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If you like this new "feature" of Windows 7 all I can say is that I hope you enjoy paying a subscription fee for apps you could be running natively on your PC without the hassle of dealing with internet ups and downs. This is a dead and outdated concept. As far as "reclaiming disk space" that is the most ridiculous argument ever. How large are HD's these days??
RIGHT ON!!!... i donīt wanna rely exclusively on the internet just to do a a photo crop... And how do i know my vacation movie wonīt fall into the wrong hands?
If thatīs how microsoft sees the future, then iīm sticking with my xp and vista machine, and my macbook.
:-P
If you don't want to use the internet, then what would be the point of including mail in the first place?
It's not rocket science. There's plenty of options out there.
Most of this I gleaned from Windows Weekly with Paul Thurrott and Leo Laporte.
MSFT finally gets it. Don`t ever count MSFT out of it ;)
"Really, I got to know: How much does Microsoft pay you to post your drivel?"
Perhaps a few dollars more than Apple pays you for yours? Just sayin'..... pot, kettle, black.
Most of this I gleaned from Windows Weekly with Paul Thurrott and Leo Laporte.
MSFT finally gets it. Don`t ever count MSFT out of it ;)
What will this provide to Microsoft..? How about...
-A perpetual revenue stream (where Microsoft can demand virtually whatever they want from a, basically, powerless-consumer).
-Complete control to alter, or eliminate, any computer-functionality (at Microsofts, slightest, whim).
-The ability to charge "per user", "per access", "per element", etc, etc, etc. (...whatever Microsoft thinks will produce the most income for Microsoft).
-The imposition of Microsofts longtime goal of actually, successfully, removing any -hint- of actual consumer-rights, or consumer-control, over the consumers own property.
-And, the irreversible power to, literally, impose almost anything that Microsoft considers to be in Microsofts, own, best interest (with no, real, consumer-say in the matter, what-so-ever).
What will this actually do to computer-owners..? Well, this will create a...
-Loss of virtually all "ownership" rights.
-Complete dependence upon external-factors (and interests) for virtually every computer-operation, and use.
-The need to make perpetual-payments, just, for your computer to keep working.
-Loss of control of your data, and your applications.
Instead of simply stripping away the bloat, and attempting to provide a better product (a product that actually meets consumer wishes, and needs) at a better price... Microsoft is simply engaging in the same-old, tired, and unethical, behavior of deception, and manipulative-integration, of product-elements that are specifically designed to (not so subtly) PUSH consumers into exactly the, subordinate, position that Microsoft wants.
Frankly, all of this has actually been planned, discussed, and "road-mapped", by Microsoft for quite some time. "Software as a Service", and "Trusted Computing" (including "End-point to End-point" validation, and individual-user identification), have actually been in the works for literally years (...towards these very, well-defined, ends). And, Microsofts plainly-stated goal (from the very beginning of the company) has always been the manipulative-control of, and thereby, forcible revenue-extraction from, virtually the entire computer industry ("...everyone running [and paying] Microsoft"). And, with so many of Microsofts, self-created, problems finally coming home to roost... along with their latest OS doing so badly in the marketplace... I guess Microsoft really feels like their feet have truly been put to the fire.
So, I guess the next couple of years are truly going to be crunch-time, for Microsoft, consumers, and the industry (in general)...
Last I checked, Snow Leopard (OSX' next iteration) still comes with all the apps you need. Fedora Core and RHEL still come with all the apps you want and need (and lets you pick what you want and don't want at install time to boot).
There's a diff between offering and "pushing" - please learn it. :)
Just signed up to cnet to post and it assumes i get my google mail by clicking their "get you message here" link. Everything is really getting dumbed down. Maybe i get my google mail through pop3?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midori_(operating_system)
http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microsofts-midori-a-future-without-windows/
Like I said though, it's really just a rumor and nowhere near a finished concept.
However, I highly doubt we'll ever go completely back to a dumb terminal computing experience. I think we'll always be somewhere in between constantly trying to find the happy medium as technology changes. At least until some new paradigm replaces both of those completely.
I do not want the OS to do anything other than help manage my data, run the computer, and provide enough code to software developers to allow them to create software that will not crash the OS. I will buy all the software I need to do what I do. The only piece of MS software I run is MS Office 2003 Professional because, well, you almost have to use MS Office in the business world. But my personal credo is "avoid MS software at all costs". I use freeware calculators and software listed below.
Basically, the computer out of the box is nothing more than a car with an engine. Think of software as the transmission and steering wheel. Personally, I have to install over $3,000 worth of registered software to do what I do...Adobe CS3, Thumbs Plus, Pro Show Gold, MS Office 2003 Professional, 2xExplorer, Sync Back Express, WinDates, Ahead Nero v8, all of which I paid for and registered (some such as 2xExplorer and sync Back Express are freeware).
Craig Knapp
craig.knapp1@us.army.mil
Guess it's time to buy a MAC!!
I do not want the OS to do anything other than help manage my data, run the computer, and provide enough code to software developers to allow them to create software that will not crash the OS. I will buy all the software I need to do what I do. The only piece of MS software I run is MS Office 2003 Professional because, well, you almost have to use MS Office in the business world. But my personal credo is "avoid MS software at all costs". I use freeware calculators and software listed below.
Basically, the computer out of the box is nothing more than a car with an engine. Think of software as the transmission and steering wheel. Personally, I have to install over $3,000 worth of registered software to do what I do...Adobe CS3, Thumbs Plus, Pro Show Gold, MS Office 2003 Professional, 2xExplorer, Sync Back Express, WinDates, Ahead Nero v8, all of which I paid for and registered (some such as 2xExplorer and sync Back Express are freeware).
Craig Knapp
craig.knapp1@us.army.mil
Back in the day you were responsible for getting your own software and installing only what you were going to use. Seriously, why do I need windows media player when I only use winamp? Solitare? Narrator? Wordpad? IE?
Seriously folks. This is the move towards freedom on your PC. Just like in linux you will have an option to install what you're going to use.
unless I'm misreading the article where it says W7 will onyl support web apps and no open source anything.
I do not want the OS to do anything other than help manage my data, run the computer, and provide enough code to software developers to allow them to create software that will not crash the OS. I will buy all the software I need to do what I do. The only piece of MS software I run is MS Office 2003 Professional because, well, you almost have to use MS Office in the business world. But my personal credo is "avoid MS software at all costs". I use freeware calculators and software listed below.
Basically, the computer out of the box is nothing more than a car with an engine. Think of software as the transmission and steering wheel. Personally, I have to install over $3,000 worth of registered software to do what I do...Adobe CS3, Thumbs Plus, Pro Show Gold, MS Office 2003 Professional, 2xExplorer, Sync Back Express, WinDates, Ahead Nero v8, all of which I paid for and registered (some such as 2xExplorer and sync Back Express are freeware).
Craig Knapp
craig.knapp1@us.army.mil
I would however like to live long enough to so Microsoft die first....
Finally, a good idea from MS, removing software that is not very functional in the first place, really who uses Windoze Movie Makr?
Currently, my computer is just as dumb as my old IBM Selectric Typewriter was back in 1979, the OS is what should be making our computers "smarter", where is the AI we all feared in the 70s? I say bring it on!
Most of my time is spent with real programs (some are freeware, all that require registration are of course paid for) that do "things" such as: 2xExplorer-a dual pane viewer for managing data on the hard drive, Sync Back Express to simply data backup, Ahead Nero v8 for creating and editing video DVD from my digital Hard Drive Camcorder, Adobe CS3 for editing photos from my Nikon D300, Thumbs Plus by Cerious Software for sorting and managing over 30,000 of my photos on my hard drives, Pro-Show Gold for creating slide shows from digital images (automatically creates pan and scan effect and syncs images to the beat of the music automatically). MS Office Professional 2003 for creating database programs and using Switchboard Manager to automate personnel information management for Army Company sized elements, and of course MS Excel, PowerPoint, and the dreaded MS Word.
Notice that none of the above mentioned programs are part of the OS, and I do not expect the OS to provide this type of functionality, the OS should allow this type of functionality provided by software companies, to be ran seamlessly, without issues, without crashing my system. And yes, even with my quad-core, 4Gb RAM, 512Mb Radeon Video Card, I manage to lock up Vista Home Premium SP1 almost daily as I run the above mentioned software...is it the OS's fault or the fault of the software companies? I suspect Vistless is somewhat at fault for not providing enough stability and code to software developers to allow them to write software that will not crash Windoze.
The OS should not really do anything other than run the computer and manage the location of "data". The OS should help the user protect and manage the most important part of the computer, namely the users data. Data is irreplaceable in terms of man-hours spent creating it. Count up the man-hours spent scanning all your old family photos, creating and edit databases, spreadsheets, documents, etc., and it becomes obvious that the cost of a computer an software is inconsequential compared to the time invested in creating and collecting data.
An OS should help the user backup data to an external drive (including incremental backup). An OS should have a dual-pane viewer (like some old DOS programs did 10 years ago...PcTools for example, when there were few external data storage devices) to allow users to easily see and move data from all the USB drives, digital camera memory cards, portable music devices.
An OS should notice a user who opens a browser and 80 percent of the time immediately browses to C:\data or some other directory, and it should ask the user if this should be the default directory when opening the browser, instead of me having to edit the registry to accomplish this mundane task.
Craig Knapp
craig.knapp1@yahoo.com
- by ace10134 September 23, 2008 7:30 PM PDT
- Question: How do you open a picture in the new Windows 7 if it doesn't come with Windows Photo Gallery or some other picture viewer software? Currently in Vista, it opens in Photo Gallery. Take that away, and I can't view a single picture!
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- by craig.knapp1 September 24, 2008 4:30 AM PDT
- Go buy software? My favorite is Thumbs Plus by Cerious Software, for about $100 I can easily view and organinze the my collection of 30,000 photos (amateur photographer since 1977), and perform simple editing tasks such as re-sizing, cropping, and minor color/exposure adjustment. Of course Photoshop offers a viewer/sorter with full editing capability for about $600.
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- by compudoc318 September 24, 2008 9:54 AM PDT
- download free software....duh...try download.com!
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craig.knapp1@us.army.mil