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Comments on: The Yahoo + Google - Microsoft spin room

In the aftermath of the Microsoft/Yahoo/Google triangle changing shape, the analysts covering tech industry sports are weighing in with their opinions.

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by shmooth2 June 14, 2008 5:10 PM PDT
i think it's interesting that the last guy (white) was able to effectively kill Yahoo, and it was no big deal. so Yang takes over and all hell breaks loose - not because of anything that Yang did, but because the previous guy in charge - a white guy - effectively killed the company.

funny how that works.
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by FutureGuy June 14, 2008 5:25 PM PDT
Why did you have to point out that the last guy was "white"? What does that have to do with any of this? (I am not white by the way) What Yang did was stupid plan and simple. He pretty much gave the company future away just to stay independent. Yahoo is doomed.
by YankeePoodle June 14, 2008 7:11 PM PDT
I will participate in the racial stupidity. Dont you blame the Asian guy for hiring the White guy (who inturn as you said destroyed the company) ?

Terry Semel was horrible to Yahoo (and you cannot blame the entire white race for that). But Yang never set direction for the company, there are still debates in Yahoo whether it is a tech company or content company. FYI, Yahoo is touting that their OMG has more viewers than TMZ on their blog. How pathetic!!!
by pdx503 June 14, 2008 5:27 PM PDT
How is that funny? What does his being white have to do with anything?
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by super_soup1 June 14, 2008 5:33 PM PDT
Way to play the race card in this. I think its funny how nothing racial is ever mentioned but some sour jerk has to go ahead and bring it up. It is as meaningless as saying, a man from Arkansas destroyed the U.S. economy, but they blame the Texan that took office after him. Come on.

Aside from that, I would really like to see Yahoo's "alliance" with Google succeed. It seems like Yahoo is trying to be too much of a Wal*Mart. What I mean is they're trying to sell you everything, but not specializing in anything. If they can get good at one thing and expand from there, they may have a chance again.
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by qquidd June 14, 2008 6:01 PM PDT
Why not bring the race card up? Asian sets up a great company Yahoo, a "White" guy comes along destroys it essentially. Or lets take Sun, when that Asian is on board Sun makes hay. But the "White" guys can't bear to have him, show him the door and lo behold, Sun is eating ****. White guys are nothing but trouble with their fancy "civilization".
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by RackhamX June 14, 2008 6:33 PM PDT
Well, it's safe to assume that it isn't in ones best interest to look in the comments section for any intelligent conversation.

Unbelievable.
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by kevh53 June 14, 2008 9:53 PM PDT
I agree RackhamX... color don't matter a damn bit to me, and shouldn't to anyone. Guy 'A' screws up Guy 'B's great company, and some jerk notices that Guy 'A' has a different skin color than Guy 'B' and deems it to be the reason for Guy 'A's actions?? LOL. Guy 'C' is an ass, no matter of his color!
by YankeePoodle June 14, 2008 7:16 PM PDT
Time and again many internet companies have plunged into oblivion because of lack of strategy. Yahoo by giving away search is making a confession that it is no more a tech company but a content company. As we all know Content creation is old school and not much future to it any more. Your content is lunch for a google crawler. Yahoo's move was short-term and short-sighted. If there is any search competition to google it was Yahoo and they have effectively surrendered that postion now
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by khkhjkh June 14, 2008 8:16 PM PDT
I second to YankeePoodle comments. This is more of a strategy issue than other things.

It was long time ago when search crown was snatched by Google from Yahoo. And now what happened was just matter of time.
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by uhpl508 June 14, 2008 9:26 PM PDT
This is the inevitable outcome of a business that wanted to be involved in everything but could never put the resources together to really finish anything very well. Yahoo has been 2nd best at everything they've done in the last five years including search, search ads (which really they got from Overture in the first place), music, email, and all sorts of content and tools. I hope the money they get from this Google deal, if it goes through, gives them enough time to pick something to excel at, though honestly, I can't think what that would be.
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by Sugiarto Setiabudi June 14, 2008 10:33 PM PDT
Yang the man who is care about corporate governance system and Carl Ichan the man who is only care about asset values.

At the point of view of corporate governance system ,Yang is the best ,fit,and proper figure to run Yahoo.

Public should deter abusing market at early stage by illegal hostile take over .

Congratulation for Yang and Yahoo board for INTEGRITY,DIGNITY and their HUMAN BEING.for their hard effort to make Yahoo independence.

Yang and Yahoo board has been done great work to honor and to rewards Yahoo's employees who had worked hard for the company for years.

Yahoo has only alot of capital knowledge or intangible asset not tangible asset..

Keep yahoo severance plan in place !!!!!

No way for sick monkeys "business judgement rules"
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by t8 June 14, 2008 10:40 PM PDT
OK, so all white people are evil and destroy companies.

Now what?
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by thepoetrydude June 15, 2008 1:00 AM PDT
stupid stuff happens. as for the idiots playing the race card, grow up. If skin color (amount of melanin ) makes a difference to you, then your just screwed up. as long as people like you bring up the race color difference-whether it is to discriminate or promote due to skin color-then we will have racism in this world. I belong to the human race, that should be all that matters. One race. One people. Then again, the majority of the media uses skin color every day, because as long as they can keep racism, prejudice, and discrimination around they can make money off it.

As for Yahoo, they should wake up. They missed the boat, Microsoft would have been good for them. Google would be too, but Google will probably destroy a lot of bridges yahoo made too. Its a win-lose either way.
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by djc2k2k June 15, 2008 1:12 AM PDT
Yang and Yahoo board are basically telling their engineers this:

"Hey, you guys SUCK!"

They should all be fired for failing to make a right business decision - not once but twice. I don't give a **** about their race, the only thing that matters is the bottom line. To even bring up the race issue is just so idiotic in the first place.
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by Sugiarto Setiabudi June 15, 2008 6:05 AM PDT
For public knowledge, At Johnson & Johnson Directors' fiduciary duty go first to children,mother,doctor and nurse.and the last to shareholders.

Yang and yahoo board have made great effort to achieve good corporate governance system. by shift yahoo directors fiduciary duty from sharehoder to stakeholder (owners and employees)
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by Sugiarto Setiabudi June 15, 2008 6:06 AM PDT
For public knowledge, At Johnson & Johnson Directors' fiduciary duty go first to children,mother,doctor and nurse.and the last to shareholders.

Yang and yahoo board have made great effort to achieve good corporate governance system. by shift yahoo directors fiduciary duty from sharehoder to stakeholder (owners and employees)
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by Sugiarto Setiabudi June 15, 2008 6:06 AM PDT
For public knowledge, At Johnson & Johnson Directors' fiduciary duty go first to children,mother,doctor and nurse.and the last to shareholders.

Yang and yahoo board have made great effort to achieve good corporate governance system. by shift yahoo directors fiduciary duty from sharehoder to stakeholder (owners and employees)
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by direwolf08 June 15, 2008 2:04 PM PDT
This quote cracked me up:
"Now Yahoo! will do what it needs to do. Clean house, get lean, get out of businesses it shouldn't be in. Focus on what it's good at. And start making money and growing again."

What the hell IS Yahoo good at? Someone mentioned Yahoo tries to do everything and ends up doing nothing well. That is exactly correct.

Yang started Yahoo, it does not mean he knows how to run it. Nothing to do with race, it has to do with the fact that he has no business being CEO of a major public company. Sure, Semel blew it, but Yang&Co has had plenty of time to fix the problem. They should have come in and cleaned house. But they didn't. They just kept focusing on nothing. Moreover, the fact that they are climbing into bed with Google just to avoid MS just goes to show how much Yang's ego is wrapped up in the decision. That is not integrity. Well, Yang should look on the bright side, he will soon be able to go back to school and finish his Ph.D.
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by PacificGatePost June 15, 2008 2:40 PM PDT
YAHOO?S SHAREHOLDERS LOSE ON MORE THAN ONE FRONT

Great to see that cool heads have finally prevailed at Microsoft. Nevertheless, it was a seriously missed opportunity by Yahoo shareholders.

http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/05/yahoos-board-and-its-shareholders.html

They should have been more vocal. Now it's too late. Their board did not serve them well.
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by K.P.C. June 15, 2008 8:40 PM PDT
I don't see why the "experts" seem to think the Yahoo founders were stupid not to jump at the take over bid by MS.
I've been a Yahoo user . . . Well . . . forever (at least 15 years)
My very 1st email account is still active with Yahoo and I still check it daily even though have my own ".com" with personal email . . .

I tried MSN and Hotmail - I didn't like it . . .
I prefer Yahoo search results to Googles . . .
MSN search results are a joke . . .

MicroSoft has a history - they buy a company - take the parts they want and try to change it so it fits into the MS way of doing things and then they trash the rest . . .
Basically they would destroy Yahoo . . .

I personally have no desire to see Yahoo become MSN2 . . .
I'd have to go to Google
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by bjbrock June 16, 2008 4:16 AM PDT
Yahoo custumers are walking!

http://blog.wired.com/business/2008/06/marketers-see-l.html
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by shizhouw June 27, 2008 8:12 PM PDT
It'll be more interesting if Yahoo deside to connect to Google, but less competition. Well, if Microsoft want Yahoo as its MEDIA support, what does Google want? Media??? Or the database?! Or even the unlimited email service...
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