Comments on: Paul Allen wants to clean your Outlook in-box

The Microsoft co-founder is backing a product, Xiant Filer, that helps sort through e-mail.

[bananaphonerules]

Hi Ina,
Typo: "your Outlook in-box" not "you Outlook in-box".

[Sam Papelbon]

she just practicin her ebonics

[dcase99]

HAHAHAAHAHA you're funny........ no wait, not really

[patddymac]

Dear Word Police,

It is a grammatical error, not a typographical error.

[derilium]

Dear patddymac,

It may not be a grammatical error. It could be a virus decided to randomly remove that r...

[johnsbrn1]

It might be a good product, but everything Paul Allen touches turns to mud. It's a good thing he made so much money from Microsoft, all these failed projects/companies would bankrupt most people.

[nicmart]

It's nice that Paul insists that taxpayers pay for his sports team's stadium so that his money is free to be spent on more exciting things than just making money.

[dascha1]

Right. And does he still have the world's 6th largest yacht (not one but TWO helipads), or has it shrunk compared to the Russian entrepreneur's now?

[Understarsidream]

People still use Outlook?

[atish505]

Outlook? Email for Idiots.

[Squashman2]

topgun, Why do you feel Outlook is the only email program used at work. Outlook doesn't have a tenth of the functionality of Lotus Notes.

[BingItOn]

@Squashman2, Lotus Notes tell me about it..
I used it and I hated it. Even my IBM collegues prefer to use Outlook

[Bob Kakis]

Outlook is dying a slow death!

He should invest his money in creating a new, universal email application. Outlook is flawed. Personal users have too many storage limits, when they should not have any. The PST file is the most unstable file ever created.

Start fresh. Create an alternative to Outlook. An email program that allows users to store emails to the capacity of the hard drive, not some outdated Microsoft proprietary file format that gets corrupt after 5 GB. There are thousands of posts all over the place requesting such a feature.

[abcd9009]

not sure which version are you using. i have Outlook 2007 and the limit on Outlook 2003 onwards is 20 GB. My PST file is currently 12 GB and it's working just fine.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/830336

Bob, you must have found those thousands of posts in the Way Back Engine. Outlook has supported 20GB PSTs since 2003. FYI: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/832925/

[Bob Kakis]

i am very familiar with Microsoft's support articles. Microsoft also advises that no one should have a PST file larger than 2 GB, even in Outlook 2007

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932086/en-us

Its been widely reported that the resolution suggested in that article works for no one

See how Microsoft lies... "20 GB limit... 2 GB limit..."

Someone needs to create a new application to kill Outlook!

[patddymac]

Check out Google Wave.

Microsoft advises no such thing Bob. The resolution posted in the article says:

"To resolve this problem, install the update that is described in the following article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
933493 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933493/ ) Description of the update for Outlook 2007: April 13, 2007 "

That update is also included in Outlook 2007 SP2, so getting that will save you some time as it includes other updates as well. I have a 10GB mailbox, abcd2009 says right above he/she has a 12GB mailbox. So those are some actual sources, where are your "widely reported" and "thousands of posts" of sources?

Have you even installed this update or SP2?

[Bob Kakis]

@



Do you work for Microsoft? You are missing the point.

I just gave you a support article FROM MICROSOFT - WHERE MICROSOFT explicitly states, "Outlook 2007 PST files should be kept at 2 GB Maximum"

Why would they state that in one article and state that such PST files can handle 20 GB in another article?

They are F*ing liars! This BS is what drives millions to Apple - where they are very clear about what there hardware and software can or cannot do.

It would be great if a software company could capitalize on this with an OUTLOOK KILLER!!!

[Bob Kakis]

PS:

My main point is that people want to keep ALL of their emails on THEIR HARD DRIVE in a SINGLE FILE - no matter the size!

With today's technology, the fact that we cannot do that is a f*ing joke and shame on Microsoft and the dooshbag that invented Outlook

Cheers!

[Police_States_of_America]

pwn'd

[Vegaman_Dan]

@Bob Kakis:

It's pretty clear that the two knowledge base articles are separate of each other. If you do not have the updated patch/service pack update, then you have the lower 2Gb limit. If you have updated several years ago as the majority of the planet would have done by now for free, then that limit is 20Gb.

Lies? No. Reader misunderstanding on your part? Possibly.

I'm sorry that you feel so strongly against Outlook. There are alternatives to this that you can use happily then. Try Thunderbird, Gmail, heck- even Eudora.

The idea that users want to keep all their mail in a single file- that's a dangerous scenario in case of drive failure. I certainly do not want all my eggs in one basket. I would prefer the ability to keep it protected on different systems/drives/resources.

[Bob Kakis]

OMG... The service pack does not resolve the issue. Google it or Bing it... Sheesh... You are all Microsoft Sheep - Wake up, look around

A single file can be backed up and restored much faster than searching through archives to find just the right one and then realizing that you had the wrong date so you have to go and search again. IT people are such useless morons. They would rather give you 7 PST files to deal with instead of just one. Good luck trying to find that one email that you need.

[jessiethe3rd]

Who's using Outlook? hmm... let's see - the vast majority of companies. I swear most people must live in a flippin' bubble. Google Wave is an online solution that to this point is a long pipe dream. It's seriously funny seeing people dismiss the worlds most used email, calendaring, and contact keeper. BTW - PST files suck - long live SharePoint.

[Police_States_of_America]

same demographic as IE6 and we know how cutting edge that program is!

[kieranmullen]

Why don't they try to emulate googles human filters by using the masses as human filters?

[Mktexpress]

I'm not sure why this is news worthy. I looked at the user guide and there is nothing that revolutionary or evolutionary about this software. Most of the things you can already do in outlook without this add-on. Xonbi is a pretty good product. I don't know about Gist yet though.

[TX-Sunset]

You know, I am not sure if there are a ton of MS haters on CNET or if it is just the same idiots that travel from article to article just to interject something negative about Windows.

You people always bash and hate on MS and ask..."OMG...People are still using that?"

The fact of the matter is MS has the MAJORITY across the board on software in use. They have the most popular OSes (Like it or hate it, you still talk about it), they have the most popular Office suite and they have the most popular browser. Maybe not is your little twisted circle of friends because you have brainwashed all your family and friends into thinking MS is Satan incarnate. But without MS, we would all still be typing in DOS commands and recompiling our Kernals everytime a new driver came out...ooooo...ahhhhh....what fun. Even if it wasn't Linux, it would be the Macs. Let's see, how about we start up a Apple domain server or email server? Oh wait, there isn't one. We would all be using MacTalk on a P2P network. wow. uber.

Grow up. Join the new millenia and put your damn toys away.

[Bob Kakis]

@TX-Sunset

I want to join the new millenia - What do you use Windows on? HP, Dell? Curious...

There are 2 formats for Outlook mailboxes (same extension, .pst), the old one is limited in size but still supported, the new one can get very big. It's a pain going from one to the other (I did it)...

[raggy1222]

Please Ina right something useful for a change...