Sure, the Nokia has mostly the same features, but the iPhone
has all the benefits.

Web browsing for example, is a feature on both phones, but
because it's real web browsing on the iPhone it's a benefit.

Voicemail is a feature on both, but a benefit on the iPhone
because of Visual Voicemail.

Email is a real email client, so it's a benefit on the iPhone... the
list goes on and on...

[ethana2]

Well duh.

What did you expect? It's a crippled pc. PC's require smaller process sizes to be able to do what they do, because they need, on average, more processing power. I think all these dedicated devices need to die, and we need to see smaller laptops with better power saving features. I could play, well, multiple days of music if I configured the software right. And those man bags don't look half bad if you have the right glasses ;)

[Christopher Hall]

Never!

I cannot emphasize this enough: there is [b]never[/b] a valid excuse for a manbag.

[umbrae]

Also, I bet they use...

Recalled Sony batteries to help enhance you July 4th weekend!

[sandoggjack]

THAT'LL BE ONE SMUDGED UP SCREEN!

It may be glass and scratch-proof, but what about all the greasy finger smudges the screen will have constantly. You'll have to wipe it on your shirt, pants, dress after every use!

[kool_skatkat]

Business opportunity

Easy solution and business opportunity. There are clothes that you buy that you store with the phone. Finally that business will fly. People that have camera and wear glasses know where to get them.

[iMacUser]

YOU MORON! DON'T BUY AN IPHONE!

You know it won't be any good! The battery life will suck. I hear
the number "9" on the virtual keypad continually sticks. Just like
the AppleTV, it will never be hacked. Don't even think that you'll
be able to get your own widgets on board! I hear the battery
will likely explode. Also, it may violate several patents and will
likely be confiscated after you purchase it. It'll probably leave
the toilet seat up too. The iPhone has been known to start coups
d'etat in several small countries... like Rwanda & Burundi. Rumor
has it that Steve Jobs gets paid a 25 cent royalty on every single
TXT message you send AND receive. You'll probably have to pay
an extra $100 a month for a full binary data... the $50 plan only
transmits zeros and receives ones. The screen scratches if you
look at it the wrong way. It will randomly dial your friends at
3AM.

Hopefully everyone will listen to me and I can cruise on into the
AT&T on June 29th and pick up one without waiting! If you want
every feature known to man, buy a Windows Mobile phone, like
my current one. If you want a nicely, but by no means
exhaustively, featured phone that just plain works very well, the
iPhone is probably you're best hope.

[Magicland]

Cnet nothing but apple shills?

Nice chart. Where'd you get it? Oh, I see, Apple. Aren't you clowns supposed to be journalists? Can't you make up your own, unbiased comparison chart? Say, instead of a wifi column, with a 3G column? Oh wait, the iphone doesn't have that. How about instant messaging? Nope. Syncs with Outlook? Nope. Requires an itunes account. Oh, yeah, it does, but apple doesn't want to spread that you not only need a subscription with AT&T, but also with itunes in order to share any sort of data. And has ANY independant review estabished the 8 hour talk time? No? So give us a call when that's actually news rather than speculation.

[iMacUser]

EVERBODY IS SPECULATING!

A bit disingenuous yourself. What does establishing an iTunes
account cost? What's the big deal? Do you really think most people
interested in an iPhone don't already have an iTunes account??? 3%
of the people who actually purchase an iPhone will have to create
iTunes accounts because they don't have one yet. Big Deal... Non-
Issue.

Also, who still IMs? OK, all you AOLers put your hands down! You've
made your point! You can still use iPhone's Safari to go to aol.com,
log into your AIM account, and join the 1990s! Don't forget to IM
the Backstreet Boys while you're there!

Have you tried syncing it with Outlook? No? Give us a call when you
quit speculating. My Windows Mobile 5 phone doesn't even sync
with Outlook, at least not reliably. Microsoft's own products seem
to dislike syncing with each other. I'd list this as a "feature" of the
iPhone, not a "fault".

Is anyone afraid of iTunes? I'm sure there is an "iTunes For
Dummies" book out there... or, if you get confused, ask any soccer
mom how she syncs her iPod. iTunes is only used everyday to sync
the millions of iPods out there.

It IS a shame that it there will be no configuration involved... I'm
really going to miss ActiveStync!

[Fochsenhirt]

Well, duh

Of course everyone is speculating. The JesusPhone still hasn't been released. I hope everyone who claims to want a JesusPhone buys one for $600. Then the phones that actually let people do real work will be even cheaper. When it can get push mail from an Exchange server, let me know. Otherwise, I'll keep my Blackjack and nano.

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