Comments on: AMD lawyer: Intel would 'like us dead'

In latest dispute between the rival chipmakers, AMD thinks Intel is being predatory, while Intel believes it's simply protecting its intellectual property.

[slickuser]

Arab Micro Devices should make the agreement public? What it is trying
to hide?

[pipercub194123]

slickuser, you sound like an INTEL MOLE. No brains to post a comment like you did.

[pipercub194123]

The truth is that Intel is being predatory for darn sure

[jdelkinsoregon]

Hater.

[dcmichie]

Maybe if AMD made a product people wanted, yet alone companies wanted, which would require it to be actually revolutionary. They wouldn't suck so much. Intel could crush AMD in no time, they just don't want to have to deal with the government agencies.

[pithenumber]

AMD makes great procuts, the Radeon HD 48x0 and the Phenom II's

[3rdalbum]

AMD makes two products that people want. They are called the Radeon HD4870x2 and the Phenom 2.

[dudemanguysondog]

Since intel could not take the x86 to 64 bits, but AMD could seems to indicate to me they do intel chips BETTER than intel. As an end user I can't see any difference in performance, just price, with AMD usually being cheaper. If I were to build a system tomorrow i would go with AMD.

[Nataku4ca]

most end users dont get the chance to compare(not knowing how either), yes but if u only base purchase on price a year or two ago u might regret it, but then again most general users don't use all the juice from the cpu and yes low to mid for amd is becoming very competitive but really, if u say u only base purchase on price that would just be sad and uninformed

[jdelkinsoregon]

Dude, what rock did you crawl out from under, have you read anything in the tech press in the last couple years?!?!? Go to your favorite AMD fanboy site, maybe Raul Sood, or ? Even Raul has been reporting since Core 2, and even more so with i7, AMD doesn't even hold a candle to Intel in performance, maybe you don't run games like Crysis or Lost Planet, oh thats it, I am sure, Solitare probably performs awesome on AMD. Go crawl back under your rock.

[a_flores]

AMD always being a loser to Intel. Come on AMD, can you give us a better processors than Intel's?

[tipoo_]

Intel has about 10x more employees than AMD, its realy a wonder they are able to be so competitive after all this.

And "better" is subjective, yes, Intel has the performance crown, but the Phenom 2's offer great bang/buck.

[pithenumber]

@a_flores
AMD gives us better processors than Intel
Ph2 720 v C2D E8400, the ph2 is noticeably faster and costs less

AMD jnot having the performance crown doesn't mean they make bad products

[Zakney]

It is getting a bit old.

I like to think that there is still hope for AMD to make a comeback, remember P4?

[pithenumber]

they have hope
its Phenom 2

[zyxxy]

x86_64 is an AMD based design, done while Intel wasted time and money on Itanium, which was slated for larger servers. You wouldn't have 64bit processors in your home PC today without AMD's efforts.

Opteron was a significant step up in x86_64 server chips, and one of the reasons Itanium never caught traction. While Intel/HP were struggling down that path, Opteron provided solid server performance with a simpler migration path. If anything, AMD's success with Opteron forced Intel to refocus on their core market.

AMD forced Intel to focus on architecture and to de-emphasize clock speed as the only performance enhancer. AMD chips out performed Intel clock-per-clock for a long time. Intel finally went back to the architecture and now we have Core2 and I7. Both superior to the netburst architecture in terms of work per clock and work per watt.

AMD beat Intel to market with processors that directly connected to DRAM memory, bypassing the bridge.

AMD beat Intel to true multicore on a single die. Not hyper threading, and not packaging tricks, but true multicore.

So the list goes on.

Intel has a lot of smart talent, but they don't innovate unless they are forced to. They would far prefer to milk a single product to maximize return, which is entirely sensible for a company to due. Competition is what drives innovation, and a lot of Intel's advancement in the last fifteen years has been in response to AMD's innovation.

I still thing that AMD systems often beat Intel on bang for the buck, but as processors costs drop as a percentage of system costs on mid range systems, AMD's margin is shrinking faster than Intel's.

[tipoo_]

Very well put.

[alegr]

And lack of virtualization support in Itanic makes its niche even narrower.

[tipoo_]

Intel's advertising budget alone is probably bigger than AMD's entire business, you have to sympathize with a company like AMD.

[chrisc962]

This is not the first time AMD has used foundries for manufacturing. It would be interesting to see if they needed to renegotiate then as well.
AMD 486 foundry search taps DEC Scotland plant
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EKF/is_n2001_v40/ai_15031863

[Get_Bent]

Of course Intel would like to get rid of AMD. Without any direct competition in the x86 processor market, Intel would be free to raise their CPU prices at will.

[eightwings]

AMD will make a big comeback when it stops being a me-too company. The world is moving to netbooks and other portables which means that the x86 processor is no longer a necessity. People want internet connectivity, not compatibility to either Intel or Microsoft. It is about time that AMD quits thinking that last century's antiquated CPU technology is going to be viable in a parallel universe. AMD and everybody else will soon wake up and realize that the old CPU paradigm is on its last leg. It will be too late for some but I hope that AMD (or Nvidia) wakes up first. Intel is just too old-school and set in its ways to notice the writing on the wall.

How to Solve the Parallel Programming Crisis:
http://rebelscience.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-to-solve-parallel-programming.html

[mycall]

"The world is moving to netbooks and other portables"

Unless you are a professional that needs workstation class hardware; enterprise, media and scientific computing will always need desktops, workstations and servers.

[MicroController]

The market is flooded with slow Intel products such as Celerons, and low end Core 2 Duo CPUs. On average an AMD system outperforms an Intel, due to the huge number of low end Intel products out there.

A friend of mine was going to buy a laptop. I told her to ask the sales men or an AMD comparison. She was told that AMD CPUs are 'unstable'. This is the kind of trickery that is going on in the today's market.

She ended up with a Core 2 Duo with Intel Mobile Graphics 'Centrino 2' (Slow as anything when watching movies, or even photos). When for the same price she could have got a Core 2 Duo with dedicated ATI / NVIDIA graphics, or a balanced PUMA platform from AMD.

[rollaire2]

LOL, I think thats pretty much the way ANYONE feels about your average bottom feeder, blood sucking attorney! LOL

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[jdelkinsoregon]

Typical AMD tactic, if you can't compete with product in the marketplace, maybe you can compete in the courtroom with the victim mentality that is so prevelant in today's world / economy.

[connexion-]

AMD is a really good company for computer chips, in my opinion. Intel is an overpriced brand and is not always the best! Buy AMD!