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Comments on: Survey: Many businesses plan to skip Windows 7

In a new poll, 60 percent of IT administrators said they have no plans to move to Redmond's new operating system.

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by Kainchild July 13, 2009 9:13 AM PDT
Maybe they are just scared this thing will turn out to be the next Vista.
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by Dango517 July 13, 2009 9:59 AM PDT
Most surveys are not worth the paper they're written on. We no longer respond to telephone surveys as much personal (corporate) information can be revealed from them. Show me the survey and tell me how it was distributed and I'll review your data..

In two and a half years of Vista use we have had two (2) viruses. With XP it averaged two a month. Our annual cost for security software is about $60.00 retail * 21/2 years = $150.00 (US), nearly the cost of a Windows OS. Over a five year usage of Vista we will pay $300.00+ (US) for security software. Where do you think Corporations and I would like to reduce our costs? BTW, Windows will be giving away security software soon. I'm wondering if it will be exclusively for Windows 7 users?.


Hackers aren't stupid they go where the users are. Window users are 80% of the people using OSs. 10% for Mac and 1% for Linux/other.

The longer a OS stays around the longer the hackers have to find weakness's in it.
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by facerw July 13, 2009 10:33 AM PDT
Some businesses have held off their decisions to buy Vista because of the problems as well. However I'm betting some businesses are testing Win7 to see what it can do and have their developers get started on porting or writing applications specifically for this OS.

On the other hand some businesses may no longer have a choice but to go to Win7. Microsoft plans to drop support by 2011 and many businesses may have no choice but to go to Win7.

Personally I skipped vista and wasn't to impressed with it the first time around. Win7 does everything I need. Yes I have some apps which are no longer going to work but that's the breaks of it. I prefer the new features in Win7 then some of features found in older systems. Don't get me wrong XP will still be running in parallel to Win7 until such a time as I see fit to kill XP support for good.

And this comes from the same person who also ran Win2000 until late 2007/2008.
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by facerw July 13, 2009 10:34 AM PDT
Some businesses have held off their decisions to buy Vista because of the problems as well. However I'm betting some businesses are testing Win7 to see what it can do and have their developers get started on porting or writing applications specifically for this OS.

On the other hand some businesses may no longer have a choice but to go to Win7. Microsoft plans to drop support by 2011 and many businesses may have no choice but to go to Win7.

Personally I skipped vista and wasn't to impressed with it the first time around. Win7 does everything I need. Yes I have some apps which are no longer going to work but that's the breaks of it. I prefer the new features in Win7 then some of features found in older systems. Don't get me wrong XP will still be running in parallel to Win7 until such a time as I see fit to kill XP support for good.

And this comes from the same person who also ran Win2000 until late 2007/2008.
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by asandst1 July 13, 2009 10:57 AM PDT
I'm still using Windows 2000 with some XP computers. Having the best computers is not a big deal to businesses like the home user likes to have. This is some tech journalist should consider when writing about the up coming systems. Businesses will get Windows 7 when the workers computers start to die.
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by jessiethe3rd July 13, 2009 1:21 PM PDT
The nice thing is with Windows 7 you can take that old hardware that you couldn't run Windows Vista on and load up Windows 7. Get a simple to manage, easy to understand, OS experience across all your desktops. You get updated security, virtualization options, some very nifty productivity increases, and from a management perspective the connection with Windows Server 2008 R2 is nothing short of impressive.

Seriously... being that this community is majorly tilted towards Mac OS and Linux Distribution it would be unreasonable to expect any other banter except a lot of skeptics. Most people in the corporate space I have spoke to (a very large # of companies) are planning and testing Windows 7 against internal applications today. Not only that but Microsoft is stepping up and paying partners to get testing for early adoption.

The reviews are already good so why would people hold off? Because the cost don't justify the means? Hog wash - the reduction in admin costs / operational costs for an unsupported OS alone is reason to move - companies realize this.
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by Orion Blastar July 13, 2009 2:13 PM PDT
Well migrating to Windows 7 might not make much sense during a big recession, especially when Windows 7 like Windows Vista has issues running "Legacy Windows Software". While Microsoft is trying to solve that with Windows 7 Pro and up having an optional XP Virtual Machine download to run legacy software, it might not be 100% XP compatible.

Switch to a Non-Windows platform? They cannot as they invested large sums of money to buy or develop the "Legacy Windows Software" that does not have a Mac OSX, Linux, BSD Unix, HaikuOS, AROS, OS/2, or even Java based equivalent. You have to remember that a company does more than just documents, accounting, taxes, etc. Hospitals need a certain type of software that is not general business, Law Firms need a certain type of software that is not general business, most companies need software that is custom made to their business modem and business system, some of the time they develop their own software. Switching to a Non-Windows platform is not as easy for a business as it is for a person. A business not only has to switch to a different OS, but either buy new software written for that OS or pay the cost of developing it themselves, and then pay the money for the data transfer from the Windows platform to the new platform.

That is why Microsoft has the "lock in" for businesses, most of the business software is written for Windows based technologies; however, most of it is written for Windows XP and under. The reason why a company skips Windows Vista or Windows 7 is that it cannot run their "Legacy Windows Software" and they cannot afford to upgrade that software to the new Windows platform so they stick with older versions of Windows.

Why do you think Apple went with Intel Macs that can run Bootcamp to run a version of Microsoft Windows? Because Mac OSX won't run the business aps that a business needs to operate and earn a profit. Why do you think Linux and BSD Unix have the option to dual boot with Windows or run WINE? There almost always has to be an option to run Microsoft Windows or an older version or software like WINE to run older Windows code for the "Legacy Windows Software" that won't run on the Non-Windows platform.
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by thephenom99 July 13, 2009 10:15 PM PDT
All this stimulus stems from large businesses (GM, AIG, Chrysler, Sachs and company) that pleaded for bailout funding. Republicans favor large businesses and small government. The large businesses were governing themselves without any government intervention until the bailout pleas. The president (Democratic) responded to big businesses bailout pleas. Madoff was big business with small government and you know the rest.
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by zzzxtreme July 13, 2009 10:34 PM PDT
Kwasiowusu, i'm a programmer
many enterprise programs and webserver applications built today still runs on the trusted windows 2000,2003.

many programmers don't see the need to change OS, other than game programmers who wants to make full use of latest directX.

Many programmers don't see XP as obsolete, and don't see it becoming obsolete for many years to come.
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by bquad July 14, 2009 7:09 AM PDT
It appears that in the rush to publish bad news about Windows 7, the bad statistics were over looked.

20,000 companies polled - 1,000 responded. That is what 5% response. Based on that 5% a conclusion is reached that 59% have no plans.

My Stats prof was proven right again. Stats lie. Stats are twisted to say what people want them to say. I for one am not comfortable with basing my decisions on such a low percentage of respondents. But some want to make a name for themselves and sensationalize a non-event. Yawn!
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by stringboy July 14, 2009 8:01 AM PDT
Everyone should wait until they add a classic UI and start treating the new OSs for what they are: upgrades. OSs are not something you upgrade for anything other than stability and new uses (64 bit). Security can be done by other means. Vista and 7 give neither.
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by DrtyDogg July 15, 2009 2:18 PM PDT
7 and Vista for that matter are 64bit with significant stability upgrades, not to mention security.
by wolivere July 14, 2009 11:39 AM PDT
Now this article leaves out a lot from the actual survey.

Important tidbits.

IE:

"41% of organizations plan a wholesale migration to Windows 7 by the end of 2010. This is actually a strong adoption rate when compared to the historical adoption rate of Windows XP in its first year which was cited as 12-14%."

Hmm that spins this whole article much differently yes?

Also

"Furthermore, in ScriptLogic?s primary market segment it is usual for businesses to upgrade operating systems piecemeal as they purchase new desktop hardware, so the fact that nearly half of organizations surveyed are planning major rollouts during 2009-2010 indicates a high acceptance of Windows 7 among small and medium businesses"

Totally different then the article?

INA I am not sure where you where going with this. In no way did the survey use the phrase "Skip"

That portion of the headline is made up. And really should be changed you are guessing or misleading with that phrase.

The closest thing in the survey to the title is.

"We have no current plans to deploy Windows 7"

That does not say skip, that says no current plans.

You headline could have read.

"The highest new OS adoption rate is predicted with 41% of business expected to embrace Windows 7 by 2010"

At least you could have pointed to a part of the Survey to back that.

Or you could have said

"59% of surveyed IT companies have no current plans to adopt Windows 7"

That you could back

But

"Survey: Many businesses plan to skip Windows 7"

There is nothing in the Survey to back that.

Really really bad reporting
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by davrosthedalek July 14, 2009 12:02 PM PDT
How many businesses will switch to Apple this year? Not many.
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by alflanagan July 14, 2009 12:50 PM PDT
Why would any business have plans to move to Windows 7 yet? Is there any compelling business need? The assumption that businesses should just hand over money to Microsoft (or anyone else) makes no sense.
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by viper396 July 15, 2009 11:32 AM PDT
This article is a clear example of misrepresenting the truth by manipulating the headline.

ZDNET did a story about the number of news outlets that chose to misrepresent this survey with their headlines and naturally CNET made the list.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=1181

CNET and Ina Fried, you should be ashamed of yourselves for resorting to this kind of tabloid style journalism. Do you get some sort of smug sense of satisfaction by misrepresenting the truth? I guess journalistic credibility doesn't matter anymore.
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by wolivere July 15, 2009 1:08 PM PDT
I am surprised this headline is still here. I am absolutely amazed at this article. It has no data to back it, and it a complete misinterpretation of the survey. The fact it has been brought to CNET's attention, and that it has not been edited is amazing.
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