Comments on: XP update throws some for a loop

After moving to Windows XP Service Pack 3, some AMD-based systems are getting stuck in an endless reboot cycle. Microsoft says it is investigating.

[rmva]

I am appalled that Microsoft didn't anticipate this problem. They obviously knew about it four years ago!

[wolivere]

Yes and they warned OEM's 4 years ago. I'm sorry if you don't clean up your own issues why expect others to do it for you.

See this is why you have bloated code. You can't rely on people to actually read relase notes or patch's... or in this case OEM's to even follow simple instructions.

Thus you need to code in for stupidity, which results in code bloat which results in people saying why is the code so bloated? BTW I use to run my CP?M share ware app on my Win 3.11 box why can't I run it on my XP box?? Microsoft sux

[groink_hi]

Microsoft did the due diligence in instructing the OEMs in 2004. Although you know that techs continue to improperly image PCs, you cannot expect Microsoft to address techs not following procedures. This lack of following procedures is just one of the many things PC builders continue to do, along with other things such as installing the wrong HAL.

[smokified]

Your one of those idots who does not recognize that Microsoft is actually good at making software aren't you....

[custompcmax]

Makes you question who is lining M$ pockets... Any bad press for AMD systems is killing them at the moment, and only make Intel look so much better. But, I am just speculating. M$ should have anticipated and nullified this problem, prior to rolling out the update. They are only like the biggest freaking software company in the world, they should have enough resouces to cover things like this.

[azcomicgeek]

Typical Anti-MS rhetoric, blame MS for an OEM issue. They tried to save a few bucks by mass imaging regardless of chipset and you blame MS for a problem they had no control over. I am no MS fanboy but even I can see this is an OEM/AMD issue, not MS/Intel. Force incompatible software onto a system and things are bound to go wrong when updating.

[fgsdfgdsfgdsfg]

this isn't microsoft's fault.

only a complete idiot would build a windows image on an intel based system and then install that image on a AMD system with a different motherboard and chipset and CPU.

Microsoft has been saying don't do that since windows 3.1 people.

there are some programs that let you restore images to different hardware platforms, but you have to BUY that software. Acronis snap deploy is a good example.

[Imalittleteapot]

Yes, Yes, and more Yes. I'm so glad I didn't have to post that myself.

[Tergon]

That said with all your comments but I'm going to add this helpfull piece of advice for those who are (or who have clients who are) using AMD Processors.
Windows reference dot com has advice to fix this issue.
Plz Note I have nothing to do with (employmentwise) MS, AMD, Intel, CNet or Windowsreference.com (or any one else). Knowledge is free
I couldn't post a link so

[JCPayne]

Updating windows.....

(In the words of my old C programming book....)

while(dead_horse)
beat();

[smokified]

Would you prefer that they just don't offer you updates? For the amount of money that people spend on a copy of windows, I am glad they offer full time support. Pull your head and that book out of your ass and think with both sides of your brain.

[gggg sssss]

Told them not to buy AMD

[TechieTrekkie]

Reason #497032 to get Linux.

[smokified]

Except for if you plan on using your computer.

[rpdwpb]

Reason to buy apple!!! This is completely MS's fault. Their Service Packs are HUGH and could easily be coded to tell the difference between systems, it's just MS passively ignoring the tangled mesh that is their defective Windows product line.

** MS Software is the only product you will intentionally plan on buying defective **

[ncaissie]

Apple blows.
They are for the retard useres that can't take care of their own hardware and need the OS to do everything for them. It's so locked down to prevent the retard user from messing things up.

[smokified]

Are you serious? Is this the only article you have read this year? Leapord is the most insecure operating system out there. MS products are constantly updated with security updates and fixes. Doesn't Apple release a new version of OSX more often than MS releases a service pack?

[v0dkacomradwe]

It amazes me that vendors could not work better together to resolve these kinds of things before SP3 got dist'ed to the public. This is a reason to expect, no DEMAND, quality and respect from companies. In my opinion, these days if you aren't a "shareholder" your opinion likely doesn't mean squat. Buying and using (and even referring?) a company's products, software and hardware, no matter how much you spend, isn't good enough apparently. Although this wasn't all Microsoft's fault, enough of the blame IS theirs! It's also a sad reminder for those of us who are or were AMD fans (like me) that AMD is slipping further into the abyss of irrelevance (say it ain't so!).

And NO! Linux and Apple fan boys and girls, it's not a reason to go out and get Linux or Mac OS. Windows XP is a good, mature OS (notice I didn't say Microsoft is a "great" company, just talking about the OS...so we are clear on that!). If Windows and Microsoft weren't around, believe me, the mega corps standing behind Linux might be "prone" to this kind of corner cutting too (YES there is BIG MEGA CORP MONEY behind Linux and Mac too, why is that point never mentioned!??!) It is popular to bash Microsoft, I am not going to argue that. However, that's all it amounts too...bashing just because it's the "thing to do" (reminds me of peer pressure high school kids experience!). Drop the Linux 'tude and the Apple fanboy arrogance and please stop acting like a bunch of politicians and salespeople in the face of real technical issues (oh and when is Apple or the companies backing Linux ever going to "pay" you for your promotion of their wares? Here's a hint...NEVER!!). I don't seem to ever remember hearing that the Mac and Linux OS'es, or any systems that run them, were perfect and flawless in every regard (I know, I've used them all!) Nuff said.

People should use whatever OS is appropriate for their needs! Manufacturers and vendors need to get their s^%t together for the good of their customer base! Period.

[KSman01]

The SP3 install knows what the processor is. It could check for some known conflicts. Then it could issue warnings, instructions and abort, or rename the offending files and continue. Pointing fingers at system manufactures is not of much comfort when one's system does not work.

[1evr]

How many AMD or MS bashers did not read or do not understand the point???

".........OEMs improperly placing a Windows XP image created for an for Intel-based computer onto machines with non-Intel chipsets"

OEM's such as HP did the dirty on consumers.