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Comments on: America's Fortress: Cheyenne Mountain, NORAD live on

Despite the common public belief that the famous facility has closed down, and that it is one and the same as NORAD, it is fully operational and packed with critical U.S. military and defense agencies.

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by Biotico1974 June 27, 2009 6:11 AM PDT
Is this the where Stargate's Portal operates? Just kidding :)
It's an impressive facility, no doubt about that!
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by myles taylor June 28, 2009 9:26 AM PDT
Yep...it's down there. That's why you notice so much goes into the mountain and a lot doesn't come out....it's offworld. ;)
by Jive Turkey June 28, 2009 7:53 PM PDT
That also explains why an underground facility is "owned and operated by Air Force Space Command" :P
by nickbits June 27, 2009 6:13 AM PDT
that where they keep the star gate
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by jphalverson June 27, 2009 6:29 AM PDT
I worked in there for over 5 years in the Space Control Center, as both military and civilian contractor. The "wow" factor never really goes away, and it is the one job I truly wish I didn't have to leave.
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by LandMineHare June 27, 2009 6:43 AM PDT
I want a house like that.
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by skabone June 27, 2009 7:12 AM PDT
very cool! thats where the WOPR is from War Games.
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by Bill_I June 29, 2009 12:12 PM PDT
Joshua will be calling.
by applediddy June 27, 2009 8:22 AM PDT
That's awesome! Great article! Does the computer play tic-tac toe?
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by ColonelSharp June 27, 2009 8:37 AM PDT
U.S. Strategic Command, Air Force Space Command, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency and the Missile Defense Agency and...oh yeah-

you forgot Stargate Command :P
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by BFDeal June 27, 2009 8:55 AM PDT
Nice job..Too bad you couldn't get more pics.
Do you think Obama will close it down because he doesn't believe in National Security?
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by jenguevin June 27, 2009 9:47 AM PDT
In case you missed it, Daniel does have a 23-page photo gallery of his tour here: http://news.cnet.com/2300-13576_3-10001119-1.html
by flickrz June 27, 2009 12:32 PM PDT
Troll....
by Jonathan June 27, 2009 8:12 PM PDT
****. There is a difference between national security and free reign to do whatever the hell you want against American citizens. Rights? Rights? we don't need to rights. Again you are a '****.
by biffhenerson June 29, 2009 8:48 AM PDT
Obama? Lol. He will sell it to China.
by b_baggins June 30, 2009 7:25 AM PDT
@Jonathan,

Pay caps via executive order, socialized medicine (the state picks your doctor), GM-Obama via executive order, Chrysler-Obama via executive order, Bank of Obama via executive order, auto czars, bank czars, judges who "feel."

You're right. There is a difference between national security and free reign to do whatever the hell you want against American citizens.

So tell me again why you voted for the communist thug?
by ewsachse June 30, 2009 12:53 PM PDT
He actually believes in more security than the conservatives, who just hand over our rights to corporations, who in turn ship our jobs overseas.

*********!
by RRosal June 30, 2009 4:00 PM PDT
Funny how an interesting article results in political lambasting. Yeesh <shrugs>
by wsks July 6, 2009 12:29 PM PDT
Obama doesn't believe in national security? The fear, and fear mongering instilled by the GWB administration has been deep, and enduring it would seem
by SteveMcQwark June 27, 2009 9:25 AM PDT
Isn't there a recently discovered fracture in the mountain that leaves it vulnerable to attack?
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by g8crapachino June 27, 2009 11:41 PM PDT
@SteveMcQwark, yes, and I just heard that Michael Jackson is now living it up with Elvis, John Lennon, Marilyn Monroe, and JFK on a secret Carribean island getaway out of the public eye.

The power of the internet is at your fingertips.You have the ability to confirm the facts behind the imginary information people make up...err "heard" yourself.
by assman June 27, 2009 3:06 PM PDT
Well-written and interesting, quite an incredible facility. I'll go check out the photos now..
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by gilmoid June 27, 2009 4:13 PM PDT
I remember a couple of years ago watching a program on the History Channel about Cheyenne Mountain. There was a tour being given, and on one of the monitors there was an image of the Stargate chamber.
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by Francois_in_TO June 28, 2009 5:21 AM PDT
Norad is actually bi-national Canada-U.S. organization, and is accountable to both nations.
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by zmonster June 28, 2009 10:13 AM PDT
Unfortunately, NORAD is not "accountable" to the American people. They do not honor FOIA requests.
by biffhenerson June 29, 2009 8:57 AM PDT
There is nothing going on at NORAD that we dont already know. There is no need for FOIA. Thousands of people have worked there. Ask any of them. The History and Science channels have detailed programs on NORAD. What is it that you think that you need to know about NORAD?
by pablouk1 June 28, 2009 2:32 PM PDT
Where are Jake and Sam.
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by Jive Turkey June 28, 2009 7:51 PM PDT
Jack? You haven't watched that much Stargate recently have you?
by peezawaki June 28, 2009 8:09 PM PDT
And if there's no Stargate there, sure you can find Gordon Freeman.
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by gettothinking June 28, 2009 9:14 PM PDT
I am having a hard time trying to sort out just how to feel about your Cheyenne article. I'm not referring to the article itself - it is well written. I'm not referring to your reporting - it was accurate and provided alot of information in brief form. I'm talking about the fact that it is treasonous for our military to ever allow such pics and reporting of such a facility. How about, for instance, "What's more, the complex is set up to shield the interior against an electromagnetic pulse (EMP), which can fry most electronics. Cook said that, in fact, Cheyenne Mountain is the only Department of Defense-certified EMP facility in the world." ?!?!?

Perhaps you will be able to step back from this a bit, think big picture, look for truth, and realize just what you were a part of. I hope you know how much I love our country, and I hope you know how I am trying to help you. Again, doesn't it strike you as strange that ANYONE should get a "tour" of such an important part of our defense? Actually, I bet it already has crossed your mind. Maybe you will end up connecting dots with so many other heinous acts ongoing to the present.

This is not meant to sound strange or out of context - THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.

Our Founding Fathers would wonder if we really appreciate at all what they did for us. I'm afraid we have been hoodwinked by some really sick people who really do want to have global rule. And America - to the present - has for the most part stood in thier way. But that is changing in a dramatic way for the worse as we reveal our secrets, redistibute our wealth, and create crises that our all powerful & all knowing federal gov't can "solve".

Thank you for your time as you consider this perspective. May God bless you.
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by Altotus June 28, 2009 11:26 PM PDT
It is not a external threat that is significant compared to a internal. Perhaps you have made some assumptions about Cheyenne mountain because I know the the people that run the mountain would never allow a release of information that did not enhance the security of the nation. Sometimes secrecy is the enemy of our security and the existence of a reliable deterrence is a thing that enhances the security of our nation. Do not think that secrecy is the only answer or even a no brainier? To be useful the existence, and functionality of weapons must be tested and demonstrated for our enemies to respect the truth of this. This is strength. My concern is the erosion of the values of our founding fathers like truth and freedom thrown away in a hot moment for the convince of politics to allow secrecy to subvert the values of America that is weakness.
by EnemyKing June 29, 2009 1:51 AM PDT
first of all, i don't know how "treasonous" it is to allow pictures of unclassified areas. now if it had been secure locations of unauthorized material, maybe. but the fact remains, the U.S. military isn't stupid, they aren't going to allow sensitive material to be leaked to the media, or further more to our enemies.

second, saying that Cheyenne Mountain is the only Department of Defense-certified EMP facility in the world does nothing to, in anyway, harm National Security. Again, it's NON-classified information. One has to take into account that only conventional Nuclear weapons have the ability to create EMP's of a significant measure in modern warfare.

Also, just because its the only Defense Department Certified EMP facility, doesn't necessarily mean that other facilities/bases do not utilize similar countermeasures. nevertheless, your patriotism is impressive, and i want to commend you on your stoic ideals. keep the rest of us on our toes.

THAT BEING SAID,
as a resident of Colorado Springs i say this, PLEASE STOP THE AIR RAID DRILLS AT 3 AND 4 INT HE AM, IT FREAKS ME OUT EVERY TIME LOL.

P.S. the globalization of governments, new world order, illuminati...whatever you want to call it is FAR more crucial to humanity than you might think.
by anderstn June 30, 2009 2:45 PM PDT
Hello Peezawaki, All you have ever seen of Cheynne Mountain or the Old SAC HQ or Command Post was the unclassified stuff. Yep only got to eyeball the cosmetics of those to joints and you hear alot of double speak and partial truths.

If you doubt what I am saying.......think about this YOU AND ME ARE STILL ALIVE AND WE AS A NATION HAVE NEVER BEEN NUKED. YOU ARE PROTECTED BY THE MOST HIGHLY TRAINED MILITARY PERSONNEL USING THE MOST VICIOUS UP TO DATE EQUIPMENT IN THE AIR ON THE GROUND AND ON THE SEA (UNDER AS WELL).

I spent 23 years in the USAF. I worked with our other branches of military and found them to just as professional and trained equal to the USAF.

OK. we were attacked by a bunch of rag head thugs in the most cowardice of manners. If the fat bald heads in Washington D.C. would allow the military to function as the military and not stand on their necks this might not have happend..........I am sure you have had enough of my epistle .......God Bless you and your efforts....TEA
by mjd420nova June 28, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
I have no doubt that any of the photos or information released in this article is and has been available for quite a while in the public domain. The freedom of information act has allowed the release of a lot of information that was at one time classified eyes only and beyond. I'm sure that one would never get within ten miles of any secure facility unless invited and only allowed to take photos of certain things. Don't sweat the small stuff.
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by zmonster June 29, 2009 7:31 AM PDT
How many times do I need to repeat that NORAD is exempt from the FOIA act, and they do not respond to FOIA requests.

You can all pretend that your government does what's best for you, but if you like that approach you should move to Iran. Everyone else with a brain knows that secrecy always breeds abuse, and the fact that NORAD is exempt from any public scrutiny should scare any sensible American.
by biffhenerson June 29, 2009 9:00 AM PDT
Lets see how much you like the FOIA when we use it to get dirty info on the Obama administration secrets in a few years.
by viper396 June 29, 2009 11:18 AM PDT
@zmonster, Yeah, that's right, let's give every enemy and fanatic an advantage by telling them everything.

People with your paranoid assumptions about secrecy are as dangerous as those for which you are scared of.
It makes absolutely no sense to divulge all national secrets in the interest of calming your paranoia.
by sythara June 29, 2009 1:08 PM PDT
zmonster

Can you please provide a reference to your claim? Site a law, ruling, regulation, etc. If you don't, you just look like a paranoid anti-Government loon.
by artistjoh June 28, 2009 11:03 PM PDT
Why does the Space Command have to be protected so deep underground? Norad and missile defense I can understand as they obviously are to do with the delivery and defense from missiles carrying warheads and would be a first choice for attack from afar with nuclear weaponry. Norad, however seems to have moved its main facility to another location and so apparently does not think the deep underground facility to be necessary for its main command center.

Space is used merely for spying, navigation and communications which are certainly important militarily but surely don't require greater protection than Norad itself requires. I am not looking to invoke unlikely theories such as UFO's or Stargate but rather wonder if anyone has any practical suggestions as to why the Space Command is the owner and operator of the facility?
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by CaptAdventure June 29, 2009 12:29 PM PDT
"I understand missile defense but not space in Cheyenne Mountain!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Space_Command

Yeah, missile command is part of space command. So, there you go.

Also, the umbrella AFSC (job code) is "Space and Missiles" - they're one and the same career-wise.
by sythara June 29, 2009 1:09 PM PDT
It wno't be Space Command for long. And yes, in my personal opinion it should never have been AFSPC... but rather they should have kept SAC.
by eccles1214 June 29, 2009 8:13 AM PDT
Nice. I was always fascinated with this place. I guess that dates me.
But at least I am not balding . . .
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by biffhenerson June 29, 2009 9:13 AM PDT
Its obvious that they have a modern location somewhere else. That is why they are allowing tours and photographs. Its old and not the "real" site used today.
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by sythara June 29, 2009 1:11 PM PDT
lol, not true.

There are plenty of off limits areas within the complex that people don't get to see.

Just because they allow tours into the Pentagon doesen't mean they build another, even more secretive one elsewhere.
by rpen25 June 30, 2009 3:05 PM PDT
That's like saying there's another White House because there are tours through it. Just like sythara said, there are places which are forbidden to guests and others without proper security clearance. You don't think there's another West Wing somewhere in the East Wing, do ya?
by mjd420nova June 29, 2009 9:39 AM PDT
Why does anything having to do with the defense of this country have to be met with threats or concern that we do so that we can attack others and feel safe that no one can penetrate or defenses? Burying sensitive and vital facilities deep within solid rock is only sensible and responsible and not a threat to the populance in general. We all have our opinions and are free to voice them. Don't attack others opinions unless you wish to have yours attacked in return.
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