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With the PS3 priced less than almost all standalone Blu-ray players, is it the best deal?

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The thing ps3 has over xbox 360
by netaddict6989 December 13, 2006 1:08 PM PST
hmmmm...xbox 360 doesn't have a blu-ray.
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Umm but it does have....
by lawgone December 13, 2006 5:43 PM PST
HD-DVD. The main knock on HD-DVD was that more studios were supporting Blu-ray. However, while this format war is still in the very early stages there seems to be a better selection of movies in HD-DVD. We'll see how it plays out. Personally, I have the XBox 360 and love it. But I wouldn't mind having the PS3 too.
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No - XBox 360 has HD-DVD
by slynger December 14, 2006 12:47 AM PST
the xbox 360 can not have "a" blu-ray just as the PS3 can not have "HD-DVD" these are two competing formats for the next gen DVD.

This battle is heating up, both the PS3 v XBox 360 and Blu-Ray DVD v HD DVD
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Xbox Doesn't Want Blu-Ray
by usadingo December 14, 2006 6:43 AM PST
While HDDVD is from Toshiba, Microsoft is backing them. Sony can have all the movie companies in the world - all Microsoft has to do is start putting HDDVD drives in all it's computers. The PC will decide this format war since most people prefer burners in their computers than stand-alone units.
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yeah... it's called a "format war."
by omegafiler December 14, 2006 6:44 AM PST
Because MS is backing HD-DVD, so they don't have Blu-Ray (but they could easily change formats in the event one of those losers actually becomes a dominate format). Sony is backing Blu-Ray (obviously, it's their format). Hence why Sony doesn't have HD-DVD.
Xbox HD-DVD
by 757addict December 14, 2006 11:39 AM PST
Xbox 360 has HD DVD but you have to pay 200 bucks more for a seperate unit, while ps3 has it built in, a clear advantage over the xbox 360. Plus, x360 doesnt play games on HD DVD so the only benefit of it is to watch HD DVD movies, which is totally pointless for most people...

My two cents, Blu Ray will win out over HD DVD due to PS3 support and in my reasearch, alot more support from retailers like Best Buy, X360 doesnt help HD DVD at all because the player is totally seperate so no one will buy it, and with lesser HD DVD players on the market HD DVD's will be in less demand, losing against the Blu Ray disc...
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Please read more carefully ...
by j_a_s_p_e_r December 20, 2006 10:16 AM PST
I said "can" have. Nothing stops a third party manufacturer from making one
none of it matters...
by Kaizer18 December 14, 2006 9:07 AM PST
Check out the link...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc
In 2-3 years both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD will be out-classed and completely out-matched by HVD. Don't waste your money now. The disks currently cost about $100, but at this stage in development CD's cost about $1000. This is the next stage in optical storage.
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You're Right!
by mindwarp311 December 14, 2006 9:42 AM PST
You're right, I'm convinced that if you want a Blu-ray player then the PS3 is the way to go. Thank God for this article. Now let me just go to Best Buy and buy a PS3. Oh wait min, no I can't. Dammit I forgot that those brilliant ppl @ Sony decided to release less than 200k of them so now prices are all jacked up. Well this turned out to be a pointless article then.
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Upscaling is the ESSENTIAL issue!
by natejohnstone December 14, 2006 3:14 PM PST
If PS3 only upscalled, oh what a wonderful world it would be!
I have several hundred dvds. I haven't been buying newer movies on dvd, since
I'm expecting to get a Blu-Ray player (in a year or so). I cannot afford to get a
Blu-Ray player AND a good upscaling dvd player (like a Denon), so I want a
machine that does both. I also want a next-gen video game system.
If PS3 upscalled, i could get all 3 of these needs met in oen machine, and would
happily pay even MORE than the $600 for one with a remote/IR/upscaling.
Oh well, I guess it' the Nintendo Wii for me, unless Sony says they're going to do
it...
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could not agree more
by joegillespie December 14, 2006 6:03 PM PST
you basically get a gaming unit for free. not to mention wi fi and internet connectivity for your television
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thanks for the lack of harmony use notice
by joegillespie December 14, 2006 6:07 PM PST
i have a harmony universal remote and did not know it would not work. that said, i am still going with it:)
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Why Blu-Ray Could Lose to HD-DVD
by racer152 December 16, 2006 9:55 AM PST
I am by no means ann HD-DVD supporter... I own PS3 and a Samsung 50" 1080p DLP (although it's not technically native due to the wobulation, and it has a lamp and color wheel instead of the LEDs, but 6 months ago it was the best out for the price)... Anyway, if you're reading this you understand what I'm talking about and are willing to do research on what format you're going to be buying, trust me, I graduated from U.C. Berkeley, I know what research is... But these people that go into Best Buy don't know jack and they think research is asking the salesman that's the 16 y/o kid and that kid is going to say that there's no significant difference in the format... Then, Joe or Jane Doe is going to go with the cheaper, less capable product - HD-DVD... Moreover, most people don't even have 1080p capable sets (although they could buy a cheaper 1080p set in the future) and right now and Satellite TV doesn't support 1080p (I wonder if DirecTv will support it with the new mpeg4 satellites, I guess they'd still need the content)... And we as American's are all about instant gratification... I'm guilty of it too, but I bought PS3 because of it's superior capability... Also, people who say 360 plays HD-DVD and it's cheaper haven't done the Math... $400 + $200 = $600... You might as well get the PS3 and you'll still have the backward compatability to all PS games.... I admit it, I didn't want to drop SNES for PS when it came out but look what happened, PS and PS2 rocked, I still us PS2 for DVD playback in the bedroom... Another problem with PS3 is no games are 1080p yet anyway. So, the only thing 1080p that Sony can sell are movies. So, Sony screwed up when they got the (superior) bluetooth contoller because no videophile will buy it because he's too lazy to learn to use the Sixaxis contoller for his (sub-par) home theatre... Betamax was superior to VHS.. Minidisc was argueably superior to CD... PS3/BD-DVD is superior to 360/HD-DVD... You get the point... If you own a PS3, buy as many BluRay products as you can because you'll only be helping the cause for BluRay, if not, you could have paid $600 for what will become a joke (a la Beta)... The masses are going to push us to HD-DVD because the masses are sheep, they go where the dog scares them to. The masses are under educated and can't afford PS3 or a Blu-Ray player let alone the big screen to play it on. To quote Michael Douglas in The American Presiden, "People don?t drink the sand because they?re thirsty; they drink the sand because they don?t know the difference." Thus, HD-DVD will win because people are stupid sheep.
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No way Jose
by Pakman3000 December 17, 2006 12:33 AM PST
You sound like a biased fanboy in your rant. I own a 360, Wii and a PS3. I have the HD-DVD add on as well and a 1080p set. Please tell me how HD-DVD is inferior to BD. They both are mastered in 1080p and the capacity difference isn't an issue. You're the moron if you think people are "stupid sheep" for getting a comparable disc format for less money. I got both so I could have my pick when it came to movies, but I feel Sony will fail because currently, HD-DVD discs are outselling BD movies in retail. Not much faith in Sony proprietary formats. They think they can push their formats upon the masses but fail miserably. Remember Beta, UMD, SACD, Minidisc and soon BluRay.
yup graduated, with a degree in art history? lol
by BerryFarmer December 17, 2006 2:33 AM PST
your the sheep, basically u ranted on about nothing and tried to brag about ur equiptment (which is actually subpar), had no solid argument, and then went on to quote michael douglas?

what has this world come to?

If you have something negative to say about a product have a better argument than "beta was better, mini disc was better, so bluray is better"

and then you went on to say the ps3 is better than the 360, well tell us why then.

regards
B. Farmer

ps- i own both the ps3 and the 360 so don't say i'm a fanboy, i'm just pointing out the obvious
Do you even know about the formats?
by i_am_still_wade December 17, 2006 5:24 AM PST
First off, DirecTV cannot offer shows in 1080p. HDTV resolutions are 1080i and 720p. That will not change. If they could go 1080p, it would be useless anyway because the source is 1080i or 720p.

Next, neither format is superior. End of story. But, all HD DVD movies are in the superior VC-1 format, which has superior quality for much less space. Some, not all, Blu-Ray use VC-1 and many use H.264 or MPEG-2. If you have the latter two, you need more than 25 GB to get a picture quality similar to VC-1, still VC-1 produces the best picture. That is why Fifth Element and House of the Flying Daggers looks so bad. Just because a player cannot display in 1080p doesn't mean that the movies are made for 1080p; they are. Time to do some more research.

Finally, consumers aren't stupid. That is what all Blu-Ray fanboys claim as to why they might lose, because consumers are stupid. They are not. They are informed, but not stupid. So when they see Blu-Ray, what is it? But they see HD DVD. They know DVD, and they know HD, therefore HD DVD is better. And they know prices. Cheaper is better. Blu-Ray will lose, or at best tie, because of the price and ambiguous name, and NOT because the consumer is stupid.
PS3 does tend to make people remorseful...
by spurned December 17, 2006 1:39 PM PST
You are an HD-DVD supporter anymore than you are simply delusional.
Blu Ray Disc
by Mich48 December 17, 2006 4:30 PM PST
What you don't seem to realize is that Sony had a problem with their PlayStation and had to get Pioneer to help with the reproduction of their Blu Ray Disc.

I know this because I do work in the industry.

Mich
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