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Comments on: Dell's Web site backing away from AMD chips

Dell has reduced the number of AMD laptops it sells through its Web site, although it's still flogging a range of notebooks based on AMD's Turion chips at retail.

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Don't Blame 'em
by rdlink February 8, 2008 2:26 PM PST
I had just proclaimed today that I'm done with AMD. They make a good processor, but they don't make their own chipset, nor their own boards.

So, when I build a system with AMD I'm relegated to using some Taiwanese board, that's often poorly designed, and always poorly supported. Granted, I can get it with nVidia chipsets, which is technically owned by AMD now, but I'm tired of spending time and money on designing and building machines with AMD processors, only to have the weak link of the MoBo bring me down.

Say what you want about Intel. Their stuff works. And they support it well.
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ATI not nVidia
by clem22 February 8, 2008 4:11 PM PST
It is ATI that is owned by AMD now, not nVidia - they remain independent for now...
HP sems to be doing it too
by freddy_ace February 8, 2008 2:28 PM PST
I've been in the market for a new laptop for a few months researching my options. I noticed that HP has a LOT more AMD based notebooks through retail stores as compared to it website.
It also seems like Intel has more mobile chip offerings and a lot better marketing of it mobile chips than AMD.
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Sounds like Intel muscling-in again
by luisosio February 8, 2008 4:25 PM PST
Dell was never fair in its dealings with AMD, and it was to be expected that once it felt itself out of problems, it would return to back Intel's play for a monopoly over the market.

AMD's lawyers had better get wise to occult ploys by Intel; and market buyers to our needs which Intel could very well damn and doom. Monopoly doesn't just control goods by themselves; it controls all buyers, us, as a political dictatorship could neither manage, nor afford to do.

Haven't you realized how strategic this monopoly can become to a world dictatorship?

Unless we've lost all sense, we'd better side and fight for AMD's survival!
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Dell is right
by gggg sssss February 9, 2008 2:42 PM PST
I buy a lot of Dell computers - and have steadfastly avoided anything that smelled of AMD, even when the apparent AMD equivalent was $100 less on a $600 computer. When prices are closer, why bother? What has AMD ever done for anybody?
The muscle is in their product line
by hounddoglgs February 11, 2008 9:03 AM PST
I'm no diehard Intel fan- I've used both AMD and Intel, even tried Cyrix once. But it's pretty clear that the current crop of AMD chips can't compare to the Intel Core 2 Duos. Top it off with the fact that the AMD chips aren't that much cheaper any more. AMD needs to come up with some competitive chips quick, or their market share will continue to shrink and more retailers will back out on them.
I love AMD
by deepanjan_nag February 8, 2008 7:25 PM PST
I read this news article on my Dell Vostro 1000 laptop that runs on the AMD Turion processor. I stay in India and bought my laptop through the Dell India site 4 months ago. As a user, I must say I'm extremely satisfied with AMD, especially since its price doesn't pinch my pocket and the performance is nothing to crib about.

Since Indian consumers are very price conscious and AMD wins hands-down on a performance-per-price graph against Intel, it would be a bad move if Dell forces Indian consumers to settle only for Intel.
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Support AMD
by ronch79 February 9, 2008 6:06 AM PST
I find it crazy that some people are just 'brainwashed' to buying Intel. It's as though they don't use their heads anymore and just automatically choose Intel without thinking about the bigger picture.It's analogous to the way Americans grab all the shiny China -made products they can get their hands on, not realizing that China is sucking all their money. I'm not an American, but hey, Americans themselves have to support AMD because AMD is an American company. No surprise. They're also killing their local automakers like GM and Ford while making Toyota and Honda richer and richer. I think it's kinda stupid.

So what if you miss a few frames in Crysis? So what if you had to wait a frew more seconds to process a video? Unless you're doing this for NASA, I don't think it's gonna be the end of your business. Sure, anyone reading this comment may react and say something harsh, but let's all face it: We all need AMD. Relatively few people realize how important AMD is to the computer industry. Let's give them a break. We need to keep both Intel and AMD alive. As if you still don't realize that.

Both my desktop and laptop use AMD processors. Call me an AMD fanboy, but I do it to support AMD and everyone else who wants to buy a PC.
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Intel is American
by gggg sssss February 9, 2008 2:43 PM PST
so not sure what your point is. Now VIA is another kettle of smelly fish.
Support AMD
by ronch79 February 9, 2008 6:17 AM PST
I find it crazy that some people are just 'brainwashed' to buying Intel. It's as though they don't use their heads anymore and just automatically choose Intel without thinking about the bigger picture. It's analogous to the way Americans grab all the shiny China-made products they can get their hands on, not realizing that China is sucking all their money. I'm not an American, but hey, Americans themselves have to support their own companies, including AMD, because AMD is an American company. No surprise. They're also killing their local automakers like GM and Ford while making Toyota and Honda richer and richer. I think it's kinda stupid. They just think about their own purchase, and not the big picture.

So what if you miss a few frames in Crysis? So what if you had to wait a few more seconds to process a video? Are you that eager to finish it all up that quickly? Unless you're doing this for NASA, I don't think it's gonna be the end of your business. Sure, anyone reading this comment may react and say something harsh, but let's all face it: We all need AMD. Relatively few people realize how important AMD is to the computer industry. Let's give them a break. We need to keep both Intel and AMD alive. As if you still don't realize that.

Both my desktop and laptop use AMD processors. Now, I like AMD, but I'm disappointed in their performance lately. Also, I myself personally know some people who work for Intel and so I like Intel too. So it all kinda balances out. But I buy and recommend AMD for the sake of keeping this industry healthy. I hope we'll all do our part so that it's not just you and me who can buy a PC, but everyone else.
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Are you for real???
by pilaa February 10, 2008 6:12 PM PST
The reason we have Intel and AMD is pure unregulated competition. The best products come from the best companies that make the best products at competitive prices. IF a company does not, can not, or is not able to live up to this simple rule, then they deserve to be driven out of business so that someone else can step up to the plate and make something that can compete in the marketplace. Plain and simple, if AMD cannot keep up with INTEL than its not INTEL's problem or fault but AMD's.

I choose processors and products that get the job done at the best value for my hard earned dollar whether its AMD or INTEL and not because they are both American companies... GM and Ford better listen up!
Ok explain
by gggg sssss February 11, 2008 8:50 AM PST
how important AMD is.
Partially Agree . . .
by psychosmurf February 11, 2008 2:39 PM PST
I agree that AMD should be supported and quite frankly, I do support AMD simply because every single Intel chip I've ever used has sucked big wind. They're slow, they don't live up to their hype and quite frankly I don't support Intel's corporate environment.

However, I will disagree that people should support a company simply because it's American. That's such a bone fide load of crap I can't even start to explain how wrong it is.

GM and Ford are failing because they consistently and without fail produce the worst automobiles on the market and simply cannot compete with their foreign counterparts. I won't buy a GM, Fors OR Chrysler (for the matter) because I've owned all three plus a Honda and a Toyota. The GM I owned, literally fell apart. The Ford? It's engine blew four years after I bought it with only fifty thousand miles with a pristine service record. I was lucky to get the Chrysler started on a cold morning and it was an adventure getting to my destination without getting out and pushing. My Toyota, however, is still going strong after one hundred sixty thousand miles and my Honda? It's like a Timex . . . takes a lickin and keeps on tickin: My partner almost totaled it four years ago but we got it put back together and now we're at one hundred thirty-nine thousand miles and still running as smooth as the day we bought it.

Why do these companies produce such horrible products? That's debatable. I personally think it's because there are union's in this country that allow workers to screw off instead of getting a job done. And I can't wait for the firestorm on that comment.

My point is, you shouldn't support a company simply because they are American. Back to Ford and GM . . . where do you think most of their parts come from? It ain't Detroit. AMD also has over seas production facilities so the logic of 'support it because it's American' is a ship with many holes in its hull sinking in a very deep ocean.
Not surprised
by MadLyb February 11, 2008 9:58 AM PST
Uninformed people will buy Intel. It's the safe purchase in people's minds.

Informed people will buy the better product and right now that is Intel.

I think AMD should never have purchased ATI, it has distracted both companies from their core competencies and given both Intel and nVidia a leg up.
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