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According to a Pew survey, the Internet has overtaken newspapers as a main source of national and international news. But newspapers still supply much of the seed news content that's refactored by millions of bloggers.

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by hardaway December 25, 2008 9:13 AM PST
From your lips to God's ears, Dan. I think we are going to have some kind of civic revolution as a result of what is happening now. Or rather, I hope we do. If we all sit back and just watch, we will get more of the same. We have to let Obama and his team know how we feel and what the priorities are. If our priorities are seen to be information, the advertisers will get there somehow.
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by zhanate December 25, 2008 9:23 AM PST
Something is being presented wrong here. How can the percentages of respondents add up to 145 (70+40+35)?
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by solitare_pax December 26, 2008 4:51 AM PST
It's called Webmaster Math - take a number, add to it, add to it again and repeat to infinity to impress your advertisers that YES your business models work because it's the shiny new Internet - and since the rubes who hold the purse strings can't operate a solar-powered calculator without getting sunburn, they fall for it and shell out money to the new guys, letting the newspapers fold and die.

They use the same concept on home mortgages, hedge funds, and investment schemes too.
by arizonahuskerfan December 25, 2008 10:16 AM PST
"television, led by CNN, continues to serve as the main source"

I think a little bias is going on here. Fox News absolutely BLOWS AWAY CNN. MSNBC is too small of an audience to really even call a serious competitor.

CNN leads in absolutely NOTHING. Fox News beats CNN, MSNBC, Headline News and CNBC... COMBINED! If this research shows anything other than this fact, then it goes against every single survey (including Nielsen ratings) I have ever seen. I work in television, so I am certainly in the know. By the way, I do not work for Fox News or any Newscorp property.
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by CBSTV December 25, 2008 10:45 AM PST
But is Fox News "news"? There might be some bona-fide "news" mixed in, but the Fox cable channel is largely commentary.
by dfarber December 25, 2008 12:02 PM PST
From the Pew study: The survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, conducted Dec. 3-7 among 1,489 adults, finds there has been little change in the individual TV news outlets that people rely on for national and international news. <b>Nearly a quarter of the public (23%) says they get most of their news from CNN, while 17% cite Fox News; smaller shares mention other cable and broadcast outlets.</b>
by CBSTV December 25, 2008 10:48 AM PST
Newspapers are the assignment desks for broadcast and web media outlets. Who is going to perform the basic grunt work of journalism after the newspapers are gone?
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by actualtiger December 25, 2008 1:45 PM PST
I'm obviously an outlier - I rely on the radio as my primary news source

Is there a news website that includes a crossword puzzle. My local (Sydney Morning Herald) doesn't, nor do the NYT, The Guardian, The Times or the Jerusalem Post. The NYT has a subscription puzzle service, so it seems to think its website readers are willing to pay for their puzzles, but not for their news -- what should we make of that?

I suspect that along with the newspaper we're also witnessing the demise of the crossword puzzle.
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by lucywinters February 6, 2009 3:06 PM PST
The Sydney Morning Herald does have it's crossword online...it is just a little hard to find. Here is the link to take you directly to it:
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/puzzles/premium/quick.html
I have it bookmarked so I can go to it every day. You can also access past crosswords if you miss a day.
Good luck!
by Francis_Burdett December 25, 2008 7:18 PM PST
Just curious as to exactly why the above list of media sources leans so resoundingly to the left.

That is of the non-major media outlets, which would present themselves as studiously non-partisan; all but the centrist 'The Politio and The Hill, (and I know nothing of "Ben Smith's blogs") are strongly and proudly on the left.

I am of course not surprised that the list would tilt left but I am surprised that not a single center-right blog would make even the top 25.
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by nziemer December 26, 2008 4:19 AM PST
I think that its interesting that observations made about print news fading is now being discussed as something that is just now happening. Im from a college generation that has been reading news online ever since 1994 and also when netscape first came out.

I had also been reading internet news stories since 1998 from college on our internet system. I am of a generation that had never subscribed to an actual printed newspaper before.. ever. I doubt I will ever do so in the future. Internet news is clean, no link, no wasted trees, conserves space, after youre done reading, you simply move on.
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by nziemer December 26, 2008 4:21 AM PST
Made a typo.

I had also been reading internet news stories since 1998 from college on our internet system... should be 1988.
by groink_hi December 26, 2008 11:01 AM PST
Though this finding is true, I wouldn't say it is a good thing. Back when we didn't have the Internet, we didn't see the likes of Rosie O'Donnell blabbing her conspiracy theories - which by the way she picked up on the Internet. I would make the following suggestions to both the readers and the writers:

Writers - let the news marinate! I've seen time and time again wrong information uploaded because the writer was able to by-pass the editor and upload in order to be among the first to report the story. Also, I want to see a lot more traditional writing, and a lot less blogging I'm seeing on C-Net and such. Though blogging does serve a purpose, most readers don't see the distinction between a blog where the writer has full control of the content, versus a traditionally edited article where it went through the editing process of one or more reviewers.

Readers - Avoid reading blogs thinking it is mainstream news. I believe the country is divided even more because more and more readers are sticking to news/blog sites that lean in the same direction and just re-affirms their beliefs. We shouldn't be reading news to re-affirm what we "think" is true. Rather, we should be reading news that is balanced.
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by Xerolooper December 26, 2008 1:30 PM PST
In a perfect world. Unfortunately people are often motivated for the wrong reasons.
by Pala98 December 26, 2008 1:22 PM PST
I propose that a forest in Oregon or perhaps an entire Candian province be named to honor Tim Berners-Lee .

Digital is Green.
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by i_am_still_wade December 27, 2008 6:06 AM PST
Newspapers are dead. May they rest in peace. We now get our one-sided biased information from CNN or Fox News. Why should I pay to wait for news that happened yesterday? And why would I want to read about it tomorrow when I can watch about it now?

There are two things newspapers can do: die gracefully or die in a blaze of glory spreading twisted information. The big ones are going to choose the later. If they lean left then everything is Bush's fault and Obama is the second Messiah. If they lean right, then the Democrats are scaremongers trying to raise our taxes and sacrifice our children and Bush just had a bad rep. Is it true? Of course not. But headlines like that are the only way to get people to buy the newspaper. If you think I'm joking, one of the New York papers already blamed Bush for the economy even though a free market is, by its very nature, much more powerful than any government. Was it true? Of course not. But I bet it sold a lot of papers.

There are three things in life that are guaranteed: death, taxes, and change. Either you embrace change, or fade into obscurity. Big corporations hate change and do everything they can to fight against change. But it is like punching a brick wall in that fighting change is futile. Newspapers are dead. May they rest in peace.
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by actualtiger December 27, 2008 7:08 PM PST
The printing of news has never been the major source of revenue for newspapers, classified advertising is what generated the media mogul's "rivers of gold". And it's the migration away from newspapers of classified ad readers that is the primary source of the newspapers demise, not the migration of news story readers - that happened many many decades ago.

I'd be interested to see some stats on the "print media" versus the 'net - I'd not be surprised if the sales of quality magazines (e.g. Vanity Fair, The Weekly Standard, New Yorker, The Spectator) were not on the rise.
by classifieds December 28, 2008 3:48 PM PST
Information lives on through online classifieds
http://adlandpro.ws
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by ThomasWhitney January 23, 2009 3:02 PM PST
Information is information. Historically we save what we can and much of it gets lost in time. What lives is how we see the whole picture. That is why preservation is so important. On that note, I've been thinking about digital security lately and trying to keep abreast on it. see http://www.justaskgemalto.com I figure that if we are going to preserve information for historical purposes we are going to have make sure it's secure. Just thinking.
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