Comments on: iPhone 3G network issues frustrating early adopters

iPhone 3G users around the world are reporting problems with signal strength and quality of service on their new handsets, but no specific issues have been identified.

[netPirate]

What does this have to do with the iPhone, these complaints are about connectivity to the network, not how well the iPhone 3G works. They are also well known issues with AT&T's network and anyone that takes 5 minutes online can find out. AT&T has always had spotty coverage and dropped calls even when there was a strong signal.

[softwaredesignengineer]

Why not blame Apple for it?Sounds similar to users complaining that certain hardware didn't work with Vista. What did it have to do with Vista?

[Magicland]

The complaints are about the iphone's 3G connectivity, not AT&T's, unless they've expanded operations to the UK, Germany and Austraila. Probably the cheap Chinese sweat-shop chips that Jobs put in the iphone...

[skillingssucks]

What part of "the problem is happening in other countries" don't you understand?

[Magicland]

They're complaining about the iphone's 3G connectivity, not AT&T's, unless they've expanded service to the UK, Germany and Austrailia. Seems the iphone's 3G service sucks everywhere. Probably those cheap sweat-shop chips that Jobs put in there to keep his margins high.

[WJeansonne]

I use AT&T network for my Windows Mobile phone (BlackJack) and it works just fine. You're in denial dude. Apple shipped a defective product. Face it sucker!

[fdunn3]

There are two-sides to communicating and you seem to want to place the blame on just one without considering the other. Our Institution uses AT&T's 8100 modems for traveling laptops and they get excellent bandwidth. I have heard only one complaint of slowing and that was in a very sparse area between municipalities.

It will come down to either the selected 3G transceiver chip, it's antenna design, or both.

When you have multiple regional carriers that have customers with a wireless device and they all seem to be having the same problem then you can pretty much narrow it down to the device and NOT the carrier.

[Dhiren_Mehta]

It is the iPhone problem. I used Imate Kjam for 3 years and I had no problem of loosing network. Now everytime I enter and exit my building lift, I loose the signal to "No Service" It does not auto search and I am offline for long hours.
I never had the same problem in same area earlier!!!

Aple needs to address this otherwise I will be definately in the list of unsatisfied customer.

Dhiren Mehta, INDIA

[kevinmfb]

I'm not an iPhone 3G owner yet because Omaha, NE doesn't have a 3G network available but I do know that AT&T offers other phones that are 3G capable. I wonder if the other 3G phone manufacturers are having the same problems in the mentioned areas? For now my "old" iPhone is my trusted device...besides, the iPhone 3G is impossible to find unless you want to spend $1000's on ebay:(

[netPirate]

What does this have to do with the iPhone, these complaints are about connectivity to the network, not how well the iPhone 3G works. They are also well known issues with AT&T's network and anyone that takes 5 minutes online can find out. AT&T has always had spotty coverage and dropped calls even when there was a strong signal.

[Magicland]

They're complaining about the iphone's 3G connectivity, not AT&T's, unless they've expanded service to the UK, Germany and Austrailia. Seems the iphone's 3G service sucks everywhere. Probably those cheap sweat-shop chips that Jobs put in there to keep his margins high.

[fdunn3]

Did you miss this part of the article?
"However, the problem doesn't seem to be contained within the U.S. iPhone 3G users in the U.K., Germany, and Australia are also reporting problems with 3G connectivity in their countries, and no one seems to know what is causing the issues in those areas."

So is it really AT&T or a design issue? With evidence presented here I'd have to say it is the latter of the two

[big.mouth]

Dear fanboy,

People have done side-by-side comparisons using OTHER phones. iPhone supposedly gets worse 3G reception.

[JacksoninSRB]

There is a very large thread on Apple's support website about a problem with upgrading the original iPhone to v.2 and losing all wi-fi connections. I'm very surprised this hasn't been reported or commented upon. The link to the discussion is: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7645403&tstart=0#7645403

[bjlong80]

I love my iPhone but I am hating the service I get with AT&T! I live in the Philadelphia Metropolitan area and on my previous carrier, Verizon, I've NEVER had a signal issue with them. I go and switch to AT&T and get my iPhone and the signal is shotty and spotty at best. On their coverage map I am shown as having coverage for both 3G and EDGE and no "black holes" in my area at all, but it never fails...my phone calls are dropping left and right. It's starting to make me rethink the product and the carrier.

[fdunn3]

Did you miss this part of the article?
"However, the problem doesn't seem to be contained within the U.S. iPhone 3G users in the U.K., Germany, and Australia are also reporting problems with 3G connectivity in their countries, and no one seems to know what is causing the issues in those areas."

So is it really AT&T or a design issue? With evidence presented here I'd have to say it is the latter of the two

[stephengnb]

sorry to hear that. we have verizon here and it's great. why didn't apple decide to go with verizon?

and don't you like those commercials where they act like there are no dropped calls or black holes anywhere? ha!

[wratbatblue]

Did you say dozens of posters are complaining? That thread on the Apple site has thousands of complaints, as I recall. Mine is one of them. I have the exact problems you describe, with weak, fluctuating signals in areas where other 3G phones have no trouble. I've tried rebooting, resetting the phone (not restoring, don't want to go there yet), reseating and then replacing the SIM card (all suggestions on your sister site, among others). No dice. It's bad enough that AT&T is charging "extra money" for 3G service, and that using it drastically reduces battery life. Now it looks like reliability is questionable at best. If they don't fix it by day 29, my iPhone is GONE.

[vmsoni]

I have a 3G IPhone and I can attest that calls do drop and that service is spotty. Moreover the problem seems to be with the phone's reception and not the coverage area as my friend's Blackjack (also on ATT) has full service in the same place where I get 1 bar. ITs not a huge problem, I've only dropped a couple of calls in the last week or so.

[outlanderbz]

correct, as much as i would love to blame AT&T, this is an Apple issue. For the last year I have used an EDGE Blackberry and my wife has used the original iPhone. In that time we both came from Sprint. The phones were solid in the NW burbs of Chicago. Maybe 2-3 dropped calls between us in a year. Since we upgraded to 3G iPhones it has been nothing but dropped calls. Now, I know 3G is a different network then EDGE but the phone should still use EDGE if 3G is not available, making the cell phone call experience good. Manually turning off 3G to make a phone call is not easy and predicting when someone calls you isnt going to happen. I am hoping that this problem magically gets fixed after an update from Apple, we know they won't say anything. That is fine, they just fix it and avoid negative press. please, just fix it.

[outlanderbz]

what it has to do with the iPhone is other 3G AT&T devices work fine in these areas. I have dropped at least 2 calls a day since I got my new iPhone. The NW suburb of Chicago shows coverage but it seems as it doesn't switch to edge agressive enough like other 3G phones. In the 1 year I had my old iPhone I can only remember 1 or 2 dropped calls.

[Icon11]

Lots of 3G problems in Portland, Oregon. Supposedly full 3G coverage but no signal strength, dropped connections and calls. Switch back to EDGE and system is fine.

[fdunn3]

Did you miss this part of the article?
"However, the problem doesn't seem to be contained within the U.S. iPhone 3G users in the U.K., Germany, and Australia are also reporting problems with 3G connectivity in their countries, and no one seems to know what is causing the issues in those areas."

So is it really AT&T or a design issue? With evidence presented here I'd have to say it is the latter of the two

[gkriser]

I have contacted AT&T both by email and with their CSR's as well as requesting that a Manager call me back regarding 3G service in my home. AT&T advertises that my specific street address is within their 3G area as posted on their Web Pages. I am about 3/4 mile away from where the map states 3G service ends to the NE.
I do not receive 3G service.
In all their communications with AT&T, they are stonewalling me and not providing any assistance or relief at all except to be pleasant and say we are sorry that you are not receiving 3G service although AT&T advertises it as so.

I would like to initiate a class action lawsuit with everyone else that has this problem.

[fdunn3]

Did you miss this part of the article?
"However, the problem doesn't seem to be contained within the U.S. iPhone 3G users in the U.K., Germany, and Australia are also reporting problems with 3G connectivity in their countries, and no one seems to know what is causing the issues in those areas."

So is it really AT&T or a design issue? With evidence presented here I'd have to say it is the latter of the two

[Bobinmodesto]

I have experienced the same pitiful experience at two homes 50 miles apart--they say I had excellent 3G coverage. I tried multiple devices, and would walk down the street to dispel their blanket excuse that there must be "local interference". I got tired of looking like a prostitue wandering the neighborhoods just so I could make a phone call. I have neighbors in their 70's who actually stand on a ladder to make calls! People have posted that their Blackberry devices work fine, but are they new? My guess the software in newer models is also addicted to 3G.

[Lance Jones]

I would join in on the suit but I may return mine on day 29 if they don't admit and make consessions on the problems.

[PapiWooza]

Same issue here. I have owned blackberries and several HTC WM devices and have to say I am shocked at some of the issues I have had since using the iPhone 3G. Not only do calls repeatedly drop but the exchange email often fails to properly sync as well.

[fdunn3]

Did you miss this part of the article?
"However, the problem doesn't seem to be contained within the U.S. iPhone 3G users in the U.K., Germany, and Australia are also reporting problems with 3G connectivity in their countries, and no one seems to know what is causing the issues in those areas."

So is it really AT&T or a design issue? With evidence presented here I'd have to say it is the latter of the two

[jonbruce]

My Nokia N75 has excellent 3G coverage - in fact I'd venture to say it is *much* better than standard GSM...

[saghirmo]

I have 2 iPhone 3gs(one for my wife) and we NEVER get 4 or 5 bars throughout the metro Detroit area (outside, in the open, clear day, excellent coverage map areas, all times of the day). I usually max out at 3 and on average have 1 to 2 bars. I get a lot of "No Service". The 3g network is a joke! It is as fast as an average 1XRT(2.5g Sprint Network). Nonetheless, I still love the iphone even though it has this issue and it is absolutely FILLED with bugs (SMS lag, contacts lag, safari crashing, APPS CRASHING). They should call it iPhone Vista or iPhone ME. If you use Apps the crashes are even worse, so I just don't use apps. It's ironic that the solution to issues with new features are to not use the new features (3g doesn't work? Don't use 3g. Apps Crash like crazy? Don't use apps). But I digress. To reiterate, the iPhone 3g has terrible service. I love Apple, but some of these fanboys are insane. They would literally accept ANYTHING Apple releases with NO complaint. They attack people that complain on the boards. There is this one guy from Ann Arbor, MI that spews ridiculous lies about how great his service is. He attacks everyone that even mentions an iPhone flaw. Well, I know like 3 people with the iPhone 3g in AA and they think it sucks. I had 2 bars in all over Ann Arbor yesterday.

[fdunn3]

Did you miss this part of the article?
"However, the problem doesn't seem to be contained within the U.S. iPhone 3G users in the U.K., Germany, and Australia are also reporting problems with 3G connectivity in their countries, and no one seems to know what is causing the issues in those areas."

So is it really AT&T or a design issue? With evidence presented here I'd have to say it is the latter of the two

[dzems]

I have to agree with most of the things you are saying. The phone is glitchy and a firmware update is needed. However I live in Ann Arbor and currently have 5 bars of 3G service sitting at my desk. And I am using the iPhone to post this reply without a wireless network availible.

[jmpetersen]

I'm glad I opted for the iPod Touch, and a dumb Sprint/Sanyo telephone!

Signal acquisition and retention has got to be the number one concern for a cell phone owner. I'm no expert, but I know that an untested handset on the country's "most dissatisfied" provider is not going to be a very good experience.

And the poor users that haven't figured out there is a 3G problem - they're sitting there wondering why their battery drains in nothing flat.

[samirbhavnani]

My wife bought the iPhone in San Diego and we cannot get good or consistent 3G connection in our home. AT&T Store advised her to "turn off" the 3G in and near our house. This does seem to work, but her question is what is the use in paying so much for the AT&T data plan.

The maps AT&T has all show perfect 3G coverage not only at our home but within a several mile radius.

[fdunn3]

Did you miss this part of the article?
"However, the problem doesn't seem to be contained within the U.S. iPhone 3G users in the U.K., Germany, and Australia are also reporting problems with 3G connectivity in their countries, and no one seems to know what is causing the issues in those areas."

So is it really AT&T or a design issue? With evidence presented here I'd have to say it is the latter of the two

[onelivinglife]

Yep! Network connectivity sucks here in Austin, Texas, too. I've had numerous dropped calls and no 3G connectivity all over the city, even downtown and in the most heavy-traffic central areas of the city. It's beyond irritating and inexcusable that the service is so bad, particularly given the premium I am paying for it.

I'm for a class action suit, too! Apple and AT&T need to get their S#*! together ASAP!

[fdunn3]

Did you miss this part of the article?
"However, the problem doesn't seem to be contained within the U.S. iPhone 3G users in the U.K., Germany, and Australia are also reporting problems with 3G connectivity in their countries, and no one seems to know what is causing the issues in those areas."

So is it really AT&T or a design issue? With evidence presented here I'd have to say it is the latter of the two

[wratbatblue]

Hey, I work in Austin every day (live in Killeen). Maybe we should talk about this class action thing. I believe it's the only way Apple is going to wake up and make any effort to fix all the problems with the new iPhone. Maybe a class action will get us all some $$ back from AT&T for service not rendered, as well. Hmm.

[uscomputer]

My Att 3G Razr2 V9 never drops calls & works well in 3G mode in Miami thru West Palm & in the Tampa Bay Florida areas. My impression is that many of the reported problems may be the phone as opposed to the network.

[saghirmo]

These corporations only respond to pressure and bad press. If we continue to register our disatisfaction with the TERRIBLE 3g service then Apple and AT&T will have to address it.

[fdunn3]

Did you miss this part of the article?
"However, the problem doesn't seem to be contained within the U.S. iPhone 3G users in the U.K., Germany, and Australia are also reporting problems with 3G connectivity in their countries, and no one seems to know what is causing the issues in those areas."

So is it really AT&T or a design issue? With evidence presented here I'd have to say it is the latter of the two

[kevinmfb]

WOW!! I'm glad I kept my old iPhone. The only problem I have with mine is the screen is cracked and need a replacement phone. Hearing the complaints I don' t think I want a 3G version just yet. Here in Omaha I have never had a problem with calls dropping or poor coverage. Maybe thats the difference between the old vs the new (or we don't have any tall buildings)? Honestly, I feel for you folks having these problems and this is absolutely TERRIBLE for Apple. Hopefully these issues can get resolved soon...with the holiday season coming up this could be a total disaster for iPhone sales.

[harrys78]

I have a Samsung Sync 3G which has no problems, so it is definitely the IPHONE which has problems.

[thchildress]

I have a Samsung Sync 3G, and I am CONSTANTLY having problems at work. However...2 years ago I very RARELY had those problems because I had a Motorola Razr back then. It was fantastic, not 3G; wish I'd have kept it.