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Xbox 360 update: HD-DVD, 1080p, Zune, and quicker games of Dig Dug

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1080P Support
by AmericanCliche October 30, 2006 12:42 PM PST
Will 1080p image quality be as good via componet? I thought that only devices
with HDMI could do 1080p.

I have a new 1080p TV from Sony. I guess we'll see how the update goes.
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Technically Digital is Better
by agentbb007 October 30, 2006 2:27 PM PST
This page goes into a lot of good detail about DVI vs HDMI vs Component.
http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/34579/122868.html

To sum things up digital(HDMI,DVI) technically should provide the best picture(no loss). Component is analog which can have some amount of degradation. But I've been using component cables for 4 years and never see any degradation on my HD channels from Comcast.

There is a big problem with people believing component cables cannot do 1080P. The problem with component is if Hollywood turns on AACS in HD-DVD or Blue-Ray discs, component cables cannot handle AACS and will give you a 480p signal.
Re: 1080P Support
by ithappenz October 30, 2006 3:04 PM PST
You will need to purchase a HD VGA kit from Microsoft or Monster, and run this connection to your Sony via the VGA port. However, the VGA connection on Sony Full HD sets have been known to be very subpar. You could try to run a VGA to DVI to HDMI Adapter, but I don't know how much that will diminish your picture quality.

While Microsoft is great for offering HD-DVD at $200, they slipped when not offering some sort of HDMI solution.
Getting it...
by kyler October 30, 2006 2:12 PM PST
How do you get the update?
do you download it, or does it just come up on its own after released?
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It should be automatic..
by LiQuiD_FuSioN October 31, 2006 6:41 AM PST
It should be automatic, if you still can't get it to run try playing a game. When the game starts to load up, it should stop you from playing and it will ask you to update instead.

Hope that helps!
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New Cable Required?
by AutoTkGrad October 30, 2006 6:00 PM PST
I've been shopping HDTVs for some time and no component inputs accept 1080p thus far.
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Use VGA to HDMI adapter
by PhillyBoy919 October 31, 2006 7:26 AM PST
There are inexpensive VGA-to-DVI or VGA-to-HDMI video converters that you can use. Although if your TV is going to be under 50" it won't matter anyway since the human eye is not capable of distinguishing the difference between 1080i and 1080p unless the screen is over 50".
1080p out of a VGA cable?
by vandypsu October 30, 2006 6:16 PM PST
Sorry folks, this is not going to happen, at least not with the hardware listed. The bandwidth through analog cables is not nearly high enough. It is as simple as that. The other changes look good though. Compitition drives innovation. I just wish Microsoft had not rushed the 360 into production because the ceiling should be much higher than it is. Too bad, I was hoping to be able to play Crysis but am not willing to buy a PS3 or a new video card to play it.
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You are wrong
by PhillyBoy919 October 31, 2006 7:23 AM PST
1080p is actually possible over analog component cables (the PS3 is offering this actually) and VGA in addition to the obvious DVI and HDMI. Whoever told you that an analog cable cannot carry a 1080p signal was mistaken.
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Why is this a panic update
by rohitharsh October 30, 2006 7:00 PM PST
I am wondering why the article calls this a panic update by MS. Maybe they know something we don't. It seemed like pretty ovious that this update was coming for some time. In fact this fits in their strategy pretty well
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I guess because of the Zune/WMP 11 support
by LiQuiD_FuSioN October 31, 2006 6:43 AM PST
Other than that, I assume this update has been talked about for awhile now.
New Daylight Savings Time
by mattmcl1 October 30, 2006 7:59 PM PST
Yes there is a new Daylight Savings time as part of the Energy Act of 2005. And as a bonus for electronics makers it changes every year for the next 3 years!

Check out: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6393658
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*cough*sony fanboy*cough*
by ONLYinHD November 1, 2006 11:32 AM PST
The guy who says you can't do 1080p on VGA or component cables is a troll for sure.

If anybody wants to do a google search you will easily find that that guy doesn't know what he is talking about. He's clearly a sony fanboy with nothing to do but troll about the forums badmouthing the other game consoles - cause s0ny is sooo kewwwwl! ha ha. What a loser!

For the record, your PC might already be using 1080p output via VGA cable (1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz refresh rate) duh!
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Love the new updates
by robstak November 5, 2006 11:10 AM PST
Everything looks a lot nicer. And I had just finished complaining in the BOL Lounge about the lack of networked video support wihtout WMCE2005, and bam! now it's supported. Granted WMV only is pretty weak, but it's an effort. HOWEVER, after seeing PS3's media features... WOW. XBox is way behind in good looks!! We'll just have to see about function...
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