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Do you know something the rest of us don't? The slim hasn't even been officially confirmed by Sony as real, & the PS3 bashing bandwagon is already taking potshots.
I think you'll find that it isn't Sony's console that has the heat & reliability issues.
You may pay more for the initial purchase of a PS3, but it's a higher quality made console with more in it. It's a lot better value as a piece of hardware than the 360 could ever dream of being, but you should pick a console for the games you want to play & the budget you have available.
Unless of course, you build yourself a decent gaming PC. That always works too, especially since there's a lot of great games available on Steam at great prices. And the fact that you can actually upgrade the console without buying a whole new one is always nice too. And look, free online for most games and... gasp, Blu-Ray options. Yay.
1. It costs more to build a decent gaming PC than it does to buy any current gen console, & that doesn't include the monitor, keyboard, mouse, desk.
2. PC gaming is a very isolated activity. You're essentially hunched over a keyboard mouse in front of a monitor on your own. I know you can go online, but a console offers multiplayer offline gaming & that's appealing.
3. It's nice to be spagged on the sofa or comfy armchair with a wireless controller in front of a 40" hi def tv - it's just more relaxed.
4. The fact that you can't upgrade a console (except the PS3's hard drive) can be a positive because you know that every game made for it will run as it was intended (barring bad programming & buggy releases).
5. Multiplatform release don't take advantage of the superior power of a gaming PC. Most are now dodgy ports from 360 & PS3 & because HD-TV's have a pretty good resolution the games can actually look better on a large tv rather than a decent monitor on a good resolution. Prototype on the PC at 1680x1050 at high settings looks absolutely awful on a 22" widescreen monitor (& has framerate issues on a PC that can run Crysis without problems) - I can imagine it being a better experience on console because the PC & monitor resolution just highlights what a complete lack of PC optimization this game had.
6. They take up a lot more space than a console - even a small PC. I have mine built into a Thermaltake Kandalf case which is huge, & I like it that way, but I can imagine it not being to a lot of peoples tastes.
The gaming PC has it's place & there are a lot of really good titles on it you can't get for consoles, but they are more complicated, more expensive, & take up more room. A console is just easier, & in the end it's about having fun.
Obviously you have no idea how to build computers as you have to use a huge case to get any performance out of your rig. You do know you could use a smaller case with a better cooling system and get incredible performance that far outstrips a console, even Sony's miracle cell chip that hasnt really done anything (another piece of Sony proprietary equipment finding its bottom to settle on). Your whole post is, unfortunately, ill informed especially since I can buy a cheaper-than-a-PS3 blu-ray to just drop right into my rig as well.
As far as the cost to keep your htpc up to date...I call BSW....it doesnt cost that much to upgrade the......what, wait what am I upgrading all the time? According to these two posts I am constantly buying things to make my PC faster, more powerful....what am I buying...ram?(10 gigs is enough I am pretty sure)...new graphics cards(nope, have 2 in tandem, and they play anything i put in...)...dont need more storage....
To address the original point of this article, no I will not be buying a PS3 at this price and I would be very surpirsed if they didnt practically cripple the slim (if there even is one yet) in order to get it where they want it. As some of you are so astute as to point out that Sony LOSES money on every PS3 they sell, meaning that they need to reduce the cost of the slim, MEANING slashing its capabilities a little I am sure.
Oh, and the PS3 ISNT a value at this price...it isnt a value at any price. I could live the rest of my life without it and not miss a beat. It isnt something that has any innate value to it, when you buy it try to resell it for what you bought it for and lose money on it, you will see it has no real value as it has nor real impact or benefit to you other than to occupy your mind when you have nothing better to do.
Anyone complaining about it being still to expensive for this economy just needs to relax. Should a 1080p 50 inch TV be sold for $100 and a 2009 camaro sell at $1,000??? You get what you pay for be it a 360 or Deawoo.
I'm not one of those guys that play all day everyday but I'm still a geek web developer and I love my PS3 and videogames.
I've also had a lot of laughs, and continue to have, with LittleBigPlanet and all my family.
I think paying US$ 50 for a great videogame that you'll enjoy for many months with friends and family is fair. Sometimes we spend much more going out to the movies (even if the movie sucks) and eating pizza with the family over the weekend.
Videogames are possibly the best alternative for entertainment in recession times.
...although I hate that I can't burn the crappy games that aren't worth $60 - but are still worth tryin out.
XBOX360 =D
Quote, "Obviously you have no idea how to build computers as you have to use a huge case to get any performance out of your rig. You do know you could use a smaller case with a better cooling system and get incredible performance that far outstrips a console"
I know exactly how to build a PC & I chose the Kandalf case because I liked the look of it - nothing to do with performance - I just like big cases, & like the look of the Kandalf, but that's just me, most people won't want to go that way. Oh, & there's nothing wrong with the cooling, it's quiet, & it works. I have a perfectly servicable PC for gaming that on pure power does outperform a console, but that was never my point. The Wii isn't as powerful as well...anything current, but it has an appeal because of the way you interact with it. If you're not tech savvy & can't be bothered dealing with an operating system & firewalls, & antivirus packages, & everything else you need to deal with on a PC then a console is far preferable if all you're going to use it for is gaming.
Who needs 10 gigs or ram?, 4 is more than enough, who needs 2 graphics cards? - all you've shown is that you obviously like to show off about how good your rig is, & that it must have cost you a fair bit of cash (unless it's 2 really cheap GPU's in which case, what's the point). Well, whoop de doo for you - if you're paying out that kind of money for an enthusiasts gaming PC you are in no position to complain about the price of a PS3.
As for your comment about buying a Blu-Ray drive cheaper than a PS3 to drop into the PC - maybe so, but you've still got to take into account the cost of all the components on top of the Blu-Ray drive, lets see - motherboard, cpu, heatsink, case fans, GPU or 2 (in your case), network card, sound card, case, ram, IDE/sata cables, DVD/CD drives, power supply, keyboard, mouse, speakers, & then you've got to put them all together, or you could pay through the nose for a pre-built one. Most people don't know how to put a PC together because most people don't care, they just want it to work, & PC's (even well looked after ones) are want to do a Windows on you & start acting up, it's just hassle most people can't be bothered with, & I don't blame them - I love tinkering with PC's but I know I'm in the minority. The people who peruse these kind of posts are usually a bit more tech savvy, but we're only a handful in a sea of millions.
Sony hasn't even confirmed the existence of the "slim" yet, so how can you say it'll be crippled. You also stated that the PS3 wouldn't be of value at any price. You're basically making up facts to suit your anti Sony stance, which is fine, if a little delusional. Nobody is forcing you or anybody else to buy the PS3 or any other console for that matter.
Oh, & if you need 2 PC's & a 65" tv to have fun with your wife/gf, then you need to get out more.
My uncle has a PhD in Chemistry and worked for Shell for over 15 years. He was laid off since the oil industry is hurting too.
The guy had a regular house and drives a Toyota. He isn't a "greedy oil" person.
Unfortunately for you and Sony, consumers disagree, that's why they're rotting on store shelves.
If the $400 price tag was "great", Sony wouldn't be suffering and wouldn't have to resort to including free games.
I don't think that including a free game or two is 'resorting' to anything. Including things as part of a package is pretty standard. Would you say the same is true of Microsoft with the XBox 360 Game of the Year bundle? They packaged in Halo 3 and Fable II for that one. I don't think this was a desperate marketing ploy for Microsoft.
- by jonathan_a July 7, 2009 2:19 PM PDT
- I think this bundle has more to do with the fact that Sony created a @#%load of PS3 40GB models with only 2 USD ports (instead of 4), no Card Reader and no Backward Compatibility with PS1 and PS2 games, that NO ONE BOUGHT, so they took all those consoles that no one wanted, upgraded the harddrive and re-packaged it as a bundle with 2 best selling titles.
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Showing 2 of 3 pages (108 Comments)As you can see... is this a sign that a PS3 slim is coming? Maybe... maybe not.... the way I see it, Sony is just trying to clean up their warehouse from a cheap PS3 model that no one was buying.