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It's a grand idea, but it's hard to see Microsoft, Yahoo, or the duo pulling off a Windows Media-based phone born of a Wi-Fi-enabled Zune plus Yahoo and MSN online services.

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by rcrusoe April 14, 2008 8:11 AM PDT
Is there a Y!Phone coming? Personally, I'd think a Zune heritage would be a lot of baggage to hang on any new device.

I know one person who admits they own a Zune. And that one was a gift from a non-tech savvy parent.
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by lmasanti April 14, 2008 8:26 AM PDT
Apple builds from ground up... A wonderful OS on top of which it put a Touch Interface and brings to us in a nice hardware integrated to iTunes...
So, Microsoft will stick with bad glue a lot of unresponsive and uncompatibles elements and it... "could be the device that everyone truly wants."
Sorry, Jason, I have a nicer taste for quality than you!
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by texasphotoman April 14, 2008 8:57 AM PDT
By the time MS could "buy" something, not come up with any thing on their own, that would compare with the iPhone, Apple would have already developed one even better.
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by wigmo April 14, 2008 9:03 AM PDT
Apple didn't build their OS from the ground up, try again. As for the conceptual zune phone it's pretty rotten. It would be easier to just incorporate zune features into their existing os than to try and port telephony over to an mp3 player.
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by anon8mizer April 14, 2008 9:31 AM PDT
"Is there a Y!Phone is Microhoo's future?" I don't know. Can I has a spell checker? :)

You saw the IDG report on Windows OS. It's too bloated to run on anything that's price competitive in the mobile space. Microsoft's effort is dead in the mobile space until they re-architecture the windows operating system to make the kernel smaller. Otherwise Microsoft's overhead in product mgmt and marketing to make the mobile OS and desktop OS 'appear' to be the same (in terms of being able to run similar microsoft apps) will be way too much of a waste for them. Sure. They can throw a ton of money at it. But there will be no 'passion' from the internal developers to push this out the door as the friction from the desktop team and the mobile team will take its toll.

Apple won here because MacOS X as well as the iphone OS is based on the MACH kernel from CMU long time ago. It's a very small kernel and light. Besides that, you have the Steve factor. He dictates UI at apple, where as at microsoft the UI is designed by a collection of human interface designers schooled in cognitive sciences and anthropology.

The dictator wins.
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by anon8mizer April 14, 2008 9:32 AM PDT
"Is there a Y!Phone is Microhoo's future?" I don't know. Can I has a spell checker? :)

You saw the IDG report on Windows OS. It's too bloated to run on anything that's price competitive in the mobile space. Microsoft's effort is dead in the mobile space until they re-architecture the windows operating system to make the kernel smaller. Otherwise Microsoft's overhead in product mgmt and marketing to make the mobile OS and desktop OS 'appear' to be the same (in terms of being able to run similar microsoft apps) will be way too much of a waste for them. Sure. They can throw a ton of money at it. But there will be no 'passion' from the internal developers to push this out the door as the friction from the desktop team and the mobile team will take its toll.

Apple won here because MacOS X as well as the iphone OS is based on the MACH kernel from CMU long time ago. It's a very small kernel and light. Besides that, you have the Steve factor. He dictates UI at apple, where as at microsoft the UI is designed by a collection of human interface designers schooled in cognitive sciences and anthropology.

The dictator wins.
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