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Comments on: Report: PlayStation 3 could be top-selling next-gen console by 2011

The much-maligned video game console could emerge from its doldrums in three years, but for now Nintendo's Wii looks to be the dominant machine.

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by Gunady February 14, 2008 6:02 PM PST
Hmm, I don't think that in 3 years time, there'll be only still 3 type of console games (XBOX,PS3 and WII). Who knows that Microsoft will release next gen of Xbox or Nintendo with newer WII, or even new playear by unknown brand.

But, interestingly that Xbox seems to be out of picture in 2011.
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By 2011...
by Hernys February 14, 2008 8:21 PM PST
Microsoft launched the XBox in 2001, and the 360 in 2005. If they wollow the same release rate, they should be releasing a new console by late 2009, and the third gen XBox will be in the middle of its lifecycle by 2011.
So even if Microsoft is slow in releasing the third gen XBox, the PS3 will be last gen by 2011.
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Not useless.
by ethana2 February 15, 2008 12:11 PM PST
I can use it as a desktop system. Ubuntu with pidgin, firefox3, and exaile open only needs 256MB of RAM anyway.

The 360 is useless, and the Wii is pathetic. If I will ever buy a console, it's the PS3.
www.psubuntu.com
Technology marches on...
by Blackie287 February 14, 2008 6:37 PM PST
Kind of funny...the PS3 will outdated by then..and WAY too much catching up to do in the meantime..uh uh
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really?
by this1! February 14, 2008 6:53 PM PST
need i remind you that the ps1 was supported and used all the way up until 2005?
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you good sir
by pol;0987 February 14, 2008 7:58 PM PST
are an idiot! The PS3 has a 10 year lifecycle. Unlike that of the 360
which as it was just released, has the highest failure rate of all
consoles combined, and a higher failure rate of most common
home electronics in a 3-5 year period, despite the fact that its only
been on the market for 2 yrs, so uh yeah.
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Hey, Look at me! I wrote an article saying "I was right"
by krosavcheg February 14, 2008 6:51 PM PST
yeah, that about sums it up:

Yeah, look at me . . I wrote a follow up article saying "I was right afterall"

Sony is pretty much guaranteed to come in 3rd . . but congratulations on finding someone else who agrees w/ you
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How in the world can Wii be number one!
by Dango517 February 14, 2008 7:11 PM PST
I got a first glimpse at Wii last week and the graphics on the thing were a retro shock. I haven't seen graphics like that since 1990. I guess people will do anything to get there fat kids of the couch. I might suggest a baskets ball and a lot less Wii time. :D
My money is on Xbox 360 for one reason....price. Wonder how well they'd sell for $299.00. I'm not sure the general public is ready for the game "server" yet.
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why not
by ortzinator February 14, 2008 7:17 PM PST
Because gameplay + accessibility + low price > good graphics.

Because parents are buying it for their kids because it looks like fun and not because the kids begged for it for months.
and again
by pol;0987 February 14, 2008 8:01 PM PST
fanboy, you get what you pay for - Red Ring of Death
20 to 7
by timber2005 February 14, 2008 8:24 PM PST
Twenty to Seven... in millions.

The Wii has sold 30 million units to the PS3\s seven million.

Not only is it first, but its kicking PS3's graphics right where it should.

Wii is putting the fun back into fun gaming.
Looks at his old copy of...
by gabeheim February 14, 2008 8:30 PM PST
Super mario world. Yup, looks just like the new Super Mario galaxy, like it was right from 1991.... C'mon, it's really not that bad.

Nintendo hit the nail on the head. They realized a significant portion on the market just wants a system they can have fun with. Of course, don't worry, Sony and perhaps MS will not go out of the video game business. Even if they were to suck, they could still make a comeback. Buy what you want and enjoy, these are games, not religion.
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by Agent Jake February 14, 2008 10:59 PM PST
Do you not realize that games are not all about graphics? Why do people play games? For the fun? I doubt that a game that would be indistinguishable from real to virtual but the game play would completely suck would ever succeed in selling. Don't get me wrong, 360 is great and all, but the interactivity and game play of the Wii is what draws the attention of loads of people. You just can't get the kind of game play you can from a 360 or PS3 (Even with PS3 sixaxis controllers)
Gameplay over graphics
by The_Decider February 15, 2008 3:05 PM PST
Some gamers(especially the console crowd) and most gaming companies have forgot that it is the gameplay that counts. Graphics only means something if there is a fun and compelling game behind it.

The Wii is a good reminder of that fact.

Few console games released in the past 10 years can beat most NES games, even though the graphics are better.
Are you insane, or just a little slow?
by swiggins February 14, 2008 7:36 PM PST
Okay, so the PS3 outsells the 360, ONE month out of 18 by
30,000 units, and you feel it's time to put out an article basically
saying that the PS3, "COULD" outsell the competition by 2011?
This around the same time both other companies will be putting
out NEW consoles anyway? . . . Please. I like the way the headline
is worded by the way, to cover your ass whichever way the wind
blows. If it DOES win a prize in 2011, you can say, . ."I told you
so", . . . If it stays in 3rd place you can say, "I NEVER said
WOULD, I said COULD"
Very clever, . . . how about taking a real stand friend? Stop *****
footing around it and say YES or NO, . and while your at it, come
on over and try and get my 60GB PS3 to stop freezing all the
time.
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I think its a fair article
by ttnn73 February 15, 2008 12:15 AM PST
Back in 2006, people were having such a great time bashing on the ps3. Daniel's article probably got a lot of **** from people like you so its simply his chance to say "hey, I am not the only one that felt this way" and to say that he may be totally wrong is also fair I think. Whats wrong with a writer making a prediction but also admitting she or he could be wrong?
PS3
by wolivere February 15, 2008 4:02 AM PST
Good friend of mine works at Best Buy. He tells me at least for him its easier to sell a PS3, with a 1080p TV then to sell a Blue Ray player with a 1080p TV. It is the same price or in some cases less, then a Blue Ray Player. Now that Sony is selling at such a huge discount on console, its an easy sell. For its Blue Ray features.
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you gotta read the fine print of the iSuppli report
by gerrrg February 14, 2008 7:54 PM PST
It doesn't say that the PS3 will outsell by 2011. It says that the PS3 will have the largest installed base of the three.

Their graph shows a bell curve of installed base, peaking for both the Wii and 360 in 2010. I find that odd because 360 came out much earlier than the Wii, whereas the difference in release between the Wii and PS3 is in the neighborhood of a month.

Too many questionable assumptions that go contrary to what the market is showing. Predictions are dime a dozen, and no one is ever held accountable for flawed predictions, now are they???
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oops..forgot the link.
by gerrrg February 14, 2008 7:56 PM PST
http://www.isuppli.com/news/default.asp?id=8789&m=2&y=2008

You can read it yourself.
That "red ring of death" is old news
by ewsachse February 14, 2008 8:21 PM PST
Microsoft addressed that last year. They extended the warranty for everyone's 360 to 3 years. They repaired broken units no questions asked. They redesigned the faulty hardware, and the newer units do not experience this issue.

This is like saying that the internal combustion engine backfires all the time, so don't drive a car. Newsflash, that issue was resolved years ago as well.

Sony PS3 fanbois will say anything to justify spending $600 on a console with very little games and games that are poorer to their 360 counterparts.
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Now who's being the fan boi?
by MattG75 February 15, 2008 7:28 AM PST
Even though Microsoft has upped the warranty, there are STILL reports of failing XBoxs all over the place, and people waiting long periods of time in order to get theirs fixed.

Oh and the $600 price? Please, look at your local ads. The price has dropped. Considering most people need to buy the wireless adapter to go with their 360, it actually comes out to be MORE EXPENSIVE to buy a 360 over a PS3.

And the game ratings are starting to shift. Games like Burnout Paradise were getting better reviews on the PS3 version. Considering that on most gaming sites, people are looking forward to the PS3 exclusives in 2008 more than the 360 ones, says a lot. (Without even looking for names, let's just start with Metal Gear Solid 4.)

Disclaimer: I own both a 60 PS3 and a Premium 360, having bought both on launch dates.
Unreal Story
by teachtopia February 14, 2008 8:25 PM PST
3 years from now a system -might- be #1.
Good stuff.
Who knows what technological changes there might be in three years, but don't worry because this story said that in 3 years the PS3 might be #1.

In three years we are going to have laptops sold for almost nothing (almost there now). Hi Def TV proliferation, and who know what else...

The PS3 could be irrelevant!!
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Ureal logic...
by freemarket--2008 February 15, 2008 5:57 AM PST
"Hi Def TV proliferation, and who know what else..."

"The PS3 (with Blu-Ray and 1080p HD) could be irrelevant!!"

Nice thinking there chief. You too could be president.
I could win the lottery by 2011
by gabeheim February 14, 2008 8:32 PM PST
Nuff said. The report on how it could happen goes on sale monday.
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If I'm still.....
by ebonovic February 14, 2008 8:38 PM PST
I look at this story... similar to the way I look at warranties on some of the CE devices today. If I haven't replaced it by 2011 with something else... then it probably isn't worth fixing...

If in 2011... the XBOX360, Wii, and PS3 are still the "latest" generation of gaming system... Then probably would signify that the game console days are in a recession.

3 YEARS!!!! That is just short of an eternity in the consumer electronic market.

At the end of the day.... It all boils down to one thing, IMHO. The GAMES!!!!!

The quality of the games dictate the success of the system.

All the other stuff that the systems do... there are other things that do it... and do it better for the most part.
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So what your saying is
by Astinsan February 14, 2008 8:56 PM PST
So its the game boy advanced of 2011?

I gotta tell sony something. It isn't even the price. Its the size. They see how many units they sell in the small form factor but they still insist on producing tabletop devices when we want laptop sized devices. Backwards compatibility isn't even a issue. Why don't they just build a new system and forget about backwards compatibility. Now the last part... and this is where the XBOX 360 is starting to get it right ( don't own it but have been reading and keeping track) Do we really need a disk or packaging anymore? Make a base unit with no disk drive. You can connect one via ieee1394 or usb2 if you wish to. Online service to purchase titiles would be better. It would cut a lot of piracy. It would Cut Prices.
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The Amount of Closed Mined Fanboys is Sickening
by tsukasa1288 February 14, 2008 10:35 PM PST
Almost all of these comments are either bashing Sony or the author of this article. As an owner of all three current-gen consoles, its not far fetched at all to claim that in the long run, the PS3 will become come market leader. Even looking at last month sales charts, the PS3 was in second place, only 5000 units behind the Wii, and over 40000 units ahead of the 360. The 360 will end up ageing because of the lack of HDD caching and high capacity discs, and those 3 year warranties for us early adopters are coming up soon as well, and that scares me some as I'm already on 360 #4. What I'm saying is that the PS3 shouldn't be taken so lightly. All the games I've played on it have been great, and they are only bound to get better as developers get more experience using the PS3's architecture. And theres just other things about he PS3 that make it appealing as well, like the lack of a power brink and how quiet the system is or its support to copy files to and from external devices to even the built in WiFi and free online play.

Really though, we should be happy for reports like this. More competition means better products from all ends. I'd love to see Sony quality hardware in a Microsoft product, and Microsoft quality online support with a Sony product. Everyone has there ups and downs, but if there is not one to compare it to, why fix it?
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By 2011
by gsmiller88 February 14, 2008 11:10 PM PST
Nintendo and Microsoft will have already released their next gen
consoles. 3 years is an eternity in technology.
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Nintendo yes, Microsoft, no.
by ralfthedog February 15, 2008 7:03 AM PST
Nintendo is already making money on the WII. Microsoft will need quite a bit of time to break even.
Stupid research firm!
by jaspal.m February 14, 2008 11:46 PM PST
news.com...stop getting news from this research groups...it makes your sites looks stupid too
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Confused!
by adasha76 February 15, 2008 1:33 AM PST
What am I missing here? The last I heard the Wii already has a larger user base than the X360 (since September give or take). Was that a lie? Is this a different type of 'install base'? Have I missed some crucial bit of data? Or could it be that this research firm doesn't have a clue?
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Their A chance
by knowles2 February 15, 2008 4:18 AM PST
They probably talking about Wii in America.

World wide Sony are just about kicking Xbox into third place, certainly in Japan and moving fast in Europe.

I do not see it that far of a stretch in that ps3 moving to it rightful position as number one.

But some key things will have to happen, the RROD have to keep on happening to xbox consoles.

And this is the main thing the WII lose third party games, this is likely as games made by anyone other than Nintendo are not selling well on the system they lose this support then console is probably gonna drop sale or certainly encourage their players to go out and buy a other game console.

Then come 2008 games releases, this is a other thing that might just be a turning point, they got a majority of their big hitting titles all release this year, all their major product expansion are release this year, Playtv for example. All this goes well for the console.

And their the price drop, I certainly think sony will be releasing a new price for the console, probably dropping it below 200 pounds in Britain. and probably something like 299 in the united states by the end of the year. This makes the package even more worth its money than the XBOX.

Do I think Sony will continue to support PS3 after their new console goes onto the market, hell yeah it a PR advantage for company, plus it builds a bit of loyalty know you going to find yourself with out new games to buy after a new console is release, a other reason why I am not gonna by Nintendo or Microsoft, both companies always abandon their console after new one is release. Plus Sony will kill to Final Fantasy exclusive to the console and with out that game I am not buying any other game console in the near future.
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The Detroit Lions could win the Superbowl by then too.
by lingsun February 15, 2008 5:01 AM PST
Yeah right.
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I think PS3 will be the leader and it won?t take until 2011
by ahickey February 15, 2008 5:40 AM PST
The Wii is a fun novelty and unless they can keep the novelty alive every year its sales will drop off quickly.

The Xbox360 is doing well in the States, OK in Europe and really badly in Japan. I just think as the market moves its capability in comparison with the PS3 will start to show.

The PS3 from recent reports got to 1m in the UK faster than the PS2 or the Xbox360, so on track for great things here.
With the Blu-Ray HD DVD uncertainty almost sorted the PS3 will be even more compelling. It will sell to gamers and to people who want an upgradeable Blu-Ray player that can also function as a media server. So, I expect PS3 sales to increase rapidly with the arrival of some key games this year and also as being the de facto Blu-Ray player.

I expect by the end of 2008 the momentum behind each of the consoles will be very different.
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I agree
by freemarket--2008 February 15, 2008 5:52 AM PST
Sony's long term strategy is to position the PS3 as a multi-purpose game/media system. With Blue-Ray taking the lead over HD-DVD this plan is starting to pan out.

MS may have fixed their quality problems, but it still gave them a huge black eye.
The advantage of the WII was price.
by ralfthedog February 15, 2008 7:20 AM PST
The cost of systems go down over time. The more expencive the system, the faster the drop. How many people would purchase a PS3 if it cost $200 to $250 and had many more games.

Just to make things more fun, lets start throwing in some really fun exclusives that can not be matched by the 360. Having programed on x86 and Cell, I can say that game programmers are using at best 10% of the cells capacity.

Yes, the 360 will do a slightly better job with shading. With the PS3, the AI of the game can run many continuous simulations of what the player will do. If he turns right, what is the best strategy? Oops, he turned left. bring NPC[17] north. It looks like he is getting a bit frustrated, If he dies this time, push him to the east ridge so he can see the opening....
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720
by sal-magnone February 15, 2008 7:28 AM PST
Yes, but how will it compare with the XBox 720 in 2011?
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Favorably
by camp88 February 15, 2008 9:30 AM PST
The Xbox 720 should have blu-ray, full HDTV support and an 80G
HDD by 2011.

Now that Wal-Mart has announced that it's dropping HD DVD you
can bet that MS won't be selling too many of its HD add-on drive.
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