Comments on: Dying gamer tried to write killer's name in own blood

At the trial of David Heiss, accused of murdering fellow war gamer, Matthew Pyke, the jury is told that the victim tried to write the name of his alleged killer in his own blood to alert the police.

[subsider34]

Sad...just sad...

[ferricoxide]

No, it's "GET a life", not "take a life".

[Hammerhand]

The guy went to somebody else's house with a knife and a fake suicide note (made out in the name of the guy he went to see)... He stabbed the victim 86 times... Hmmm... Doesn't take a genius to do the math on this one.

I hope this nut gets the worst possible punishment - no leniency, no consideration for "mental instability" or any junk like that.

[Alwarming]

This whole news item is really really sad. My heartfelt condolences to the victims and their families.

By trying to evolve into a superior society, have really taken into account the ugly side of human nature ?
I grew up in a locality where gang fights, broken bones and [occasional] deaths surprised no one. However I was lucky to be in a setup where it was easy to see the value of doing well in studies. I chose IT industry because it was cerebral and as far removed from that world of mindless violence as I could imagine.

Seeing this kind of behavior in educated computer savvy person, I feel that my whole life was based on a wrong notion. People are people and depending on the situation they can be as bad as the worst goon on street..

I feel sorry for Heiss's family too. Perhaps they should do something to educate other people on these issues.

[this1!]

that absolute f*ck deservers to burn. absolutely zero mercy, 86 stab wounds buys you zero mercy. let him burn.

[Parrie_WoW_1976]

yes, he does!!

[loose_screw]

Jeezus, I know some people whose entire social lives consist of playing WoW during their nights and weekends.

I know gaming can be fun and addictive, but please unplug once in a while and learn how to socialize with people in real life.

[Parrie_WoW_1976]

AMEN 2 that!! i play WoW quite a bit myself, (& yes, it is QUITE addicting) but i ALSO know when 2 unplug & go out w/ my friends & do other things off the computer.....

[Bezerker03]

Has nothing to do with wow. Heiss is clearly incapable of social existence. How many times do we hear a man kills another man over his girl? It's life's sad points. People just can't cope. Wow has nothing to do with it.

[xcal78]

I watched 2 best friends beat the crap out of each other in high school. It ended when the one grabbed a nearby baseball bat and he proceeded to re-arrange his best friends face. They had to call in the helicopter to get him to the hospital. This was all over a girl and happened about 15 years ago. It's nothing new that people do this kind of thing.

[Erictheruler1]

xcal78 if you watched you weren't a friend to either of them if I see a friend of mine grab a bat I would stop him not let him ruin 2 lives. kid yourself not you didn't give a Sh*t about either of them. One in jail one in the hospital you're an awesome guy.

[rayzoredge]

Post-game brief would have shown Heiss's favorite weapon and stats.

Pretty good evidence there, methinks.

[rustylite2001]

You see, you see what happens when you mess with the Orphans.

[Azuraedge]

WOW I love the Anti WOW comments. The sad part was they weren't even playing wow.
"on their Advance Wars online gaming forum." This be a Nintendo DS game
"Heiss denies murdering Pyke" Deny it all you like, you had a hand in it and 86 stab wounds are not an accident. This guy should burn just to take the number of psychotic, stalkers down.

[playerone111]

wow i better check out this game

[Meowish]

did he drop good loots ?

[tipoo_]

Just a pickaxe.

[LogicProphet]

Man it this sucks, its hard enough as a geek gamer to find a girlfriend not to mention a girlfriend that likes games. That's down right rotten, being selfish like that ruining a couple's happiness for your own greed. they better not let him get away with it.

[odubtaig]

I don't know what's worse, the apes baying for blood (if he's psychotic he needs treatment, not punishment. No, I don't care for your self-righteous crap. Vengeance is not justice.) or 'comedians' like Meowish who I can only hope don't have the audacity to go looking for sympathy should anything bad ever happen to them because they're certainly not showing any signs of compassion.

[darth_chain]

yes ill have to agree you shouldnt get any mercy for that. he even said yes i was stabbed in the leg then he went to stab the other man 86 times. he does deserve jail time for this.

[Huaxi_tong]

so badly!

[sspadafo]

Writing your killer's name in your own blood as you lay dying is bad ass!!!

[NervClaX]

Agreed. It is scary that he probably knew his time was up, but still had the forethought and strength of will to ID his own killer.

[Dr_Zinj]

Most people who kill someone are insane at the time of the killing. They have a predisposed grudge against the person that escalates to physical violence at which point they have totally lost all control. By the time they cool down and are back in control of themselves, it's too late and the other person(s) dead. A lot of marital, family-related, and neighborhood deaths fall into this category.

People who accidently cause the death of someone often go temporarily insane once they've realized what they did. Such as when someone backs their car over a kid.

Serial killers can be considered insane because even though they may be able to function perfectly normally in society to the point you'd never guess they were killers, they have an uncontrollable need to kill.

The ones who meticulously plan and carry one the murder of someone, who have a purpose in doing so, are the ones who are sane. Murderous yes, with an agenda, but still in control of themselves.

[pjhenry1216]

You're drawing arbitrary points in terms of control. Particularly in the last two. If we assume that the serial killer has an uncontrollable need to kill, does he not have a controllable way to turn himself in? A person who plans murder is in control, but apparently has an uncontrollable need to get what they want.

When it comes down to it, the only one that *might* be able to get away with it being an accident and temporary insanity is the first example and normally only when they show enough remorse to show it really was an accident and the guilt is almost enough punishment in and of itself. The last two are almost no different. You're always able to stop yourself. A serial killer can stop themselves by turning themselves in, better yet, even before they commit one murder so that all they have to do is go to a mental institution that can help them and protect others at the same time. The last example has control at any point. But I stress the similarity of them both having control when it matters.

Also, that first example happens a lot less frequently than you'd think. Most of the time, most people can stop themselves. Its not always a matter of ability, but of choice. You can let yourself go or you can force yourself under control.

[coprophilous]

He stabbed him 86 times? Think about that. Try this: take your arm and make a stabbing motion. Now repeat that 85 more times and take note of how long it must have taken for this to occur.

Truly gruesome.

[ClaySills]

86? Good porn gets it done a lot quicker.

[NetApex]

You can't blame a video game for this one. It could have just as easily read "the users were friends over Myspace," or "They were talking about him in gym class." The part where you see the problem is "I thought that once he (Pyke) stepped outside I would give him a beating." When people take their online fights into the real world with intentions of causing physical harm, it just shows that there was already a bigger problem to start with. If Pyke didn't have a knife on him, it is likely that Heiss would have managed to take his life anyway. He came into the fight fully intending to do harm. 86 stabs is not a "self defense" fight. Consider the "He was on his back and I was sitting on him." I wouldn't flat out call him a serial killer or anything, but obviously he has a serious need for mental help, anger management, and missed out on some good old fashioned parenting as a kid.

[RSBaxter]

Take this guy to the Tower of London and show him the same mercy he had on his victim it would teach murderers a good lesson. He deserves a fate like the executioners axe, no amount of rehab can change him now or take away what he did.