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Now , WHAT law did they break ? They included their browser with their OS , they DID NOT RESTRICT USERS FROM INSTALLING OTHER BROWSERS [atleast, never happened to me!!] . And why should Microsoft take up the responsibility of letting people know that "there are other browsers out there" ?
Even I don't use IE , I use Firefox, to be honest, if people are dumb enough NOT TO KNOW THAT THEY CAN HAVE OTHER BROWSERS . It's better they need not even have internet connection :) or even a computer. Now plings, you are talking like a 5yr old boy, don't be blind folded! Read again what u wrote. Does it make any sense ? "Microsoft made IE, but they broke the law" ? Making a browser is a crime? Oh and they are NOT FORCING ANYONE TO BUY Windows , are they ?
So, by what means did they break law ?
1)They are not restricting installation of browsers
2)They are not asking you use IE [I have never seen such a *system message*]
3)They are not forcing you to by windows
4)It's their OS , they spent the money and time, they can do whatever they want with it!!
So if people like you are pissed off, don't buy their OS !?
Microsoft abused its dominance in the OS market to undermine competition in the browser market, and that is illegal. Simple as that. And that is just a quick and superficial summary which does not deal with the hidden APIs, bullying of OEMs, conscious decisions to lock people to prorprietary Windows-specific technologies on the web (thereby blocking other browsers), etc.
No, making a browser is not a crime. Please read carefully what I wrote instead of lying about what I told you.
It doesn't matter if it's their OS when they broke the law. Breaking the law should have consequences.
But the bottom line is: PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE MAKING BASELESS ASSERTIONS.
dude if the oems were bullied into not including other browsers why the hell am i seeing firefox pre-installed on several compaqs? and for the sake of this argument, why don't mozilla/google/apple go to the oems and ask them to include their browser?
please dont pull the oems up on this one, i used to work with the product managers that handle stuff like this, all the stuff u just said about bullying were all pure speculation as with many of ur other comments.
instead of saying "MS broke the law", try and be more productive next time and come up with a solution that could work to prevent "ur" apparent law breaking of MS.
ie. crime rates are high in poor countries because of lack of food/water so they steal or rob others for the basic needs. would u have international help aid the country with a) food/water and ways to help them self sustain, or b) send in troops to arrest/kill the ppl?
just hope u could be more helpful in terms of giving out ideas instead of just shouting "he broke the law!" thats what 3 year olds do
OEM bullying was one of the methods Microsoft used to kill Netscape. And no, it is not pure speculation. It was uncovered in the US antitrust case against Microsoft.
I have already explained how Microsoft can stop breaking the law and how the damage can be repaired.
Microsoft is not poor, nor desperate for food or water. The company consciously broke the law despite massive profits. Simple as that. Pure greed.
- by bnkamalesh July 9, 2009 3:11 PM PDT
- It seems like you got a lot of wikipedia done! :D If u had a little bit of knowledge on the tech side.
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- by plings July 15, 2009 1:57 PM PDT
- You are obviously deeply ignorant on the matter. Instead of ignoring everything I say, how about reading it in order to educate yourself a bit?
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Showing 2 of 2 pages (132 Comments)You won't be blabbering whatever you did :) . I didnt lie about anything, if u want u can ask other users to judge.
Oh and ur bottom line , yea true, i came to know about these law suits very recently [3-4 days]. But with ur API and stuff , dude seriously, a user with common sense in using computers would have no probs!
"conscious decisions to lock people to prorprietary Windows-specific technologies on the web (thereby blocking other browsers), etc. " <- Can u provide me an example for that ? Because most of the websites , they'd just specify "use IE7+ ,Firefox 3.x+ etc... I have never seen a website asking the user to specifically use IE. Oh, world wide web is not a small place , so , let me know :)